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Nick…..your extremism is not founded because you lack the understanding of How those people preconceived demons and devils during the time of Christ. Jodi has correctly explained the subject. Read it and conceder Her points and then check them out, before you begin jumping to extreme conclusions.
peace…………gene
Hi,
Jesus is the anointed holy one of God.
Some claim they know more than he does.
Such is the wishful vanity of the human intellectQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2007,14:54) Hi,
The messiah or Christ is not also the God Who sent him and empowered him.
First the vineyard owner sent his slave\prophets and nobody thought they were God.
Why should the beloved Son be confused with the God Whose message of salvation he brought?
Nick,I have not read the entire thread you've written,but,if God bestows His power and Word upon anyone,to a degree this makes that person God because the Father indwells him.What made Jesus”GOD”was stated in John 14:10 where Jesus said he did not speak on his own initiative,”but the Father abiding in me does His works.”
Is Jesus the creator?No
Is Jesus the All Mighty Himself?No
Is Jesus the author of the Word he spoke,or source of the deeds he did?NoBut….Jesus IS God,because the Father indwells him,works through him,and will judge through him!The Son cannot BE the Son unless the Father be part of him(as is with any father and son).
The Muslims say”Allah has no need of a son,and had no consort”This is true!But,they fail to see that is was not God who needed the Son,but we did!
Hi The One,
He cannot be our God but can be AS our God.
He manifested God among men as did his disciples.[eph 3.19]
Jesus differentiated the vessel from the glorious contents in Jn 14.1-2CO,
Christ offered to bear the burdens.
Mt11
27All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Was it only those of the Jews?
Peter said
“36Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.37Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call. “
But is he not yet your Lord?
He should beActs 10:36
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Have you not yet been called?CHRIST
In trying to prove the doctrine of TRINITY, some Trinitarians have even taken the word “Christ”, in 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 (where Paul warned the church at Corinth not to be like the children of Israel who tempted Christ) and said that JESUS pre-existed because He was “that spiritual Rock” that followed the children of Israel.
The word “Christ” in the Scriptures does not always point to the Man, Christ Jesus. This can be verified by reading Matthew 24:5 (and similar scriptural verses) where Jesus speaks about False Christs or False Anointed Ones that will come into this world. Also, there are many in this world who are called by the name 'Jesus', but there is only one who is called THE CHRIST.
The Greek word for CHRIST is CHRISTOS which means ANOINTED. God's prophets are called HOI CHRISTOI THEOU which means THE ANOINTED OF GOD. And the ANOINTING comes only from the SPIRIT (LOGOS) of God.
In Acts 2:36, Peter said “that God HATH MADE that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ”. Now, why was it necessary for God to make Jesus both Lord and Christ if Jesus had pre-existed as a Spirit called the Christ? And if Jesus had pre-existed as a separate individual Spirit (the second Person of the Godhead according to the Trinitarians) from God (the Father), would not the title Christ on a Spirit, Who was God, be a contradiction? God only anoints; He does not receive anointing. Only created beings and things receive anointing. Therefore, the Man, Jesus, received the anointing from God, His Father.
Thus, that spiritual Rock was none other than the Anointed DABAR (WORD) Which flowed from the Almighty Spirit of God to give the children of Israel their spiritual meat and drink in the wilderness. That Rock was the same Christ (Anointed Word) of which every true elect is now partaking. Of course, that Anointed Word came to Israel through the Angel (Messenger) of God who bore the Name of God. He was that WORD which led the children of Israel. He was the Face (Presence) of the Lord God.
May God bless you
AdamAdam…….. You are right saying the scriptures use of the word Christ does not always refer to Jesus Himself, as most suppose it does, but it always does refer to the anointing rather the anointing was in Jesus, Us , or any angle, it's all the one and the same Spirit of GOD. That Spirit was what was the ROCK guiding Israel in the wilderness.
Adam GOD is showing you real truth brother……………….gene
Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 21 2008,19:14) CHRIST In trying to prove the doctrine of TRINITY, some Trinitarians have even taken the word “Christ”, in 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 (where Paul warned the church at Corinth not to be like the children of Israel who tempted Christ) and said that JESUS pre-existed because He was “that spiritual Rock” that followed the children of Israel.
The word “Christ” in the Scriptures does not always point to the Man, Christ Jesus. This can be verified by reading Matthew 24:5 (and similar scriptural verses) where Jesus speaks about False Christs or False Anointed Ones that will come into this world. Also, there are many in this world who are called by the name 'Jesus', but there is only one who is called THE CHRIST.
The Greek word for CHRIST is CHRISTOS which means ANOINTED. God's prophets are called HOI CHRISTOI THEOU which means THE ANOINTED OF GOD. And the ANOINTING comes only from the SPIRIT (LOGOS) of God.
In Acts 2:36, Peter said “that God HATH MADE that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ”. Now, why was it necessary for God to make Jesus both Lord and Christ if Jesus had pre-existed as a Spirit called the Christ? And if Jesus had pre-existed as a separate individual Spirit (the second Person of the Godhead according to the Trinitarians) from God (the Father), would not the title Christ on a Spirit, Who was God, be a contradiction? God only anoints; He does not receive anointing. Only created beings and things receive anointing. Therefore, the Man, Jesus, received the anointing from God, His Father.
Thus, that spiritual Rock was none other than the Anointed DABAR (WORD) Which flowed from the Almighty Spirit of God to give the children of Israel their spiritual meat and drink in the wilderness. That Rock was the same Christ (Anointed Word) of which every true elect is now partaking. Of course, that Anointed Word came to Israel through the Angel (Messenger) of God who bore the Name of God. He was that WORD which led the children of Israel. He was the Face (Presence) of the Lord God.
May God bless you
Adam
Hi Adam:I agree with your post.
God Bless
Hi,
There are many sons of God but only one called THE SON OF GOD.
There may be many false christs but only one called THE CHRISTHi,
We were warned about false christs.Acts 20:30
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.Hi The truth,
Scripture says Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit and power and that God was with him[acts10]You say he was God in the flesh.
Would God need such an anointing?
Was God with God?Hi WJ,
Jesus was the anointed one of God.
He was anointed with the Holy Spirit and power.[acts10.38]Jesus was not God anointed by God with God
Hi TT,
You agree Jesus is the anointed one of God.
Acts 10 agrees with you.
God was with him. He was anointed by God.
No trinity there.Hi TT,
Jesus is the anointed one of God.
God anointed His Son.Of course he was not also the God Who anointed him
or PART therof.Hi,
Though we once knew Christ according to the flesh now we know him only according to the Spirit.
Now the Lord is the Spirit.
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