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hi GM,
Anyone who dares blame God for evil is more than brave.
It is because our loving God allows choice that evil arises.
But God will rid all of heaven and earth from all that evil.Yes, that will happen during the Millennium on this earth.
So don't you believe He is having control on this universe?Hi GM,
There are limits to what He allows because His Will overall is done.
But how or by whom it is done allows some choices.
Judgement begins at the house of God.
What of the godless?Hi GB,
You said this about our awesome God.“He as the guilty Party brings His Sacrificial Lamb (Jesus) and Pay for all Sin, Why? because he takes full responsibility for it. “
Does anyone agree with this wierd and possibly even blasphemous statement?
Turn back GB.Hi GB,
God cannot sin.
God is under no law and sin is a transgression of Law.1 John 3:9
No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.Nick……..God if God is the creator of all things then he is the responsible party for all things and it is he who atones for the sins of all of man kind and he did this through HIS offering Jesus Christ His Lamb , and it was God who said without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin, not me.
God takes full responsibility for all he allows, including mans sins.You again are falsifying what i meant by trying to say God Himself is a sinner of some kind. God takes full responsibility for all things and sin is just one of them. or How could He then forgive it, if He didn't take responsibility.
Face it Nick, you don't believe in the absolute SOVEREIGNTY of GOD. It actually turn your stomach to think God is in control of everything and responsible for everything, it shatters you self righteousness. But if you truly knew God's word you could easily see that He is responsible of all things that exist either good or evil. And he even said He created it, so tell us if he isn't responsible then who is.
And if anyone is a blasphemer against the Spirit here it you.
Hi GB,
You have reached this falsity by relying on 'human wisdom' and not what is written.
Who can reach you?Nick….. and you reach you conclusion by your human logic , if you can't see God is in control of all His creation your one screw up person.
And please stop putting words in my mouth by saying i am saying God is a Sinner. That is a blasphemous lie. And may God do to you according to your lying mouth.
Hi GB,
The Lord God is not guilty as you would say.
Ex34
6And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,7Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
1Samual.16:14 But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an EVIL spirit from the Lord troubled him.
Don't anyone tell about this scripture to Nick, he will have it cut out of his bible, blasphamy you know.
Nick….being you are trying so hard to make say God is a sinner by me using the word guilty change it to responsible for all things both what good and whats evil in this world. What i meant by saying He was guilty was He took on all the responsibility of the sins of the world and offered a sacrifice for them and that sacrifice was Jesus Christ. So quite trying to make it i am saying God is a sinner, because i am not saying that. And it evil on your part to try to make it come out that way. And i believe God the Father will give unto you as you try to give unto me. It's only just that, that happens, then you may learn not to imply things to what people are saying that are not true.
Hi,
Indeed God allows demons to test men and sent false prophets and demons.All things work together for good for those that love God and live according to His purposes.
Jesus was tested by Satan and succeeded and was comforted by the angels
God agreed with Satan that Job should be tested in Jb 1-2.
That does not make God the source of any evil.
Testing finds strength or weakness.But we are advised to pray that we are not hard tested[Mt6]
God is a fire for us
Heb12
29For our God is a consuming fire.The baptism of fire ensures no sin remains in the new creation.
Nick….i thought you believed in a literal fire that burned people up, are you now changing your position, well at least that progress.
Hi GB,
God now is a consuming fire.
Heb12
18For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,19And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
20(For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
21And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)
22But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
25See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29For our God is a consuming fire.
The lake of fire, the second death, is for the future.
if you look up the word fear you will find it means respect, we are to Love God not Fear him, For fear Has torment. and (NOTHING) is PERFECT IN FEAR, you just quoted where we are not come to that mountain to Fear as they did.
Your speaking out of the both sides of you mouth Nick. Cant you make up you mind are we to fear and Trimble as they did or are we to LOVE GOD< Make up your mind you cant have both.
Hi GB
Philippians 2:12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.Nick….working out your (OWN) Salvation with fear and trembling. Where does that say to fearing God. Paul was simply tell them in his absents to continue to be serious about there salvation process and if you would continue to read He plainly said 'for it is God who workes in you both to will and do of his good pleasure.
I noticed you conveniently left that part out and what do you do with all the other scriptures i have quoted to you do you throw them out of your bible and Just hang on to this one scripture,that fit your ideology, again it the Sum of God's word that truth. If you are to preach FEAR as a doctrine you need to have all the scripture that Deal with FEAR. not just one , If you have a eSword go and read the commentaries on the scripture you quoted you may get a better understand of it.
Do you have any Idea of the damage you do by taking things completely out of context and only quoting one sentence to try to establish a doctrine .
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 09 2008,18:49) hi GM,
Anyone who dares blame God for evil is more than brave.
It is because our loving God allows choice that evil arises.
But God will rid all of heaven and earth from all that evil.
Nick.
I have corrected you so many times in your mistaken understanding of scripture, yet you just ignore the correction as if it never happened. This is just another one, read the post correcting this error shortly after you posted this.But again, I don't expect you to. How can you live with yourself denying your false beliefs?
Blessings.
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