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Nick………Talking about the Kettle calling the Pot Black. And what makes you so sure your teaching aren't false teachings. And why do you spend so much time attacking others, I only attack those who are attacking other haven't you noticed that yet. Name one who I am attacking except you and Kerwin, and that because you both see fit to attack others anytime you want to. So if you can stay on subjects and not get personal with people I certainly can also. Give it a try brother.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………….gene
Nick……….Show me any two here that exactly agree on everything someone else says. Be hard if not impossible to fine Brother. But that no reason we shouldn't love one another anyway. IMO
love and peace………………………………….gene
Hi,
We urge all to obey the gospel and seek rebirth into the kingdom of Jesus by that door.Jn10
1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber
Nick………..WE all believe that brother, We all know it only through Christ we enter into the kingdom of GOD. Who here is trying to go in a different way? I don't know anyone who is trying to do you? Lets don't think because some disagree with you or I that means they reject Jesus in their life, that is a bad judgement call brother. IMO
love and peace to your and yours……………………………………………gene
Nick……….yes and try to really understand what He is saying (SPIRITUALLY) is also important brother.
peace………………………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 28 2008,21:01) Nick…..The servant of God do not plant
1Co 3:6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth.
1Co 3:7 So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth.Yes S,
None of us are of any importance.
But some would taint the food of scripture with their own 'spiritual' ideas.Seeking……….. Jesus and the Apostles planted the words of GOD. But Jesus said Pray that GOD would sent labors into the Harvest. He did not say send planters into the harvest but laborers, the Kingdom of God was Planted long ago by Jesus and we are considered labors of the Harvest not planters of it. For the kingdom of GOD is like a man who had a vineyard and at the time of the harvest, He went early into the market place and found people standing and told them to go and work in His vineyard, and agreed with them for a wage, and they went, and, around 9:00 am he went again and hired others and said go work in my vineyard and i will pay you what is fair, and this went on untill at 5:00 or so Pm he went and and saw more standing and said why are you standing here all day, and they said no one hires us, so he said to go and work in my vineyard and i will pay you what fair.. These last only worked for One Hour and were paid the same as those who worked all day long. And the ones who worked all day long thought they should recieve more ,but only recieved the same as the Last man Hired did. Therefore the Last shall be first and the first shall be last.
But the Point is that the Fruit was already there and they were reapers of the Harvest no planters of the vines. The harvest is still ripe but the labors few. No one need to plant for GOD has already done that, its labors He is looking for. For GOD plants His seed in the Heart and minds of People long before there reaped. This word of God is Published in all the world it does not need to be replanted. It is like Leavening and Has spread through the world. God did not call us to plant but to reap the harvest like Jesus said pray that the lord of the Harvest will send labors into the harvest. IMO
love and peace to you and yours……………………………………..gene
G,
Those who are in the Son of God are one with him and the apostles.
No division within the body but only different roles according to appointment and grace.
The seed of the Word of God still needs to be planted where the soil has been cleared and made ready.Gene,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Nick…..The servant of God do not plant the seed they cast it out into the field, but the Good soil is the soil God prepared before hand and they recieve the seed into good soil, which God has prepared (Note: casting into the field is “sowing” or a form pf planting)
Quote Seeking……….. Jesus and the Apostles planted the words of GOD. But Jesus said Pray that GOD would sent labors into the Harvest. He did not say send planters into the harvest but laborers, the Kingdom of God was Planted long ago by Jesus and we are considered labors of the Harvest not planters of it. Gene,
This is like, “first you say you do and then you say they don't.”
You tell Nick they didn't plant, they cast. Now you tell
me the planting or casting is done, the harvest is ready, we just reap.Quote This word of God is Published in all the world it does not need to be replanted. The Bible says to send sowers of the word –
Rom 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Rom 10:14 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?
Rom 10:15 And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”
Rom 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?”
Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.The seed is the word and the word needs continual planting.
Thus it is still preached and people are still sent. Spiritual things will be and need to be sown until Jesus comes.Paul was right when he said, ” 1Co 3:6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. “
It is written –
1Co 9:11 If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?
2Co 9:6 The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.
Gal 6:7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.
I will keep sowing the seed of the Kingdom which is the word of God as I do not see that He ever wants that sowing to stop as long as we are still here on earth.
Quote For GOD plants His seed in the Heart and minds of People long before there reaped. If this were God's plan for harvest and not the preaching talked about in Romans, there would be no need for this –
Quote This word of God is Published in all the world it does not need to be replanted. It is also a moot point whether publishing is planting or not.
When the Word is/was planted in a new language in a nation where the Bible did not exist, was that not “planting.” If God already wrote it on men's hearts and that was sufficient why did we ever come up with such a far fetched idea as to “publish it in all the world”?Blessings,
Seeking
Yes S,
Knowledge about Jesus is unhelpful unless that sacred seed of scripture is planted, watered and it grows. It is not all an intellectual exercise and a knowledge game.Hi ED,
Jesus Christ in heaven is the head of the body of Christ on earth.1.1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.2.Ephesians 4:15
But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:3.Ephesians 5:23
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.Hi,
Jesus is alive in the Spirit of God and loves us and will return for us.
Maranatha lord Jesus1.Matthew 26:64
Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
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2.Mark 14:62
And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.1 Corinthians 1:7
So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:11.1 Thessalonians 2:19
For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?12.1 Thessalonians 3:13
To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.13.1 Thessalonians 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.14.2 Thessalonians 2:1
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
15.2 Peter 1:16
For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.Hi,
We await his reappearance1Jn3
2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.Hi,
There is one body and it is united by the one Spirit.[1Cor 12]
The body has a head, Jesus Christ.[col1.18]We are to grow in grace by the Spirit unto the head [Eph4.11f]
Hold fast to the head till he returns[Col2.19]
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2009,11:45) Hi,
So georg believes that Jesus raised the sleeping saints in 1900 and is meeting them in the air educating them while the living saints are yet to join them. Seems an odd thought to divide the unified body of Christ for so long when they act as one. No such separate education period is described in Scripture.
I think he is deceived on this matter and it is not the first time in history that alarmists have done this.
Explain to me these scriptures, O full of wisdom one.Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Rev 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
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