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  • #352961
    terraricca
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    Quote (2besee @ Aug. 01 2013,05:53)
    Terraricca,

    Psalm

    139:7 Where could I go from your Spirit? Or where could I flee from your presence?  
    139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, you are there. If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, you are there!  

    Who is “You” in those verses?
    Is it not God?
    Yes.

    The spirit = God's presence.
    You say that the spirit (God) is NOT a person?


    what do you think the word spirit means in this verses ,to you ??? and if different , could you tell me what David here is really telling ???

    #352962
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote
    But, just for now:
    WJ made an excellent summary of points regarding the Holy Spirit.

    2bee,WJ is an trinitarian and so believe in three gods in one ,not in my bible

    #352963
    terraricca
    Participant

    2bee

    the word spirit does not always mean what we in English mean it is ,but sins you are reading the whole scriptures may be you can see this ,I do not know

    #352972
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2013,14:47)

    Quote (2besee @ Aug. 01 2013,05:53)
    Terraricca,

    Psalm

    139:7 Where could I go from your Spirit? Or where could I flee from your presence?  
    139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, you are there. If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, you are there!  

    Who is “You” in those verses?
    Is it not God?
    Yes.

    The spirit = God's presence.
    You say that the spirit (God) is NOT a person?


    what do you think the word spirit means in this verses ,to you ???   and if different , could you tell me what David here is really telling ???


    Terraricca,
    I answered that. It is in the quote.

    #352973
    2besee
    Participant

    Psalm

    139:7 Where could I go from your Spirit? Or where could I flee from your presence?
    139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, you are there. If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, you are there!

    What do YOU think that means, Terraricca?

    #352975
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2013,14:49)

    Quote
    But, just for now:
    WJ made an excellent summary of points regarding the Holy Spirit.

    2bee,WJ is an trinitarian and so believe in three gods in one ,not in my bible


    Terraricca, I only believe in one God, not three God's in one though I'm closer to trinitinarism than I am to arianism. Trinitarians can understand “spirit christology” where I have found that arianists cannot.

    #352986
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2013,09:39)
    b) GAL 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
    GAL 5:3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.

    this means that if the holy spirit is a person then we can not receive him in us because receiving someone else inside of our soul would not be LOVE but demoniacal ;LOVE is something you give NOT SOMETHING YOU RECEIVE ,and God's commandment are two I ) LOVE God with all your mind ,all your heart and all your Soul and all your strength,2) LOVE your neighbor as your selves ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Please explain what this verse means to you:
    “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as
     God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2 Cor 6:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352993
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Aug. 01 2013,10:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2013,14:49)

    Quote
    But, just for now:
    WJ made an excellent summary of points regarding the Holy Spirit.

    2bee,WJ is an trinitarian and so believe in three gods in one ,not in my bible


    Terraricca,  I only believe in one God, not three God's in one though I'm closer to trinitinarism than I am to arianism. Trinitarians can understand “spirit christology” where I have found that arianists cannot.


    2bee

    I know what you say that you believe ,but I am not anyone follower but Christ and his father ,scriptures are what is the truth ,period ,,,,,

    you are now at the beginning of your search ,and you will meet many ways, and many philosophy s ,,,many interpretation ,,,but the end result s will be what you have made yours, and upon that you will be judged by Christ ,not by any other;

    I do not say this to influence you in any way, but just be careful the road is narrow ,and full of turns and rocks ,and the door is small ,your choice will be yours alone ,

    #352994
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,14:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2013,09:39)
    b) GAL 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
    GAL 5:3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.

    this means that if the holy spirit is a person then we can not receive him in us because receiving someone else inside of our soul would not be LOVE but demoniacal ;LOVE is something you give NOT SOMETHING YOU RECEIVE ,and God's commandment are two I ) LOVE God with all your mind ,all your heart and all your Soul and all your strength,2) LOVE your neighbor as your selves ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Please explain what this verse means to you:
    “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as
     God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2 Cor 6:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

    what freedom and slavery does Paul talks about ???

    #352995

    Wow! Now I know that there are many who do not even know him! Because if they did they would know that the Spirit of Jesus lives in us.

    Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 2 Cor 13:5

    There are many scriptures that tell us God lives in us or the Spirit of Christ dwells in us, But since you guys will not deal with Jesus own words that the Holy Spirit will hear him and speak what he says, (wisdom doesn't have ears and cannot speak what another says, Mike). So how about I just give you guys one or two scriptures at a time and see how you twist or cast them off?

    Try this one on for size first.

    Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Cor 3:17

    For you Mike….

    NWT
    Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom. 2 Cor 3:17

    If the Lord is the Spirit and the Spirit lives in us then God lives in us!

    Can you see where they got the Idea that the Spirit is Lord Mike?

    WJ

    #352996
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Aug. 01 2013,10:42)
    Psalm

    139:7 Where could I go from your Spirit? Or where could I flee from your presence?
    139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, you are there. If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, you are there!

    What do YOU think that means, Terraricca?


    2bee

    tell me there I quote you the entire Psalm 139 what is it that it means ???

    Ps 139:1 O LORD, you have searched me
    and you know me.
    Ps 139:2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
    you perceive my thoughts from afar.
    Ps 139:3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
    you are familiar with all my ways.
    Ps 139:4 Before a word is on my tongue
    you know it completely, O LORD.

    Ps 139:5 You hem me in—behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Ps 139:6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

    Ps 139:7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
    Where can I flee from your presence?
    Ps 139:8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
    if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.
    Ps 139:9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
    if I settle on the far side of the sea,
    Ps 139:10 even there your hand will guide me,
    your right hand will hold me fast.

    Ps 139:11 If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me
    and the light become night around me,”
    Ps 139:12 even the darkness will not be dark to you;
    the night will shine like the day,
    for darkness is as light to you.

    Ps 139:13 For you created my inmost being;
    you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
    Ps 139:14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
    your works are wonderful,
    I know that full well.
    Ps 139:15 My frame was not hidden from you
    when I was made in the secret place.
    When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,
    Ps 139:16 your eyes saw my unformed body.
    All the days ordained for me
    were written in your book
    before one of them came to be.

    Ps 139:17 How precious to me are your thoughts, O God!
    How vast is the sum of them!
    Ps 139:18 Were I to count them,
    they would outnumber the grains of sand.
    When I awake,
    I am still with you.

    Ps 139:19 If only you would slay the wicked, O God!
    Away from me, you bloodthirsty men!
    Ps 139:20 They speak of you with evil intent;
    your adversaries misuse your name.
    Ps 139:21 Do I not hate those who hate you, O LORD,
    and abhor those who rise up against you?
    Ps 139:22 I have nothing but hatred for them;
    I count them my enemies.

    Ps 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;
    test me and know my anxious thoughts.
    Ps 139:24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
    and lead me in the way everlasting.

    so what you now think what it means ???

    #352997

    Here is what I think!

    I think it is plain as day and that only a fool would close his eyes and ears to the truth.

    Here is part of your quote…

    Ps 139:7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
    Where can I flee from your presence?
    Ps 139:8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
    if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.

    What part of “God is where his Spirit is”, that is not clear?  :)

    WJ

    #352998
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2013,00:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,14:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2013,09:39)
    b) GAL 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
    GAL 5:3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.

    this means that if the holy spirit is a person then we can not receive him in us because receiving someone else inside of our soul would not be LOVE but demoniacal ;LOVE is something you give NOT SOMETHING YOU RECEIVE ,and God's commandment are two I ) LOVE God with all your mind ,all your heart and all your Soul and all your strength,2) LOVE your neighbor as your selves ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Please explain what this verse means to you:
    “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as
     God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2 Cor 6:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

    what freedom and slavery does Paul talks about ???


    That's a dodge.

    #353001
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,20:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2013,00:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,14:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2013,09:39)
    b) GAL 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
    GAL 5:3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.

    this means that if the holy spirit is a person then we can not receive him in us because receiving someone else inside of our soul would not be LOVE but demoniacal ;LOVE is something you give NOT SOMETHING YOU RECEIVE ,and God's commandment are two I ) LOVE God with all your mind ,all your heart and all your Soul and all your strength,2) LOVE your neighbor as your selves ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Please explain what this verse means to you:
    “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as
     God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2 Cor 6:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

    what freedom and slavery does Paul talks about ???


    That's a dodge.


    edj

    Quote
    That's a dodge.

    eddy, I hate Chryslers products

    #353002
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 01 2013,20:02)
    Here is what I think!

    I think it is plain as day and that only a fool would close his eyes and ears to the truth.

    Here is part of your quote…

    Ps 139:7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
    Where can I flee from your presence?
    Ps 139:8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
    if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.

    What part of “God is where his Spirit is”, that is not clear?  :)

    WJ


    WJ

    so you do not know what you reading ,but why not reading all of 139 Psalms this should give you the answer right ???

    and what does it mean by the context “SPIRIT “???

    #353003
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2013,03:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,20:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2013,00:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,14:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2013,09:39)
    b) GAL 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
    GAL 5:3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.

    this means that if the holy spirit is a person then we can not receive him in us because receiving someone else inside of our soul would not be LOVE but demoniacal ;LOVE is something you give NOT SOMETHING YOU RECEIVE ,and God's commandment are two I ) LOVE God with all your mind ,all your heart and all your Soul and all your strength,2) LOVE your neighbor as your selves ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Please explain what this verse means to you:
    “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as
     God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2 Cor 6:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

    what freedom and slavery does Paul talks about ???


    That's a dodge.


    edj

    Quote
    That's a dodge.

    eddy, I hate Chryslers products


    Hi Pierre,

    Can you please explain your understanding of 2Cor.6:16.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #353006
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,23:00)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2013,03:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,20:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2013,00:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,14:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2013,09:39)
    b) GAL 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
    GAL 5:3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.

    this means that if the holy spirit is a person then we can not receive him in us because receiving someone else inside of our soul would not be LOVE but demoniacal ;LOVE is something you give NOT SOMETHING YOU RECEIVE ,and God's commandment are two I ) LOVE God with all your mind ,all your heart and all your Soul and all your strength,2) LOVE your neighbor as your selves ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Please explain what this verse means to you:
    “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as
     God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2 Cor 6:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

    what freedom and slavery does Paul talks about ???


    That's a dodge.


    edj

    Quote
    That's a dodge.

    eddy, I hate Chryslers products


    Hi Pierre,

    Can you please explain your understanding of 2Cor.6:16.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    2Co 6:14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?
    2Co 6:15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial ? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?
    2Co 6:16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”
    2Co 6:17 “Therefore come out from them
    and be separate,
    says the Lord.
    Touch no unclean thing,
    and I will receive you.”

    what is their to understand ??? Paul explain in many different ways to be with God not with the world ,do the things of God not of the flesh like the world does ,this he repeat many times in Gal 5;were he differentiate the two spirit in action the one of the flesh ;Gal 5:17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want.
    Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
    Gal 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
    Gal 5:20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
    Gal 5:21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God

    but Paul bring into to be like God in which our faith lays and so says this ;
    Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    Gal 5:23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
    Gal 5:24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
    Gal 5:25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
    Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

    why would he teach this ???;1Ti 3:15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

    1Ti 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
    1Ti 4:2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

    1Ti 4:7 Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly.

    1Ti 4:8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.
    1Ti 4:9 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance
    1Ti 4:10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.
    1Ti 4:11 Command and teach these things.

    the above explain it very well

    #353008
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2013,05:13)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,23:00)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2013,03:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,20:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2013,00:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 01 2013,14:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2013,09:39)
    b) GAL 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
    GAL 5:3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.

    this means that if the holy spirit is a person then we can not receive him in us because receiving someone else inside of our soul would not be LOVE but demoniacal ;LOVE is something you give NOT SOMETHING YOU RECEIVE ,and God's commandment are two I ) LOVE God with all your mind ,all your heart and all your Soul and all your strength,2) LOVE your neighbor as your selves ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Please explain what this verse means to you:
    “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as
     God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2 Cor 6:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

    what freedom and slavery does Paul talks about ???


    That's a dodge.


    edj

    Quote
    That's a dodge.

    eddy, I hate Chryslers products


    Hi Pierre,

    Can you please explain your understanding of 2Cor.6:16.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    2Co 6:14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?
    2Co 6:15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial ? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?
    2Co 6:16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”
    2Co 6:17 “Therefore come out from them
    and be separate,
    says the Lord.
    Touch no unclean thing,
    and I will receive you.”

    what is their to understand ??? Paul explain in many different ways to be with God not with the world ,do the things of God not of the flesh like the world does ,this he repeat many times in Gal 5;were he differentiate the two spirit in action the one of the flesh ;Gal 5:17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want.
    Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
    Gal 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
    Gal 5:20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
    Gal 5:21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God

    but Paul bring into to be like God in which our faith lays and so says this ;
    Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    Gal 5:23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
    Gal 5:24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
    Gal 5:25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
    Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

    why would he teach this ???;1Ti 3:15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

    1Ti 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
    1Ti 4:2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

    1Ti 4:7 Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly.

    1Ti 4:8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.
    1Ti 4:9 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance
    1Ti 4:10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.
    1Ti 4:11 Command and teach these things.

    the above explain it very well


    Hi Pierre,

    I did read the entire bible many times so YOU quoting
    the N.I.V. does not tell me what you think the verse means.

    Are you saying that God did not really mean this:
    God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them

    Or do you agree with what God said here? Could you please answer
    this question then since you refuse to explain you
    r understanding; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #353010
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ July 31 2013,04:04)
    Thank you Terraricca. Thank you Worshipping.

    And Amen Worshipping!

    Terraricca,
    I do not have the time right now to go through this properly – but I will and want to!

    Please note Worshipping's points.

    Also…….. Why do you say that I started reading the scriptures with only the deuterocanical books?
    That is not true.

    I started reading SCRIPTURE — nothing else. I had never even HEARD of the deuterocanical books – they were not in my Bible. It was only when I was handed the Jerusalem Bible that I read them. By then I had read most of scripture.

    The only thing I had NOT done was read the Bible from the beginning to end (In order) – Which I am doing now.

    Anyway – Thank you.
    This is good.
    Will get back as soon as I can.


    2bee

    Quote
    Also…….. Why do you say that I started reading the scriptures with only the deuterocanical books?
    That is not true.

    I started reading SCRIPTURE — nothing else. I had never even HEARD of the deuterocanical books – they were not in my Bible. It was only when I was handed the Jerusalem Bible that I read them. By then I had read most of scripture.

    could you show my quote were I have said this ??? I do not recall saying this ,thanks

    #353011
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2013,00:58)

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    b) GAL 5:2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
    GAL 5:3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.

    this means that if the holy spirit is a person then we can not receive him in us because receiving someone else inside of our soul would not be LOVE but demoniacal ;LOVE is something you give NOT SOMETHING YOU RECEIVE ,and God's commandment are two I ) LOVE God with all your mind ,all your heart and all your Soul and all your strength,2) LOVE your neighbor as your selves ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Please explain what this verse means to you:
    “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as
     God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2 Cor 6:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

    what freedom and slavery does Paul talks about ???


    That's a dodge.


    edj

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    That's a dodge.

    eddy, I hate Chryslers products


    Hi Pierre,

    Can you please explain your understanding of 2Cor.6:16.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    2Co 6:14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?
    2Co 6:15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial ? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?
    2Co 6:16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”
    2Co 6:17 “Therefore come out from them
    and be separate,
    says the Lord.
    Touch no unclean thing,
    and I will receive you.”

    what is their to understand ??? Paul explain in many different ways to be with God not with the world ,do the things of God not of the flesh like the world does ,this he repeat many times in Gal 5;were he differentiate the two spirit in action the one of the flesh ;Gal 5:17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want.
    Gal 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
    Gal 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
    Gal 5:20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
    Gal 5:21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God

    but Paul bring into to be like God in which our faith lays and so says this ;
    Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    Gal 5:23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
    Gal 5:24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
    Gal 5:25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
    Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

    why would he teach this ???;1Ti 3:15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

    1Ti 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
    1Ti 4:2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

    1Ti 4:7 Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly.

    1Ti 4:8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.
    1Ti 4:9 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance
    1Ti 4:10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.
    1Ti 4:11 Command and teach these things.

    the above explain it very well


    Hi Pierre,

    I did read the entire bible many times so YOU quoting
    the N.I.V. does not tell me what you think the verse means.

    Are you saying that God did not really mean this:
    God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them

    Or do you agree with what God said here? Could you please answer
    this question then since you refuse to explain your understanding; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    yes he say this ,but he does not dwell LITERALLY IN PEOPLE EITHER MEN OR ANGELS OR ANIMALS OR ROCKS OR WHAT EVER ,

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