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Kerwin
we must be born again of the Spirit – if we have not this new birth, then all our debating and questioning is pointless and fruitless – have you received Jesus Christ, and experienced this new birth…?
For me, I was a drunk and drug addicted criminal that despised Christianity…but, over 20 yrs ago, the Spirit got hold of me and led me into the truth – showed me the reality of Jesus Christ and my need to give over control of my life to Him… it definitely wasn’t an easy decision ..but the truth won out, and as a result I was born again of the Holy Spirit – was given a new heart, with new desires…desires for God.
You don’t have to be a bum like I was to experience Christ, but we each must receive the new birth…because, for one, we will never understand the truth of Scripture without it.
Nick, I show you the Scriptures – but you have a sight problem… or an ego problem (maybe they’re related)…
Hi davidl,
The fruit of that tree would include careful adherence to the teachings of God would it not?
Abhorrence of manmade doctrines too.
Thy word is truth
Nick,
I show you the Scriptures – but you have a sight problem… or an ego problem (maybe they’re related)…
Hi davidl,
Enough of the insults
You have not shown one verse where scripture TEACHES trinity.
But you may prefer your more popular stance that that of defending scripture.
Hi davidl,
The Holy Spirit is the author of scripture.[2peter]
But you promote what you agree is MANMADE
DavidL,
If it cannot be determined by my fruit that I have been born of the Spirit of God then I see no reason to claim it as there is no evidence to support my claim. If it can be seen then it is not necessary for me to claim it.
Even those individuals who have not yet received the Spirit in its role as Counselor can have Spiritual vision as they those that hunger and thirst for righteousness can perceives the correct meaning of parables and other mysteries and so be drawn to Jesus Christ. On the other hand those love darkness will not come into the light because they cannot understand the mysteries of God.
I have done drugs and alcohol but I became addicted to neither because their effects scared me. I am not innocent nor am I the man I was in my younger years. I have not yet reached to goal to which all Christians are challenged and that is because I am weak in faith as with faith mountains can be moved and all things are possible.
Nick,
Hi KW,
When you are led by the Spirit you do not sin.
The Spirit does not lead men to sin.
Those words are true.
Hi davidl,
If you have experienced the reality of God – great.
But the only response is that of obedience
Otherwise you just have less excuses.
You must be born again
The door is Christ – have you entered yet…?
Jesus is the way to God.
He is not the destination and the door.
He is the path/door/way yes, but the path to something.
You have to argue that Jesus is the door to himself and two others.
We disagree of course because “No man comes to the Father but by him“.
If Jesus is the only way to God, then you argue that he is the way and the God.
Confusing babble again DavidL.
“No man comes to the Father but by him”. So if he is the only way to God, then it stands to reason that God is the Father as we also read elsewhere.
“For us, there is one God the Father, and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ”.
You have to argue that Jesus is the door to himself and two others.
Because you rely on logical conclusions, you put words in my mouth that I have not said – nor is such confusion in my thoughts – this is the result of your own deceptive attempt to define what is essentially indescribable – looking to your own reasoning, instead of trusting God’s Word as it stands, to bring true understanding.
This site teaches people to distrust the Scriptures (by questioning the translators) – and to look to the teaching of men instead of the plain Word of God, and the Spirit for understanding..
This is the exact same principle that the serpent used in the garden with Eve… he brought doubt concerning what God had spoken, then suggested she should partake of the tree of knowledge to become wise..
This was the religion of the Pharisees, who taught as doctrines the precepts of men…
“There is a way that SEEMS right unto man, but its end is the way of death.”
Reason V’s Revelation..
(“..and on this rock I will build My Church..”)
..faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the
teachings of menWord of God.DavidL
This site teaches people to distrust the Scriptures (by questioning the translators) – and to look to the teaching of men instead of the plain Word of God, and the Spirit for understanding..
This statement of yours is nonsense as what do you think translators are, angels? They are human beings. The AV of the KJV was translated by 47 members of the Church of England. These men were biased in their translation, even to translating the name Passover to Easter because it occurred after Jesus’ death and resurrection. They also chose to translate Hades, Tartarus, and Gehenna all to the word Hell because that bias. In short you are putting your trust in human beings when you blindly trust translators instead of listening to God who specifically instructs us to test the spirit of what we hear.
I have yet to see one man of this time that listens to the Spirit of God. I believe they exist somewhere but what I see is those that bear the fruits of the flesh and those that bear the fruits of the Spirit.
DavidL,
The only one that translated God’s words is the serpent and Eve would have been wise to test the spirit of what he taught.
Jesus is God – doesn’t make sense until you’re born again… then you SEE that it is true.
David L,
The Bible says that YHVH is Jesus’ father and that Jesus is the Son of God.
Are you suggesting Jesus’ spirit somehow fathered himself …if not why not? … ( Jesus birthing himself ??? )
Please explain (makes sense) of your logic in regards to this obvious dilemma.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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