Sword like knowledge of immanuael

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    dattaswami
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    THE ONLY LOVE

    Luke—14:26 to 27 [ Mathew :- 11:34 to 38]

    “If any one comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can not be my disciple’’.

    The knowledge is compared to a sword. Bhagavatgita says “Chhitva Jnanasinatmanah”. This means that the ignorance should be cut by the knowledge, which is like a sword. The bonds with wife or husband and children are due to ignorance. Such bonds should break when the Lord in human form competes with them to conduct His test. Lord comes in human form in every human generation to preach and give His direct presence. If the Lord comes in only one human generation, God becomes partial to that human generation because other human generations are not blessed with such opportunity.

    To see, to touch, to talk and to live with the human incarnation, He comes down as per the prayers of the devotees.  The Lord comes to preach and so He will not enter the statues or animals or birds. Veda says “Na tasya pratima asti’’ which means that God will not enter the inert statues.

    Gita says “Manusheem tanu masritam” which means that God enters the human body only because the main purpose is to preach the human beings.  Gita strongly says that he who worships the inert statues will be born as an inert stone (“Bhootani yanti”). The Christians should be commended on this point who are worshipping the Holy Jesus only, who is the most powerful human incarnation of God. Veda says “Na tat samah” which means that nobody and nothing should be equal to the Lord in human incarnation. One should leave everything and everybody for the sake of the Lord in human form. The bond with the human beings can be broken only by the bond with a new human being. Such new human being must be very powerful who can be only God in human form.

    A new bond existing with formless God or statues cannot break the human bonds. Only the bond with another living being can cut the bond with the living beings.  The bond with formless God is impossible.  The bond with inert statue has no use.  The above statements of Holy Jesus indicate that one should cut the bonds with his family and with the wealth. In Hindu religion also it is said that God (Datta) cuts all the bonds of family and wealth (“Dattam Chinnam”).   Even the bond with the body should be cut for the sake of the God.  Gita says the same thing as “Mat Gata Pranah”.  Holy Jesus says that one has to carry his own cross (death) for the sake of the Lord.  This means that one has to invite his own death with his own hands for the sake of God.  Holy Jesus did like this as an ideal example for others.  This means that you have to cut your bonds not only with your family and wealth but also with your life if necessary.  

    Hanuman, a top devotee, tore his heart with his own nails for the sake of the Lord and was blessed by the Lord to be immortal.  So when the devotee sacrifices his life, his life gets protected forever.  The essence of this gospel is that the love is proved only by the practical sacrifice.  Veda says “Dhanena Tyage nyke…” which means that sacrifice of money proves the real love.  Money is the fruit of the work.  So money is another form of work.  If it is inconvenient to sacrifice the money, at least they should sacrifice the other form of money, which is work for the sake of God.  Depending on the money all the family members are attached to you.  If money is not there all the family will leave you.  You are also giving the money to your family only.  

    Therefore if the bond with money is cut and if the money is sacrificed to God, the family bonds are considered as vanished, even though the family exists externally.  The work of God in human form is the propagation of His divine gospel.  For doing such divine work the family also stands as an obstacle because most of your energy is diverted for the family only.  Therefore you do not have any energy to work for the sake of Lord.  Hence Holy Jesus wants His disciples to leave their families for the sake of God.  The propagation work needs both money and work.    Generally every body works to maintain his family.  In the name of maintenance, several luxuries are introduced, which look like essential needs and thus there is no end for your work to earn the money for the sake of your body and your family.

    Your blindness increases and you will be putting more and more efforts to work and earn money for the sake of the family bonds.  In such a case you can never even see the human form of God.  At least you should remove your blindness by the divine knowledge if not the actual bonds.  People of very high devotion only can cut the actual bonds.  You are giving money to your family but you are giving words to God by prayers and you are giving mind to God through meditation.  You are giving love to your family through your work and money, you are calling the sacrifice of words and sacrifice of mind as love to God and you are fooling the God.  Your real love is only with your family and not with the God.  Holy Jesus tests your real love to God by these statements.   The Christian Pope and fathers and the Hindu Acharya and saints left their families and concentrated completely on the work of God.  Such pious souls can only be representatives of God in this world.  

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    ANIL ANTONY
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    #7090
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Fine theories Anil, but they are your theories and not the truth of God. They are deceptions promoted by the god of this world, Satan, who is the father of lies and the enemy of our God.
    I am sure you will find a receptive audience somewhere but we would prefer to follow Jesus.
    Thank you anyway and may our God bless you today.

    #7136
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Back to the originial scripture mentioned above, what does Jesus mean? I always thought family was important to God and that God was a God of love. I have heard folks mention the use of hyperbole to get a point across. What do you guys think?

    #7138
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Guest @ June 12 2005,15:30)
    Back to the originial scripture mentioned above, what does Jesus mean?  I always thought family was important to God and that God was a God of love.  I have heard folks mention the use of hyperbole to get a point across.  What do you guys think?


    Hi J,
    Salvation is more important than family to God. Jesus said our greatest enemies will be members of our own family. He even denied the importance of his own family in Mk 4. Why would he say these things? We must all stand alone before God eventually and God demands we do so now.It is wisdom to do so. He demands we do not listen to our fears of lonliness and isolation and contempt and our insecurities but cleave to him and his words. If we do he promises he will give us everything back we feared we may lose anyway.

    If we listen to family or culture or tradition or denomination ahead of listening and responding to the message he brings then we will follow these things and not him. But he is the source of eternal life and these other things are not. They may be a source of love and comfort now.. but not forever.

    #63695
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Guest @ June 13 2005,02:30)
    Back to the originial scripture mentioned above, what does Jesus mean?  I always thought family was important to God and that God was a God of love.  I have heard folks mention the use of hyperbole to get a point across.  What do you guys think?


    Joshua…..> read it carefully. It does not say we are to hate the persons of our Father , Mothers and ect. but there (LIVES) and our (LIVES) also. We are told to love our Father and Mother and even our enemies also, but not their lives or our lives. We are all supose to put our lives to death like Jesus did his. He was not doing HIS will but the Will of the One who sent Him.

    remember when Jesus said Rev 2:6 ,” But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which i also Hate. Notice he did not say He hated them, but there deeds, What they were doing.

    what we Hate we will reject and what we Love we will Hold on to. It's all about LOVE AND HATE . And remember where it say's ” for these loved not THEIR lives unto death.

    You can truly Hate what someone is doing and still Love them, isn't that what Our Father does with US.

    Peace to you Joshua….gene

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