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Scripture says that sins against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
Mt 12:32 –
“Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
What are those sins?
First of all let’s dispense with the nonsense that the Holy Spirit is a person of God. I am not even going to entertain That Constantinian Greek Philosophy. There are many references that define “The Holy Spirit” as the third person of the Trinity, however this is what the word has come to mean over centuries of doctrinal influence and not what the actual meaning is from the language of the time. It has become known from a doctrinal standpoint instead of the actual language definition.
The definition of “spirit” in both the Hebrew and the Greek is wind or breath.
The ancient Hebrews were concrete thinkers. They related everything to what they could hear, see, smell, taste and touch. God was invisible but they could see his working in his creation. In the same way they could not see the wind but they could see its effects on the world around them.
So what is this effect we see that we define as the Holy Spirit. Simply put it is God working within and upon his creation to complete and fulfill his purpose and plan for that same creation. In other words it is both the power behind the plan of God and the plan itself.
A sin against the Holy Spirit is a sin that countermands the purpose and plan of God.
There are several doctrines that are blindly batted about here that do just that. They (in part) negate the pure, perfect, and simple example of Christ for humanity or they undermine and misrepresent the character of God as he is revealed to us.
These doctrines have been called Anti-Christ from time to time but in truth they are worst then that.all
I agree to that above Martian,for
Mt 12:33 “Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is
recognized by its fruit.
Pierre
To all,
Any sin done voluntarily and not under compulsion is a sin against the Holy Spirit according to Hebrews 10:26-31. It does not state that explicitly but it does state that one who deliberately sins has no sacrifice for sins left but only a fearful expectation of the lake of fire. This is why Jesus warned us not to look back once we chose to seek the prize of being righteous as God is righteous.
That is a strict interpretation. A loser translation is that God is warning us against a worldview that does sin willingly. There is also the question “What is a voluntary sin?”. Never the less it is clearly wiser to choose not to commit any sin you have the faith to avoid.
Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 29 2010,16:35) To all, Any sin done voluntarily and not under compulsion is a sin against the Holy Spirit according to Hebrews 10:26-31. It does not state that explicitly but it does state that one who deliberately sins has no sacrifice for sins left but only a fearful expectation of the lake of fire. This is why Jesus warned us not to look back once we chose to seek the prize of being righteous as God is righteous.
That is a strict interpretation. A loser translation is that God is warning us against a worldview that does sin willingly. There is also the question “What is a voluntary sin?”. Never the less it is clearly wiser to choose not to commit any sin you have the faith to avoid.
hi KerwinAc 5:1 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.
Ac 5:2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
Ac 5:3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
Ac 5:4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God.”
Ac 5:5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died.see for yourself ….
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 29 2010,11:46) Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 29 2010,16:35) To all, Any sin done voluntarily and not under compulsion is a sin against the Holy Spirit according to Hebrews 10:26-31. It does not state that explicitly but it does state that one who deliberately sins has no sacrifice for sins left but only a fearful expectation of the lake of fire. This is why Jesus warned us not to look back once we chose to seek the prize of being righteous as God is righteous.
That is a strict interpretation. A loser translation is that God is warning us against a worldview that does sin willingly. There is also the question “What is a voluntary sin?”. Never the less it is clearly wiser to choose not to commit any sin you have the faith to avoid.
hi KerwinAc 5:1 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.
Ac 5:2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
Ac 5:3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
Ac 5:4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God.”
Ac 5:5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died.see for yourself ….
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,“Bible Truth” says: “the HolySpirit is God”; do you now believe this? (Click Here)
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgTo All…………Blaspheme is to speak out against something. If we speak out against the Spirit of Truth , is speaking against truth, there can remain no forgiveness for it. So what does that mean?. It simply means you (MUST) Change Because Truth will not change not now or in the future. So anyone who is speaking against it or (blaspheming it) must change. Jesus was no meaning that a person who Blasphemes the spirit would be eternally destroyed that is a false assumption. No one speaking against the Spirit of Truth can ever be forgiven of doing it he must change and cease doing it. Forgiveness is no option Stop and decease from doing it is the only option, rather now or in the future. Rather you are a eternal existing being or a human being it makes no difference. IMO
peace and love to you all…………………………….gene
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2010,19:39) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 29 2010,11:46) Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 29 2010,16:35) To all, Any sin done voluntarily and not under compulsion is a sin against the Holy Spirit according to Hebrews 10:26-31. It does not state that explicitly but it does state that one who deliberately sins has no sacrifice for sins left but only a fearful expectation of the lake of fire. This is why Jesus warned us not to look back once we chose to seek the prize of being righteous as God is righteous.
That is a strict interpretation. A loser translation is that God is warning us against a worldview that does sin willingly. There is also the question “What is a voluntary sin?”. Never the less it is clearly wiser to choose not to commit any sin you have the faith to avoid.
hi KerwinAc 5:1 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.
Ac 5:2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
Ac 5:3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
Ac 5:4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God.”
Ac 5:5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died.see for yourself ….
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,“Bible Truth” says: “the HolySpirit is God”; do you now believe this? (Click Here)
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edji do not think you understand truth ,only your numbers,
Pierre
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2010,21:18) To All…………Blaspheme is to speak out against something. If we speak out against the Spirit of Truth , is speaking against truth, there can remain no forgiveness for it. So what does that mean?. It simply means you (MUST) Change Because Truth will not change not now or in the future. So anyone who is speaking against it or (blaspheming it) must change. Jesus was no meaning that a person who Blasphemes the spirit would be eternally destroyed that is a false assumption. No one speaking against the Spirit of Truth can ever be forgiven of doing it he must change and cease doing it. Forgiveness is no option Stop and decease from doing it is the only option, rather now or in the future. Rather you are a eternal existing being or a human being it makes no difference. IMO peace and love to you all…………………………….gene
geneis this done with our own freewill or it done by force?
just say ,,,yes or no
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 29 2010,14:37) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2010,19:39) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 29 2010,11:46) Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 29 2010,16:35) To all, Any sin done voluntarily and not under compulsion is a sin against the Holy Spirit according to Hebrews 10:26-31. It does not state that explicitly but it does state that one who deliberately sins has no sacrifice for sins left but only a fearful expectation of the lake of fire. This is why Jesus warned us not to look back once we chose to seek the prize of being righteous as God is righteous.
That is a strict interpretation. A loser translation is that God is warning us against a worldview that does sin willingly. There is also the question “What is a voluntary sin?”. Never the less it is clearly wiser to choose not to commit any sin you have the faith to avoid.
hi KerwinAc 5:1 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.
Ac 5:2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
Ac 5:3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
Ac 5:4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God.”
Ac 5:5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died.see for yourself ….
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,“Bible Truth” says: “the HolySpirit is God”; do you now believe this? (Click Here)
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edji do not think you understand truth ,only your numbers,
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,You want Gene to answer 'your' question and at the same time 'you' avoid mine?
'Your' being inconsistent; No?
Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgPierre,
I agree as I considered Ananias and his wife Sapphira when I used the passage from Hebrews. In their case one sin seems to have been enough so Christians need to heed Jesus teaching not to look back once they have set the hand to the plow.
Kerwin………..No where does it say They were (BLASPHEMING) or (Speaking out against) the Spirit of truth, they simply lied about what they had done with the money from the proceeds of their sale of possessions. There death was a sign that added sobriety to the church because great fear fell on them all, as a result they all learned the lesion of severity associated with the Spirit of GOD. But to use that as meaning ( blasphemy) may be a stretch. We know there is “BOTH GOODNESS AND SEVERITY WITH GOD”. When one has the Spirit (intellect) OF THE TRUTH recieved from GOD they (recognize truth) So it appears Ananias and Sapphira did recognize this and the consequences of there actions was taken on them, however to say that is (eternal) death for them is also forcing a conclusion and a bit of a stretch. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 29 2010,14:41) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2010,21:18) To All…………Blaspheme is to speak out against something. If we speak out against the Spirit of Truth , is speaking against truth, there can remain no forgiveness for it. So what does that mean?. It simply means you (MUST) Change Because Truth will not change not now or in the future. So anyone who is speaking against it or (blaspheming it) must change. Jesus was no meaning that a person who Blasphemes the spirit would be eternally destroyed that is a false assumption. No one speaking against the Spirit of Truth can ever be forgiven of doing it he must change and cease doing it. Forgiveness is no option Stop and decease from doing it is the only option, rather now or in the future. Rather you are a eternal existing being or a human being it makes no difference. IMO peace and love to you all…………………………….gene
geneis this done with our own freewill or it done by force?
just say ,,,yes or no
Pierre
Terricca…………answer is WILL, not “FREE” WILL. I really don't want to play your stupid head games Pierre.peace and love…………………….gene
It seems that many missed the point. To sin or hinder the plan or purposes of God is sin agains the moving of God on his creation (holy Spirit). This would include the Trinitarians and the pre-existers. They hinder the work of God.
Quote (martian @ Aug. 30 2010,04:26) It seems that many missed the point. To sin or hinder the plan or purposes of God is sin agains the moving of God on his creation (holy Spirit). This would include the Trinitarians and the pre-existers. They hinder the work of God.
Hi Martian,Think carefully and deeply about what you are presenting here!
Are you implying that those who believe in either preexistence or
the trinity are (falsely) guilty of blaspheming against the HolySpirit?Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2010,12:22) Quote (martian @ Aug. 30 2010,04:26) It seems that many missed the point. To sin or hinder the plan or purposes of God is sin agains the moving of God on his creation (holy Spirit). This would include the Trinitarians and the pre-existers. They hinder the work of God.
Hi Martian,Think carefully and deeply about what you are presenting here!
Are you implying that those who believe in either preexistence or
the trinity are (falsely) guilty of blaspheming against the HolySpirit?Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No I am not saying they are “falsely” guilty. I am saying they are guiltyQuote (martian @ Aug. 30 2010,14:10) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2010,12:22) Quote (martian @ Aug. 30 2010,04:26) It seems that many missed the point. To sin or hinder the plan or purposes of God is sin agains the moving of God on his creation (holy Spirit). This would include the Trinitarians and the pre-existers. They hinder the work of God.
Hi Martian,Think carefully and deeply about what you are presenting here!
Are you implying that those who believe in either preexistence or
the trinity are (falsely) guilty of blaspheming against the HolySpirit?Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No I am not saying they are “falsely” guilty. I am saying they are guilty
Hi Martian,I say it is falsely what you are saying.
To blaspheme the “HolySpirit” is to reject the “HolySpirit” as God! (Click Here)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (martian @ Aug. 30 2010,14:10) I am saying they are guilty
Hi Martian,Rev.12:10: And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation,
and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the
accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. (Click Here)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDJ……………….look up the word to Blaspheme first OK. To blaspheme to to speak out against something in a hostile manner. IMO
And martian is right people who push the Trinity and Preexistence are guilty of Sinning against the Truth of GOD. IMO
peace and love………………..gene
To all,
Be careful as Jesus clearly stated that sin and blaspheme will be forgiven but not blaspheme against the holy spirit, Mark 3:28-29. So it is showing irreverence toward the Holy Spirit and not necessary showing irreverence towards God that will not be forgiven. Ananias and Sapphira showed irreverence toward the Holy Spirit by lying to it. A person who chooses voluntarily to sin without being compelled and who also has the Holy Spirit shows irreverence to the Holy Spirit as well.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 30 2010,14:55) EDJ……………….look up the word to Blaspheme first OK. To blaspheme to to speak out against something in a hostile manner. IMO And martian is right people who push the Trinity and Preexistence are guilty of Sinning against the Truth of GOD. IMO
peace and love………………..gene
Hi Gene,The bible doesn't say anything about no preexistence.
You are putting to much credence into your opinions?
You should use your “Free Will” to learn Bible Truth”!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Matt.5:44)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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