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    kerwin
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    Quote (jammin @ May 28 2013,04:40)

    Quote (kerwin @ May 27 2013,16:11)

    Quote (jammin @ May 27 2013,10:55)

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2013,10:43)

    Christ never said the words, “I am not God”.  But neither did Michael, Gabriel, Samuel, David, Satan, or anyone else in the entire scriptures.  

    Are all those people “God” just because they never explicitly said, “I am not God”?  Of course not.


    michael, gabriel etc.

    those characters are not GOD. we know that bec the bible said that.
    michael is an angel
    gabriel is an angel


    But you believe Jesus is the “angel of the LORD” who went before the Israelites in a pillar of cloud and fire, right?

    So if you believe Michael and Gabriel are not God BECAUSE they are angels……. and you believe Jesus is also an angel, there must be some wires getting crossed somewhere.

    jammin, I agree with the premise of your argument, ie: if they are angels OF God, then they can't actually BE God.

    I just don't understand why you change the rules when it comes to that angel of God named Jesus.


    can you read in the bible that michael and gabriel are GOD?
    you cant read that boy.

    but we can read in the bible that CHRIST IS GOD.
    angel means messenger so there is nothing wrong with that.

    that does not mean that he is not GOD BY NATURE.

    he is like his father. he is GOD>

    they are both GOD>


    Jammin,

    Paul is called a god by the people of Melita,  Acts 28:6.


    god and not God.

    Christ is God and not god.


    Jammin,

    Translators do the capitalizing.  Koine Greek is caseless. god and God is the same thing with translator bias and context determine which to use in English.


    are you saying that you are better than those translators??

    why dont you make your own bible. make your bible all small letters LOL


    Jammin,

    The evidence is those translators are not carried along by the Spirit because line upon line, word upon word their doctrine does not support itself. I don't even trust myself. God is the one I trust in.

    #345934
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ May 29 2013,14:18)

    Quote (jammin @ May 28 2013,04:40)

    Quote (kerwin @ May 27 2013,16:11)

    Quote (jammin @ May 27 2013,10:55)

    Quote (kerwin @ May 27 2013,15:29)

    Quote (jammin @ May 27 2013,05:45)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2013,11:51)

    Quote (jammin @ May 21 2013,23:11)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2013,10:43)

    Christ never said the words, “I am not God”.  But neither did Michael, Gabriel, Samuel, David, Satan, or anyone else in the entire scriptures.  

    Are all those people “God” just because they never explicitly said, “I am not God”?  Of course not.


    michael, gabriel etc.

    those characters are not GOD. we know that bec the bible said that.
    michael is an angel
    gabriel is an angel


    But you believe Jesus is the “angel of the LORD” who went before the Israelites in a pillar of cloud and fire, right?

    So if you believe Michael and Gabriel are not God BECAUSE they are angels……. and you believe Jesus is also an angel, there must be some wires getting crossed somewhere.

    jammin, I agree with the premise of your argument, ie: if they are angels OF God, then they can't actually BE God.

    I just don't understand why you change the rules when it comes to that angel of God named Jesus.


    can you read in the bible that michael and gabriel are GOD?
    you cant read that boy.

    but we can read in the bible that CHRIST IS GOD.
    angel means messenger so there is nothing wrong with that.

    that does not mean that he is not GOD BY NATURE.

    he is like his father. he is GOD>

    they are both GOD>


    Jammin,

    Paul is called a god by the people of Melita,  Acts 28:6.


    god and not God.

    Christ is God and not god.


    Jammin,

    Translators do the capitalizing.  Koine Greek is caseless. god and God is the same thing with translator bias and context determine which to use in English.


    are you saying that you are better than those translators??

    why dont you make your own bible. make your bible all small letters LOL


    Jammin,

    The evidence is those translators are not carried along by the Spirit because line upon line, word upon word their doctrine does not support itself. I don't even trust myself. God is the one I trust in.


    oh i see. so it is better to listen to storyteller like you than to read the bible?

    non sense boy.

    make your own book

    #345935
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2013,13:52)
    jammin,

    So your whole theory rests on a capital “G” that English translators put in the scriptures?   ???

    This is what you've said, in effect:

    Angels OF God can't actually BE God, unless they are called “God” with a “G” that was capped by the Trinitarian translator.  As long as that “G” is capped, then that particular angel OF God CAN be the God he is the angel OF.

    Is that really your “support”, jammin?   ???

    I think it's time you and I parted ways.  Your posts are 99% mind-numbing absurdity.  I'm getting the feeling that I'm throwing pearls to swine here.


    give me verse that michael and gabriel can be worshipped.

    you talk non sense. do you think before you talk?

    #345936
    jammin
    Participant

    mike,

    do not compare gabriel , michael or any person you like to christ.

    he is the ONLY son of God. he has the form of GOD. he came from heaven.christians worshipped him.
    he is God just like his father.

    do you understand that?

    #346194
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Jammin………if you worship Jesus as a God , or even worship him at all, you are committing IDOLATRY, whether you believe it or not boy. Jesus even said why call me good , there is only one that is good, and that is GOD. he wasn't  saying he was that God that was the ONLY good ONE either boy.  IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours………………………gene

    #346239
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 03 2013,01:21)
    Jammin………if you worship Jesus as a God , or even worship him at all, you are committing IDOLATRY, whether you believe it or not boy. Jesus even said why call me good , there is only one that is good, and that is GOD. he wasn't  saying he was that God that was the ONLY good ONE either boy.  IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours………………………gene


    did jesus said , why worship me?
    christians worship jesus and the bible said that/

    cant you read that in your bible?

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