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- October 15, 2012 at 7:39 pm#316265DevolutionParticipant
These statistics are from 2010.
I am not sure of the accuracy nor the credibility of the information concerning the countries mentioned herein, yet I have no reason to doubt them, especially today in 2012! And escpecially since I see many of the countries mentioned within these statistics, mentioned on the news, all struggling with Muslim demands, and violence and protests and riots…nation after nation after nation!!Also, the demands of the muslims in my country have followed the stages you are about to read to a tee as well.
My country is now at the very beginnings of stage 4.
I have witnessed every stage….rapidly!!
So i am at least witness to the validity of the stages if not the countries mentioned.And the speed at which my country reached that stage would no doubt reflect likewise on the stages reached within the countries mentioned below as to how far they too have progressed through the stages….this information is for awareness purposes only.
As long as the Muslim population remains under 2% of any countries population, Muslims will portray themselves as a peace loving and tolerant minority that is in no way a threat to the host nation nor its citizens.
This is the case in countries such as: (remember: 2010 figures)Australia – 1.5%
Canada – 1.9%
China – 1.8%
Italy – 1.5%
Norway – 1.8%
United States of America – 0.6%From between 2% – 5%, they begin to convert from other minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and from violent street gangs.
This is happening in:Denmark – 2%
Germany – 3.7%
Thailand – 4.6%
United Kingdom – 2.7%From 5% onwards Muslims exercise an excessive influence in proportion to their percentage of the population, for example, they will push for the introduction of Halal food, which is clean food by Islamic standards, where the animal is slaughtered, usually tortured for amusement in the progress, in a slow and painful bloodletting, thereby securing food preparation and Muslim jobs.
They will begin forcing supermarket chains and fast food outlets etc to feature Halal on their shelves, along with threats for failure to comply.
This is occurring in:France – 8%
Philippines – 5%
Sweden – 5%
Switzerland – 4.3%
The Netherlands – 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago – 5.8%At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow themselves within their own communities, which by this stage are ghettos which are always 100% Muslim, to implement “aspects” of Sharia law.
The ultimate goal is to implement sharia over the entire world.When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris (2010) we are already seeing car burning and riots.
Any non Muslim action that offends islam, results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam and other western cities, with opposition to any cartoons, literature or films exposing islam.
Such actions are seen daily particularly in muslim sections such as in:Guyana – 10%
India – 13.4%
Israel – 16%
Kenya – 10%
Russia – 15%After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, the burning of Christian churches and Jewish Synagogues,
Such as in:Ethiopia 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare,
Such as in:Bosnia – 40%
Chad – 53%
Lebanon – 59.7%From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non believers of all other religions, including non conforming Muslims.
Sporadic ethnic cleansing, use of sharia as a weapon, and a tax placed on infidels for the “right” to not only live, but to live amongst the Muslims.
Such as in:Albania – 70%
Malaysia – 60.4%
Qatar – 77.5%
Sudan – 70%After 80%, non Muslim citizens can expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, state run ethnic cleansing and genocide until these nations drive out the infidel and move to 100% Muslim.
Such has been experienced and ongoing in countries such as:Bangladesh – 83%
Egypt – 90%
Gaza – 86.1%
Indonesia – 86.1%
Iran – 98%
Iraq – 97%
Jordan – 92%
Morocco – 98.7%
Pakistan – 97%
Palestine – 99%
Syria – 90%
Tajikistan – 90%
Turkey – 99.8%
UAE – 96%100% will usher in Dar-El-Islam, the Islamic “house of peace”.
Here there is supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim, the madrasahs are the only schools, and the Quaran the only word.
Such as in:Afghanistan – 100%
Saudi Arabia – 100%
Somalia – 100%
Yemen – 100%Unfortunately, peace is never achieved.
The most radical Muslims begin intimidating and spew hatred to satisfy thei blood lust and kill less radical Muslims for a variety of reasons.A quote from the book “The Haj” by Leon Uris:
Before I was nine, I learnt the basic canon of Arab life:
It was me against my brother
Me and my brother against our father
My family against my cousins and the clan
The clan against the tribe
The tribe against the world
And all of us against the infidel.October 16, 2012 at 12:49 am#316295bodhithartaParticipantSo what you mean to say in the last paragraph is:
Matthew 10:34-37
King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
What say you?
October 16, 2012 at 6:43 am#316323DevolutionParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 16 2012,11:49) So what you mean to say in the last paragraph is: Matthew 10:34-37
King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
What say you?
No Bod,Because the final statement in that quote i gave contradicts what Jesus is saying.
And all of us against the infidel
This is all of Muslims/Islam against the infidels…non Muslims.
Jesus was speaking of those against Him, meaning those against believers…NOT those against infidels which are non believers.
Not only that, the message is this: Muslims will always unite against infidels…
Jesus was speaking of division, division directed against believers…
so then, if that quote i gave was indeed speaking of what you posed, then the last line should have read this instead:And all of us against the believers!!
Big difference.
October 16, 2012 at 9:24 am#316333StuParticipantI agree that islam has bloody borders and is used as an excuse for members of our ape species to inflict misery on one another. Indeed the most misery inflicted is muslim on muslim by oppression and violence.
The production of halal meat is an unethical method of killing animals, just like Jewish shechita ritual slaughter, but do you have a source to back up your claim that animals are “tortured for amusement in the progress” of their slaughter?
Stuart
October 16, 2012 at 10:51 pm#316395bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Devolution @ Oct. 16 2012,17:43) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 16 2012,11:49) So what you mean to say in the last paragraph is: Matthew 10:34-37
King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
What say you?
No Bod,Because the final statement in that quote i gave contradicts what Jesus is saying.
And all of us against the infidel
This is all of Muslims/Islam against the infidels…non Muslims.
Jesus was speaking of those against Him, meaning those against believers…NOT those against infidels which are non believers.
Not only that, the message is this: Muslims will always unite against infidels…
Jesus was speaking of division, division directed against believers…
so then, if that quote i gave was indeed speaking of what you posed, then the last line should have read this instead:And all of us against the believers!!
Big difference.
Actually you are quite wrong where does Jesus say anything about believers or non believers in that quote, you know you shouldn't just make things up. Did Jesus say in that verse he came to bring peace or not?Case closed
October 16, 2012 at 10:55 pm#316397bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Stu @ Oct. 16 2012,20:24) I agree that islam has bloody borders and is used as an excuse for members of our ape species to inflict misery on one another. Indeed the most misery inflicted is muslim on muslim by oppression and violence. The production of halal meat is an unethical method of killing animals, just like Jewish shechita ritual slaughter, but do you have a source to back up your claim that animals are “tortured for amusement in the progress” of their slaughter?
Stuart
Devolution does not care about proof or evidence his entire style is based on “I don't like them so whatever you say bad about them it must be true”If you show him a passage in which Jesus tells a woman he doesn't want to help her because it is not fit to give the childrens food to dogs i.e comparing the woman to a dog, he will blame it on the woman.
October 17, 2012 at 4:46 pm#316518DevolutionParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 17 2012,09:51) Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 16 2012,17:43) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 16 2012,11:49) So what you mean to say in the last paragraph is: Matthew 10:34-37
King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
What say you?
No Bod,Because the final statement in that quote i gave contradicts what Jesus is saying.
And all of us against the infidel
This is all of Muslims/Islam against the infidels…non Muslims.
Jesus was speaking of those against Him, meaning those against believers…NOT those against infidels which are non believers.
Not only that, the message is this: Muslims will always unite against infidels…
Jesus was speaking of division, division directed against believers…
so then, if that quote i gave was indeed speaking of what you posed, then the last line should have read this instead:And all of us against the believers!!
Big difference.
Actually you are quite wrong where does Jesus say anything about believers or non believers in that quote, you know you shouldn't just make things up. Did Jesus say in that verse he came to bring peace or not?Case closed
Because “that quote” is the summed up CONTEXT of what that WHOLE chapter is speaking about!!Christ's message met by HOSTILITY!!
Even among their OWN Families!!
Just like you would in yours if you told them you are becoming a Christian!!
Because of this message, PEACE even amongst your own will be taken away IF you accept Him.
So then, Christ is speaking about CHRISTIANS!!
Did you not read the whole chapter?
It is ABOUT Christians!!
That their PREACHING will not bring PEACE…but DIVISION!!
A division that will even see them KILLED…
So that preaching comes with a SWORD of DIVISIONI am surprised you did not grasp the context leading to “that quote” which SUMMED UP the whole message of that chapter!!
I strongly suggest you read the WHOLE chapter first, then come back and see if you still think the same.
October 17, 2012 at 5:09 pm#316521DevolutionParticipantQuote (Stu @ Oct. 16 2012,20:24) I agree that islam has bloody borders and is used as an excuse for members of our ape species to inflict misery on one another. Indeed the most misery inflicted is muslim on muslim by oppression and violence. The production of halal meat is an unethical method of killing animals, just like Jewish shechita ritual slaughter, but do you have a source to back up your claim that animals are “tortured for amusement in the progress” of their slaughter?
Stuart
Hi Stu,The unclassified “Red team report” by American troops on how the Afghani's get enjoyment from torturing dogs amongst other CULTURAL obscenities. Just type in “Red team report” and go for the commentaries on it because the report itself, which you can also view, is very big.
My countries livestock trade to Indonesia was banned because of sadistic cruelty meted out to the animals that the torturers were clearly enjoying. Just type “Outrage over Australian livestock exports to Indonesia”
Look up how Saudi Arabia treats Aussie animals, cruel and sadistic.
Look up how Turks enjoy torturing animals too.
Type in “Why are Muslims so cruel to animals” and see the answer on “Ask”…
Search to see, according to all the stats by animal groups worldwide, which CULTURE is the biggest abuser of animals…Muslim cultures who have no concept of animal rights and all that that implies.
Just take the time to research it Stu, it's all there to be found.
October 17, 2012 at 5:20 pm#316522terrariccaParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 17 2012,04:55) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 16 2012,20:24) I agree that islam has bloody borders and is used as an excuse for members of our ape species to inflict misery on one another. Indeed the most misery inflicted is muslim on muslim by oppression and violence. The production of halal meat is an unethical method of killing animals, just like Jewish shechita ritual slaughter, but do you have a source to back up your claim that animals are “tortured for amusement in the progress” of their slaughter?
Stuart
Devolution does not care about proof or evidence his entire style is based on “I don't like them so whatever you say bad about them it must be true”If you show him a passage in which Jesus tells a woman he doesn't want to help her because it is not fit to give the childrens food to dogs i.e comparing the woman to a dog, he will blame it on the woman.
bodis this why Muslims treat their female gender less than a dog,
and that they can not be called innocent for the men that rape them ,and to die for not wearing their head cover ?
you are waiting just as you believe that the Muslims world will prevail and cover the globe
so you play the peace card for now,
October 17, 2012 at 5:31 pm#316523DevolutionParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 17 2012,09:55) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 16 2012,20:24) I agree that islam has bloody borders and is used as an excuse for members of our ape species to inflict misery on one another. Indeed the most misery inflicted is muslim on muslim by oppression and violence. The production of halal meat is an unethical method of killing animals, just like Jewish shechita ritual slaughter, but do you have a source to back up your claim that animals are “tortured for amusement in the progress” of their slaughter?
Stuart
Devolution does not care about proof or evidence his entire style is based on “I don't like them so whatever you say bad about them it must be true”If you show him a passage in which Jesus tells a woman he doesn't want to help her because it is not fit to give the childrens food to dogs i.e comparing the woman to a dog, he will blame it on the woman.
Bod,Quote If you show him a passage in which Jesus tells a woman he doesn't want to help her because it is not fit to give the childrens food to dogs i.e comparing the woman to a dog, he will blame it on the woman. BLAME is NOT possible within the context of the message.
October 17, 2012 at 6:43 pm#316527terrariccaParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 17 2012,04:55) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 16 2012,20:24) I agree that islam has bloody borders and is used as an excuse for members of our ape species to inflict misery on one another. Indeed the most misery inflicted is muslim on muslim by oppression and violence. The production of halal meat is an unethical method of killing animals, just like Jewish shechita ritual slaughter, but do you have a source to back up your claim that animals are “tortured for amusement in the progress” of their slaughter?
Stuart
Devolution does not care about proof or evidence his entire style is based on “I don't like them so whatever you say bad about them it must be true”If you show him a passage in which Jesus tells a woman he doesn't want to help her because it is not fit to give the childrens food to dogs i.e comparing the woman to a dog, he will blame it on the woman.
bodQuote If you show him a passage in which Jesus tells a woman he doesn't want to help her because it is not fit to give the childrens food to dogs i.e comparing the woman to a dog, he will blame it on the woman. do you understand what the discussion was all about between Jesus and the gentile women
i think you know but the truth is not what you are after ,it his Islam predominance in the world that his your baby
October 18, 2012 at 1:48 am#316540journey42ParticipantMatthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Revelation 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.Matthew 11:6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be HATED of ALL MEN for MY NAMES SAKE: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be HATED of ALL NATIONS for MY NAMES SAKE.
Luke 19:14 But his citizens HATED HIM, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
John 15:18 If the world HATE YOU, ye know that it HATED ME..before it HATED YOU.
John 15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and HATED BOTH ME and MY FATHER.
John 15:25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE.
John 17:14 I have given them..thy word; and the world HATH HATED THEM, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
October 18, 2012 at 5:44 am#316560StuParticipantQuote (Devolution @ Oct. 18 2012,04:09) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 16 2012,20:24) I agree that islam has bloody borders and is used as an excuse for members of our ape species to inflict misery on one another. Indeed the most misery inflicted is muslim on muslim by oppression and violence. The production of halal meat is an unethical method of killing animals, just like Jewish shechita ritual slaughter, but do you have a source to back up your claim that animals are “tortured for amusement in the progress” of their slaughter?
Stuart
Hi Stu,The unclassified “Red team report” by American troops on how the Afghani's get enjoyment from torturing dogs amongst other CULTURAL obscenities. Just type in “Red team report” and go for the commentaries on it because the report itself, which you can also view, is very big.
My countries livestock trade to Indonesia was banned because of sadistic cruelty meted out to the animals that the torturers were clearly enjoying. Just type “Outrage over Australian livestock exports to Indonesia”
Look up how Saudi Arabia treats Aussie animals, cruel and sadistic.
Look up how Turks enjoy torturing animals too.
Type in “Why are Muslims so cruel to animals” and see the answer on “Ask”…
Search to see, according to all the stats by animal groups worldwide, which CULTURE is the biggest abuser of animals…Muslim cultures who have no concept of animal rights and all that that implies.
Just take the time to research it Stu, it's all there to be found.
So, in other words, no you can't.Stuart
October 18, 2012 at 6:37 am#316570journey42ParticipantQuote (Stu @ Oct. 18 2012,16:44) Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 18 2012,04:09) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 16 2012,20:24) I agree that islam has bloody borders and is used as an excuse for members of our ape species to inflict misery on one another. Indeed the most misery inflicted is muslim on muslim by oppression and violence. The production of halal meat is an unethical method of killing animals, just like Jewish shechita ritual slaughter, but do you have a source to back up your claim that animals are “tortured for amusement in the progress” of their slaughter?
Stuart
Hi Stu,The unclassified “Red team report” by American troops on how the Afghani's get enjoyment from torturing dogs amongst other CULTURAL obscenities. Just type in “Red team report” and go for the commentaries on it because the report itself, which you can also view, is very big.
My countries livestock trade to Indonesia was banned because of sadistic cruelty meted out to the animals that the torturers were clearly enjoying. Just type “Outrage over Australian livestock exports to Indonesia”
Look up how Saudi Arabia treats Aussie animals, cruel and sadistic.
Look up how Turks enjoy torturing animals too.
Type in “Why are Muslims so cruel to animals” and see the answer on “Ask”…
Search to see, according to all the stats by animal groups worldwide, which CULTURE is the biggest abuser of animals…Muslim cultures who have no concept of animal rights and all that that implies.
Just take the time to research it Stu, it's all there to be found.
So, in other words, no you can't.Stuart
I think he means look it up yourself.October 18, 2012 at 6:56 am#316571StuParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Oct. 18 2012,17:37) So, in other words, no you can't. Stuart[/quote]
I think he means look it up yourself.
Did you read my question to him, and his reply?Stuart
October 18, 2012 at 10:12 pm#316677bodhithartaParticipantQuote (Devolution @ Oct. 18 2012,04:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 17 2012,09:55) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 16 2012,20:24) I agree that islam has bloody borders and is used as an excuse for members of our ape species to inflict misery on one another. Indeed the most misery inflicted is muslim on muslim by oppression and violence. The production of halal meat is an unethical method of killing animals, just like Jewish shechita ritual slaughter, but do you have a source to back up your claim that animals are “tortured for amusement in the progress” of their slaughter?
Stuart
Devolution does not care about proof or evidence his entire style is based on “I don't like them so whatever you say bad about them it must be true”If you show him a passage in which Jesus tells a woman he doesn't want to help her because it is not fit to give the childrens food to dogs i.e comparing the woman to a dog, he will blame it on the woman.
Bod,Quote If you show him a passage in which Jesus tells a woman he doesn't want to help her because it is not fit to give the childrens food to dogs i.e comparing the woman to a dog, he will blame it on the woman. BLAME is NOT possible within the context of the message.
Really? Jesus made a comment she appealed to his HIGHER nature and he repented and did what she asked.October 18, 2012 at 10:53 pm#316680mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Devolution @ Oct. 15 2012,13:39) The most radical Muslims begin intimidating and spew hatred to satisfy thei blood lust and kill less radical Muslims for a variety of reasons.
It seems to me that the above comment sums up your entire opening post, Devo.Apparently, as with ANY group of people, there are antagonists, and the victims of those antagonists.
I really enjoy many of the things you post here, but it is all too often that you play the role of a hate mongerer, distancing yourself from various groups like Jehovah's Witnesses and Muslims, while spewing hate for those groups of people.
Love your enemies, Devo. Return abuse with love, and in doing so you will heap burning coals upon their heads.
(Note: I am very rarely capable of doing this myself, and so this is not judgment from me, but a reminder to us all.)
October 18, 2012 at 11:26 pm#316685terrariccaParticipantI love my enemies providing I know them ,I will always be ready to help them to see truth ,but I do not want to help Satan culture and those who practice that culture willingly ,knowing what they support ,
I believe that when Christ says to LOVE YOUR ENEMIES HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST GODS WORD(SCRIPTURES) WHAT IN YOUR HEART YOU BELIEVE ,ANY OTHER ENEMY YOU CAN ONLY FORGIVE HIM FOR WHAT HE DOES TO YOU ,or give their judgement to God ,
now any one that not take the word of God seriously put himself against it ,John 3;true believers can not love that person for what he does but only for what he his A CREATION OF GOD ,and that to me needs to be respected ,if he sees or not this is in the hands of God not ours,so if this person comes back to you for info on Gods word you can give it to him as it is written ,until the time that the written word make him change his ways .
October 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm#316931mikeboll64BlockedQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2012,17:26) I believe that when Christ says to LOVE YOUR ENEMIES HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST GODS WORD(SCRIPTURES)
And do you consider Muslims to be “against God's word”? If so, Jesus told you to love them.Hate the sin, not the sinner, right?
October 21, 2012 at 6:16 am#317020DevolutionParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2012,09:53) Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 15 2012,13:39) The most radical Muslims begin intimidating and spew hatred to satisfy thei blood lust and kill less radical Muslims for a variety of reasons.
It seems to me that the above comment sums up your entire opening post, Devo.Apparently, as with ANY group of people, there are antagonists, and the victims of those antagonists.
I really enjoy many of the things you post here, but it is all too often that you play the role of a hate mongerer, distancing yourself from various groups like Jehovah's Witnesses and Muslims, while spewing hate for those groups of people.
Love your enemies, Devo. Return abuse with love, and in doing so you will heap burning coals upon their heads.
(Note: I am very rarely capable of doing this myself, and so this is not judgment from me, but a reminder to us all.)
Hi Mike,Thanks Mike, ill take that on board, you're absolutely right.
Cheers.
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