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1. You became an atheist when you were 10 years old, based on ideas of God that you learned in Sunday School. Your ideas about God haven't changed since.
2. You think that the primary aim of an omni-benevolent God is for people to have FUN.
3. Although you've memorized a half a dozen proofs that He doesn't exist, you still think you're God's gift to the ignorant masses.
4. You believe the astronomical size of the universe somehow disproves God, as if God needed a tiny universe in order to exist.
5. You spend hours arguing that atheism actually means “without a belief in God ” and not just ” belief that there is no god”, as if this is a meaningful distinction in real life.
6. You can make the existence of pink unicorns the center-piece of a philosophical critique.
7. You're a spoiled fifteen year old boy who lives in the suburbs and you go into a chat room to declare that, “I know there is no God because no loving God would allow anyone to suffer as much as I…hold on. My cell phone's ringing.”
8. You believe that if something cannot be touched, seen, heard, or measured in some way, then it must not exist, yet you fail to see the irony of your calling Christians “narrow-minded”.
9. Your only knowledge of The Bible comes from searching 'bible contradictions' in Google.
10. You believe the movie Dogma gives the most accurate portrayal of Christian theology.
Na.
Do you want to talk about any of the above points that might be applicable to you?
E.g., Do you think you're God's gift to the ignorant masses?
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 25 2010,06:34) 7. You're a spoiled fifteen year old boy who lives in the suburbs and you go into a chat room to declare that, “I know there is no God because no loving God would allow anyone to suffer as much as I…hold on. My cell phone's ringing.”
Funny.
7. You're a spoiled fifteen year old boy who lives in the suburbs and you go into a chat room to declare that, “I know there is no God because no loving God would allow anyone to suffer as much as I…hold on. My cell phone's ringing.”
That is what I call spoiled….Thanks for the laugh I needed that…..
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2011,10:02) Na. Do you want to talk about any of the above points that might be applicable to you?
E.g., Do you think you're God's gift to the ignorant masses?
What god?Stuart
No probs. I am always willing to help.
BTW, I don't exist just because there is evidence of design and intellect at the helm of my posts. Na, just a rogue program that is evolving. In fact no one wrote me either. I sort of spawned out of cyberspace.More proof?
You haven't seen me, heard me, or bumped into me.
See, I don't exist.Have a nice day.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2011,17:03) No probs. I am always willing to help.
BTW, I don't exist just because there is evidence of design and intellect at the helm of my posts. Na, just a rogue program that is evolving. In fact no one wrote me either. I sort of spawned out of cyberspace.More proof?
You haven't seen me, heard me, or bumped into me.
See, I don't exist.Have a nice day.
And there was I happy to accept that you were actually intelligently designing what you wrote.Well, maybe sometimes intelligently.
Still, if you insist.
Stuart
You are free to believe what you want. You are certainly an example of that. Logic, deduction, cause and effect cannot compete with non-questioning fundamental Atheism. Good arguments, evidence, deduction, and logic appear to be unable to penetrate the barrier of atheistic belief. Truth, light, reason, and logic cannot prevail in your mind because it would shatter your beloved belief system into a million pieces.
So keep strong. Ignore reason and logic. Don't accept deduction. Don't answer questions that threaten your dream world. Believe the impossible and illogical. And don't forget that the best response is to mock the other guy and what he believes. That way the focus is off you and it will make you feel better too. In short, keep the faith no matter what. Otherwise you will lose and have to admit you were wrong. God forbid.
Hi T8,
Good Post! …But too bad Stuart will not believe “The Truth” of what you say!
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2011,20:23) You are free to believe what you want. You are certainly an example of that. Logic, deduction, cause and effect cannot compete with non-questioning fundamental Atheism. Good arguments, evidence, deduction, and logic appear to be unable to penetrate the barrier of atheistic belief. Truth, light, reason, and logic cannot prevail in your mind because it would shatter your beloved belief system into a million pieces. So keep strong. Ignore reason and logic. Don't accept deduction. Don't answer questions that threaten your dream world. Believe the impossible and illogical. And don't forget that the best response is to mock the other guy and what he believes. That way the focus is off you and it will make you feel better too. In short, keep the faith no matter what. Otherwise you will lose and have to admit you were wrong. God forbid.
Give me one example of me actually doing any of that and you could have a point.It reads more like your hypocrisy to me.
Stuart
OK.
Of the three choices available to us pertaining to how everything came to exist. You deny a creator by bias alone, leaving you 2 choices, either nothing or something eternal and non-living.
When you dissect those 2 options, both an eternal something that is non-living and nothing, you can clearly see that they are impossible and foolish.
Yet you still believe there is no God, therefore the statements in my post still stand. You ignore reason, deduction, and evidence, and prefer to believe the impossible.
You also mock the idea of a creator which is the only option that is viable.
Therefore you are an illogical person who has faith in the impossible. The irony of it all is that many Atheists call Believers narrow minded, and Atheists often think that their opinions are God's gift to the ignorant masses.
What a joke.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2011,19:01) OK. Of the three choices available to us pertaining to how everything came to exist. You deny a creator by bias alone, leaving you 2 choices, either nothing or something eternal and non-living.
When you dissect those 2 options, both an eternal something that is non-living and nothing, you can clearly see that they are impossible and foolish.
Yet you still believe there is no God, therefore the statements in my post still stand. You ignore reason, deduction, and evidence, and prefer to believe the impossible.
You also mock the idea of a creator which is the only option that is viable.
Therefore you are an illogical person who has faith in the impossible. The irony of it all is that many Atheists call Believers narrow minded, and Atheists often think that their opinions are God's gift to the ignorant masses.
What a joke.
I agree that mocking the idea of a creator is the only reasonable option.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2011,20:16) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2011,19:01) OK. Of the three choices available to us pertaining to how everything came to exist. You deny a creator by bias alone, leaving you 2 choices, either nothing or something eternal and non-living.
When you dissect those 2 options, both an eternal something that is non-living and nothing, you can clearly see that they are impossible and foolish.
Yet you still believe there is no God, therefore the statements in my post still stand. You ignore reason, deduction, and evidence, and prefer to believe the impossible.
You also mock the idea of a creator which is the only option that is viable.
Therefore you are an illogical person who has faith in the impossible. The irony of it all is that many Atheists call Believers narrow minded, and Atheists often think that their opinions are God's gift to the ignorant masses.
What a joke.
I agree that mocking the idea of a creator is the only reasonable option.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Yet you also have (in essence) said… 'there is that possibility that God does exist'.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2011,20:27) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2011,20:16) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2011,19:01) OK. Of the three choices available to us pertaining to how everything came to exist. You deny a creator by bias alone, leaving you 2 choices, either nothing or something eternal and non-living.
When you dissect those 2 options, both an eternal something that is non-living and nothing, you can clearly see that they are impossible and foolish.
Yet you still believe there is no God, therefore the statements in my post still stand. You ignore reason, deduction, and evidence, and prefer to believe the impossible.
You also mock the idea of a creator which is the only option that is viable.
Therefore you are an illogical person who has faith in the impossible. The irony of it all is that many Atheists call Believers narrow minded, and Atheists often think that their opinions are God's gift to the ignorant masses.
What a joke.
I agree that mocking the idea of a creator is the only reasonable option.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Yet you also have (in essence) said… 'there is that possibility that God does exist'.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Have you in essence said there is a possibility no gods exist?Or do you expect me to be the honest one?
We are all agnostic. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2011,21:38) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2011,20:27) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2011,20:16) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2011,19:01) OK. Of the three choices available to us pertaining to how everything came to exist. You deny a creator by bias alone, leaving you 2 choices, either nothing or something eternal and non-living.
When you dissect those 2 options, both an eternal something that is non-living and nothing, you can clearly see that they are impossible and foolish.
Yet you still believe there is no God, therefore the statements in my post still stand. You ignore reason, deduction, and evidence, and prefer to believe the impossible.
You also mock the idea of a creator which is the only option that is viable.
Therefore you are an illogical person who has faith in the impossible. The irony of it all is that many Atheists call Believers narrow minded, and Atheists often think that their opinions are God's gift to the ignorant masses.
What a joke.
I agree that mocking the idea of a creator is the only reasonable option.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Yet you also have (in essence) said… 'there is that possibility that God does exist'.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Have you in essence said there is a possibility no gods exist?Or do you expect me to be the honest one?
We are all agnostic. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,YHVH most definitely does exist!
I have even shown you “PROOF OF GOD”=117
For the record… Are you calling me 'a liar'? (Exodus 20:16)Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2011,20:16) I agree that mocking the idea of a creator is the only reasonable option. Stuart
A perfect example of your narrow mindedness.I don't need to spell it out, you demonstrate it perfectly.
So don't expect anyone to really take you seriously as you have completely failed to prove your argument because it is based entirely on bias.
And continuing with bias as the best argument shows that you are not a worthy opponent at all.
Could you do me a favour and invite another Atheist here. Someone with at least some idea or clue as to why he believes as he does.
So far I am yet to meet an Atheist who can debate at any reasonable level.
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