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All claiming that the Word of God is a creature, what is that creatures name?
Some say his name is Micha’el, some say not micha’el the angel but another Micha’el.
This is confusion; not to be accepted as truth. Just groping in the dark, and will fall in the pit.
The WORD OF GOD, before he was made flesh had no name but CALLED THE WORD. In the beginning was the WORD.(not a name).
All things were made by the WORD; not a name.HE WAS CALLED JESUS WHEN HE WAS MADE FLESH. He had no name BEFORE HE was made flesh;
and also after He was taken up to heaven. But called THE LAMB OF GOD. (still not a name).
When HE spoke to Moses; HE introduced HIM self as I AM THAT I AM.(not a name).He will come again, not as JESUS; but as THE WORD OF GOD, (still not a name).
He will sit on the throne of God as the LAMB OF GOD. Still not a name. Because it is not for some to know who He really is.
The scripture says that all things were created for God’s own pleasure;
and another scripture says that all things were made for JESUS THE SON OF GOD??
This is a great mystery that can not be understood by many. God said; there is non beside ME, and there is no saviour beside ME.
Anyone given the answer will understand, he that is not given the answer will not understand.
There is no need to make up stories to force the answer, because it will not be the true answer.
Only the SON can give the true answer. We need to feed on the food that does not perish, and HE will give the answer.
John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Shalom.
wakeup.wup
HE WAS CALLED JESUS WHEN HE WAS MADE FLESH. He had no name BEFORE HE was made flesh;
and also after He was taken up to heaven. But called THE LAMB OF GOD. (still not a name).
When HE spoke to Moses; HE introduced HIM self as I AM THAT I AM.(not a name).He will come again, not as JESUS; but as THE WORD OF GOD, (still not a name).
He will sit on the throne of God as the LAMB OF GOD. Still not a name. Because it is not for some to know who He really is.
The scripture says that all things were created for God’s own pleasure;
and another scripture says that all things were made for JESUS THE SON OF GOD??
This is a great mystery that can not be understood by many. God said; there is non beside ME, and there is no saviour beside ME.
Anyone given the answer will understand, he that is not given the answer will not understand.
you really should stick to your own advice ;””””There is no need to make up stories to force the answer, because it will not be the true answer.“””””
ignorance is not an non guilty verdict ;blindness in not guilty ,but now that you say you can see you are guilty for your own ignorance
“The Word” of God is not an offspring of God.
Wakeup, you agree to this one minute and argue against it the next???
Hi Edj.
Can you call your word your offspring?
No, he is the Word of God.
Your son is your offspring that is for sure.
Jesus in the flesh is the offspring of God.
Remember God said: beside me there is no saviour.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
“The Word” is not God’s offspring – “The Word” is what is spoken by GOD.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODWEdj.
If God had an offspring; He must be with Him.
But God said; there is none beside Him.wakeup.
God did have an offspring and he *IS* with him.
Pierre
Wakeup is trying to stir you up so that you will THINK!
What Wakeup has pointed out what seems like a contradiction, so before you can explain this “contradiction” you have to seek the answer, not give a personal attack.
It’s a valid question, and we know God does not contradict himself, so what’s the answer then?It’s a mystery alright, until you know, …..then it’s not a mystery.
Remember God said: beside me there is no saviour.
What does that have to do with the topic?
Ed,
Don’t you find it strange that God said there is no saviour besides himself, (so where does Christ fit?)
He also said he alone created everything by himself, (so where does Christ fit again? because everything was made through him, for him) Is he invisible? Did God not know he was there?
Then he says, lets make in our image (was he alone or not?)The topic is showing a contradiction in the scriptures and you need to explain why it is so.
WEdj.
If God had an offspring; He must be with Him.
But God said; there is none beside Him.wakeup.
God did have an offspring and he *IS* with him.
Ed,
How can God have an offspring before his son is born?
God does not give birth, he just creates,
the son was never a creature, or an offspring before his birth.Religion has really gotten you screwed up.
This is not an answer, this is an attack because you don’t know the answer.
Guess what Ed. I know the answer. I could even answer this 20 years ago.God would not be happy with some of you,
Wakeup does not hide and keep all his knowledge to himself. By him staying on this site, shows he has patience. You guys have chased many away.Wakeup likes to share with his brothers, but wants you to work it out for yourself. He lays the bait to see if any of you will bite, …he’s gently guiding you in the right direction, but because of lack of knowledge you guys turn nasty.
You think wakeup thinks highly of himself.
You guys condemn if someone has all the answers. You despise it.
Well did you ever think for one moment that God has had mercy on Wakeup, and given him all the treasures he was seeking for?
You should count yourselves blessed that he has not given up on you.Wakeup…….you failed to post why JESUS was able to say, “neither shall any pluck them out of his hand”, was it because of who JESUS was, or BECAUSE OF GOD THE FATHER?
Joh 10:29….”my Father, which gave them me, is greater then all; and no man is able to pluck them out of “HIS” hand. Then he went on to say me and my Father are one, (meaning in agreement, not power. )
From that scripture it appears, Jesus is giving God the Father all the credit, not himself. Also a title can identify a person just the same as a name can. Jesus is called the lamb of God , why?, Because he was GOD the Father’s sacrifice which he offered for the sins of the world, so Jesus was God’s lamb, just as the ISRAELITES WERE TOLD by GOD, TO OFFER THEIR LAMBS FOR THEIR SINS, SO GOD THE FATHER OFFERED HIS LAMB (JESUS ) FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. JESUS was never the word, he was a pure human being nurtured and raised by God, he was God’s lamb, sacrificed by God the Father for us all. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours…………..gene
journey42 wrote:Pierre
Wakeup is trying to stir you up so that you will THINK!
What Wakeup has pointed out what seems like a contradiction, so before you can explain this “contradiction” you have to seek the answer, not give a personal attack.
It’s a valid question, and we know God does not contradict himself, so what’s the answer then?It’s a mystery alright, until you know, …..then it’s not a mystery.
Hi Journey42,
Many contradictions are created when certain bible verses are misinterpreted.
Falsely believing “The Word” is God’s offspring creates many contradictions.
Since you are blind to this idea, you will likely continue to shirk it off.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODHi Journey42,
People like me, Gene, and Kerwin, can clearly see this is the cause of much of your so-called-bible-contradictions.
I know that Gene and myself have told you this many times, but you guys just continue to turn a deaf ear to us.
Once you understand “The Word” is God rather than God’s Son most of the contradictions will simply disappear._____________
God bless
Ed JEd,
(1)Don’t you find it strange that God said there is no saviour besides himself, ((2)so where does Christ fit?)
(3)He also said he alone created everything by himself, ((4)so where does Christ fit again? because everything was made through him, for him) (5)Is he invisible? (6)Did God not know he was there?
(7)Then he says, lets make in our image (was he alone or not?)The topic is showing a contradiction in the scriptures and you need to explain why it is so.
Journey42,
1) No, not at all; why, do you?
2) Jesus’ name means “YA’s Salvation”
3) Because he did created everything by himself
4) Christ’s death on the cross provided God with the means
5) Who?
6) Huh? What??
7) He was with the Angels. (ref. Job 38:4-7)Q. Have not noticed that Angels (when they appear) look just like us.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODEd,
(1)How can God have an offspring before his son is born?
(2)God does not give birth, (3)he just creates,
(4)the son was never a creature, or an offspring before his birth.Journey42,
1) Jesus was God’s offspring – EVEN WHILE IN THE WOMB OF MARY.
2) No, Mary did.
3) Jesus is God’s only-begotten Son.
4) There was no Jesus before his conception – only God (and the angels).Jesus came out from God e.i. a fractal of God was implanted into Mary.
God was Jesus’ Father and Mary his mother. So simple to understand.
Yet the flesh mind has trouble understanding the things of God.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODReligion has really gotten you screwed up.
This is not an answer, this is an attack because you don’t know the answer.
Guess what Ed. I know the answer. I could even answer this 20 years ago.Hi Journey42,
It most certainly is the answer. ‘Religion’ is where the doctrine of the word being Jesus came from. Did you not know this?
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODGod would not be happy with some of you,
Wakeup does not hide and keep all his knowledge to himself. By him staying on this site, shows he has patience. You guys have chased many away.Wakeup likes to share with his brothers, but wants you to work it out for yourself. He lays the bait to see if any of you will bite, …he’s gently guiding you in the right direction, but because of lack of knowledge you guys turn nasty.
You think wakeup thinks highly of himself.
You guys condemn if someone has all the answers. You despise it.
Well did you ever think for one moment that God has had mercy on Wakeup, and given him all the treasures he was seeking for?
You should count yourselves blessed that he has not given up on you.If Wakeup has ‘all the answers’ why does he dodge my questions that pin down his beliefs?
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