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Quote (thethinker @ May 14 2010,13:11) Jesus owns all things both by birthright and by purchase price. Does a man purchase something that is “loaned” to him? No! When a man purchases something it is his own property FREE AND CLEAR!
Correct.Is 1:18, where have you been?
Your the only one that conveys their thoughts logically and tightly enough that I sometimes have trouble answering their trinitarian arguments.
Quote (david @ May 14 2010,18:46) Is 1:18, where have you been? Your the only one that conveys their thoughts logically and tightly enough that I sometimes have trouble answering their trinitarian arguments.
Thanks David. I can't make much sense of what you wrote but on the surface of it it looks like a compliment! I've been around. I work hard and have 4 kids now so apologetic activities (regretfully) go on the backburner from time to time. I see you disappear for long stretches too, busy with your business?Quote (david @ May 14 2010,18:46) Is 1:18, where have you been? Your the only one that conveys their thoughts logically and tightly enough that I sometimes have trouble answering their trinitarian arguments.
Who does “their” refer to?I dont know. I'm sleepy and as you said, my sentence doesn't make sense. But it was a compliment… I think. I see your point. That is confusing.
Quote (david @ May 14 2010,19:54) I dont know. I'm sleepy and as you said, my sentence doesn't make sense. But it was a compliment… I think. I see your point. That is confusing. 
TT,
Now you are getting wierder – if that is possible.
Equality WITH and Equality AS is the same thing? Step off!
So Jesus acquires Godship and then hands it back? – God is NOT MADE, One does not Become God – that is impossible!
Jesus is Man in spirit form – “God is not Man”, I believe a scripture verse says (very aptly)Besides, Joseph is never Pharoah at any time – Jesus is never God at any time.
Pharoah is always above Joseph even though they SHARE EQUALITY WITH EACH OTHER through the One OWNING the Signet Ring and the Other Possessing, Holding, it by authority.TT, you keep going on a power trip about Jesus “OWNING US” – I have not responded to it because I think it is nonesensicle – What do you wanna know if I think “WE” are or not – What does it prove for you? What does the Scriptures say: The “WE” are at various times “owned” as you say and at other times “equal” as brothers – Heirs of God, Heirs With Christ (Heirs of christ? – where on earth or in heaven do you get that from and does it make any sense – only to you – maybe?).
I think you are in a dispute with Mikebol and want to draw me into your dispute – well that ain't gonna happen. Mike is quite capable of defending himself and you – you can continue to be frustrated from a lack of a response from me on that.
Do i think that jesus is not really – You cannot have read anything that i write – I even drew a picture but because it was perfect – you dismiss it outright – well thanks! Show me your visual interpretation of God's kingdom…
I've show me mine, now show me your!! and I'll let you into a little secret?
TT, you lack natural nurturing and are seeking to gain it back now – that is plainly obvious from your writings. Stick to the Gospels and Scriptures and you will do well – but if not – then not!
TT, I don't know what yu trying to sell me but I ain't buying. WJ has been learning your little tricks but isn't that good at it – I prayed for him the other day – in sincerity – You say I am fishing. Not sure what you mean but at least WJ is fishing for information and baiting his hook with 'false' scriptures (maybe he is hungry for knowledge – but iI hope the fish he catches are wholesome and nourishing – and having cooked and tasted the wholesome Scriptured – he will be hungry for more.
But you – TT, you are fishing with an empty hook hoping to catch the only the completely blind and unwary, then bash them over the head and them eat raw – (Now who does that remind me off, Gollum!)
I haven't seen your nasty little critters for some time cos of the technology that I use but i saw one the other day and if this is what you research, find and deem worthy to post in this site – then I can only say that they reflect your character perfectly – they are truly narsty.
Quote (thethinker @ May 13 2010,21:11) TO WJ: Tell JA that his new confession that Jesus is equal in authority with His Father is a victory for Trinitarianism and that we have influenced his thinking.
Hi JackTrue but like I said, the unambiguous truth that you have put before them is unbearable and since they don't like the light of the truth they like cockroaches start running to the darkness by posting ad-hominems and hurling nasty accusations of the flesh againt the person just like they did with Jesus, because they feel safer in having that kind of nasty dialogue rather than sticking to the points or the scriptures which exposes their nakedness and their unfruitful deeds.
It doesn't take much discernment to know they do not speak by the Spirit of God but instead through their fleshly carnal and fallen nature.
We must pray for our enemies brother for they fulfill the scriptures that speak of the blindeness of their hearts, lest their hearts would be turned to the real Jesus!
Blessings Keith
TT,
See what you have done to your brother? Even he is spewing your narsty diatribe. His words are a reflection of yours…and that ain't good.WJ, as much as there are vehement differences between us, I beg you to be Cheeky and tolerate a little hurt, allow yourself to be wronged…rather than go the way you are heading by following TT's example. You are better than that, prove it – to yourself, first…step away from him, for your own sake. By all means keep your trinity falsity, but be true to yourself in it. Maybe God will unblind your eyes (Think before you leap down my throat…think, think, think…God unblinds your eyes – is that not wonderful?)
Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 14 2010,20:17) Quote (david @ May 14 2010,19:54) I dont know. I'm sleepy and as you said, my sentence doesn't make sense. But it was a compliment… I think. I see your point. That is confusing.
Isa 1:18…………I knew you would get a kick out of that one!>Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 16 2010,02:24) Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 14 2010,20:17) Quote (david @ May 14 2010,19:54) I dont know. I'm sleepy and as you said, my sentence doesn't make sense. But it was a compliment… I think. I see your point. That is confusing.
Isa 1:18…………I knew you would get a kick out of that one!>
Yeah I was tired too. I had to read it through a couple of times to make sure I wasn't missing something. In the end I decided it was unintelligible.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2010,12:35) Hi WJ,
You should join the fellowship of brothers.
Your trinity god cannot save you.
Nick,So the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit cannot save WJ?
thinker
Hi TT,
You too have the choice of following men and their foolish doctrines or following Jesus.
he never spoke about any trinity but men love speculating.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2010,05:46) Hi TT,
You too have the choice of following men and their foolish doctrines or following Jesus.
he never spoke about any trinity but men love speculating.
Nick,What about 1 John 4:14?
14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son, the Savior of the world.
The apostles “seen” and “testify” that the Son is the Savior of the world and you say theirs was a “foolish” doctrine and that the Son cannot save WJ?
thinker
Hi TT,
Did you not know he has come to give you salvation?
Then why do you preach the words of catholicism instead of his?Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2010,05:55) Hi TT,
Did you not know he has come to give you salvation?
Then why do you preach the words of catholicism instead of his?
Nick,The Son is the Savior of the world. Yes or no.
thinker
Hi TT,
There is no other saviour given to men.
There is no other name under heaven by which we can be saved.Reject your babylonian trinities and listen to him.
TT,
Nick did not say that the Son cannot save WJ.
He said that the false doctrine of the Trinity would not save [WJ] but following Jesus would.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2010,05:59) Hi TT,
There is no other saviour given to men.
There is no other name under heaven by which we can be saved.Reject your babylonian trinities and listen to him.
You confess that the Son is the Savior of the world. Good! How is it that you say that the Son cannot save WJ?thinker
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