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- November 13, 2008 at 7:42 pm#111824NickHassanParticipant
Hi,
All creation awaits their revelation.Romans 8:19
For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.How are they sons?
Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.Are all reborn led by God's Spirit?
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:Do all who receive him respond to the grace given to become sons?
1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.The revelation of the sons.
Many make dangerous assumptions that their rebirth automatically leads to their becoming sons of God. Many are sadly stillborn.
The sons of God are led and moulded by their cooperation with the grace of God unto His service. Our choice is involved at every little death, every step on the way and we work out our salvation in fear and trembling.
Staking out intellectual ground and claiming superior knowledge is vanity and uselessness.
November 13, 2008 at 8:30 pm#111825TessParticipantI was wondering if everyone here believes that God loves all created persons. Could you explain why or why not? I'm sorry if this is the wrong place for this question. Thankyou. God bless.
November 13, 2008 at 8:34 pm#111826NickHassanParticipantHi and welcome Tess,
Yes.
He proved it.
Jn3
14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
So now we have to respond to that love.
November 13, 2008 at 8:35 pm#111827NickHassanParticipantHi Tess,
It is essential to respond.
Jn3
36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.November 13, 2008 at 8:44 pm#111828TessParticipantWhat about those who do not know He loves them? I am asking sincerely and not to cause arguements or trouble.
November 13, 2008 at 8:56 pm#111829NickHassanParticipantHi Tess,
God has said he will be merciful-to the merciful.
He is love.November 13, 2008 at 9:03 pm#111830TessParticipantI believe He is, but what about those who are not merciful because they have not been shown love and mercy? Thankyou for responding.
November 13, 2008 at 9:06 pm#111832NickHassanParticipantHi Tess,
God is judge.
We should leave others to Him.
We should concentrate on seeking first the kingdom.November 16, 2008 at 3:36 am#111917epistemaniacParticipantQuote (Tess @ Nov. 14 2008,07:30) I was wondering if everyone here believes that God loves all created persons. Could you explain why or why not? I'm sorry if this is the wrong place for this question. Thankyou. God bless.
its hard for me to imagine God loving those whom He has already thrown into Hell, as well as all those who will someday be in Hell….blessings,
KenNovember 16, 2008 at 3:42 am#111919NickHassanParticipantHi E,
By Hell do you mean Hades?
Hades is just a waiting place and it will be thrown into the lake of fire.[rev20, lk16]The lake of fire is yet to be brought into action.
November 18, 2008 at 12:42 am#112129NickHassanParticipantHi,
So we do not discover we are saved in Christ by reading the bible.
Such is the foolish universalist gospel of the carnal minds of men.October 31, 2009 at 8:59 pm#154514NickHassanParticipantHi,
A major misunderstanding of salvation is lack of attention to Jn 1.12
Presumption of salvation by simply entering the door of Christ [Jn10] by water and the Spirit[Jn3] should be shattered when you read of the bridesmaids in Mt25Jn1.12
“But as many as received him, to them he gave the RIGHT TO BECOME children of God..”Rebirth from above gives you enough oil to begin the walk but not enough to let your lamp be alight when Jesus returns.
Ask, Seek Knock. Walk while the light is with you.
Add to what you have or what you have will not be enough.
Those who still just still have what they were given[1 talent-the earnest of the Spirit] will have it taken away[Mt25]
Work out your salvation in fear and trembling.You have been given the power to BECOME sons of God but you are not sons till you are led by the Spirit because the sons of God are LED BY the Spirit of God[Rom8]
May 28, 2010 at 3:13 am#192537NickHassanParticipantHi,
The sons of God are the ones who are led by the Spirit of God.[Rom8]
So to be a son you must be reborn from above by that Spirit.[Jn3]
Jesus was anointed of that Spirit at the Jordan and led [Lk4.1]That rebirth gives us hope as the Son we follow was raised from death.[1Peter 1.3]
He is the firstborn from the dead [Rev1.5]and we share now that hope[Rom6.4]
As he was raised so we to will be raised to be kings and priests.[Heb4, Rev20]May 29, 2010 at 3:07 pm#192767GeneBalthropParticipantNIck……….It is interesting how you push GOD out of the Salvation process and try to make it a MANS WORK. Giving GOD just a little of the credit and then turn it back to the MAN. You don't come out a say it , but aren't you really saying that a mans salvation is from himself. IMO
peace and love……………….gene
May 29, 2010 at 9:56 pm#192851NickHassanParticipantHi,
All creation awaits the revelation of the sons of God.
Carnal men meanwhile waste time exalting their own thoughts.June 10, 2010 at 10:43 pm#195063NickHassanParticipantHi ,
To be sons and daughters of God and siblings to Jesus you must be reborn from above as Jesus was.
This promise of God is accessible still to those who have repented and obeyed.[Acts 2.39]May 14, 2012 at 11:09 pm#298061NickHassanParticipantHi,
There is a crowd around the doorway arguing about this and that.
Few enter.June 21, 2012 at 9:02 pm#303462NickHassanParticipantHi,
At rebirth we are GIVEN THE POWER TO BECOME sons of God[jn1]
No room for crowing just yet.As Wakeup says feed on Christ Jesus
March 22, 2014 at 3:25 am#374460NickHassanParticipantHi,
Sons and daughters of God are in the plan of God.
Check yourselves and check your teaching.The sons of God are LED BY the Spirit of God.Rom8
Knowledge is not enough
March 22, 2014 at 8:40 pm#374577kerwinParticipantNick,
As far as I know no one says knowledge alone is enough. It is certainly not written in Scripture.
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