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Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
This verse is not to be taken literal. As it has already been mentioned, hell is the same as grave, it means to hide, to cover up, as in burien.
1Cr 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Death is a condition, and can only be destroyed by destroying the one who brings on this condition, who had the power over death, and that is Satan the devil, the last enemy, that will be destroyed in the lake of fire.
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
By destroying Satan, God will have destroyed sin; sin brings on death, no more sin, no more death, no more grave/hell/hades/sheol. That is how death and the grave will be thrown into the lake of fire.
What the lake of fire basically stands for is, total and everlasting destruction, not torment.Georg
Quote (Cindy @ April 14 2009,13:51) Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. This verse is not to be taken literal. As it has already been mentioned, hell is the same as grave, it means to hide, to cover up, as in burien.
1Cr 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Death is a condition, and can only be destroyed by destroying the one who brings on this condition, who had the power over death, and that is Satan the devil, the last enemy, that will be destroyed in the lake of fire.
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
By destroying Satan, God will have destroyed sin; sin brings on death, no more sin, no more death, no more grave/hell/hades/sheol. That is how death and the grave will be thrown into the lake of fire.
What the lake of fire basically stands for is, total and everlasting destruction, not torment.Georg
What is the second death?HI,
Amos 9:2
“Though they dig into Sheol,From there will My hand take them;And though they ascend to heaven,From there will I bring them down.Quote (kerwin @ April 14 2009,19:52) Quote (Cindy @ April 14 2009,13:51) Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. This verse is not to be taken literal. As it has already been mentioned, hell is the same as grave, it means to hide, to cover up, as in burien.
1Cr 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Death is a condition, and can only be destroyed by destroying the one who brings on this condition, who had the power over death, and that is Satan the devil, the last enemy, that will be destroyed in the lake of fire.
Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
By destroying Satan, God will have destroyed sin; sin brings on death, no more sin, no more death, no more grave/hell/hades/sheol. That is how death and the grave will be thrown into the lake of fire.
What the lake of fire basically stands for is, total and everlasting destruction, not torment.Georg
What is the second death?
The second death is when you die again, after you were resurrected from the first death.
Christ paid the penalty for your sins the first time, the second time you pay the penalty your self; the penalty for sin is death.Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Georg
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 08 2005,00:05) Hi david,
When Lazarus was raised from sleep was he recreated? Or did his original life or soul reinvigourate his dead body? Searching for and casting out so-called greek influence from the bible is distorting what is written. There are many shivering babies lying around in the spilt water. Hades may be a greek word but the Spirit uses this word in the bible.
Lazarus was a unique case as he was resurected in his corrupted body and not his incorruptible one.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,14:09) Hi KW,
Indeed.
As was the girl in Lk8
I believe scripture several individuals, even at least one in the old testament.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 06 2005,19:07) Hi,
Some suggest that Sheol is a general word for death, a mythical common grave. They say it is not a place but a condition. Or they say it is a state of existence like to death such as Jonah in the whale.Sheol is very commonly found in the Old Testament.
Numbers 16.27f
“So they got back from around the dwellings of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram; and Dathan and Abiram came out and stood in the doorway of their tents, along with their wives and their sons and their little ones.
Moses said'
'By this you shall know that the Lord has sent me to do all these deeds for this is not my doing. If these men die the death of all men or if they suffer the fate of all men, then the Lord has not sent me. But if the Lord brings about an entirely new thing and the ground opens up it's mouth and swallows them up with all that is theirs, and they descend alive into Sheol, then you will understand that these men have spurned the Lord'
As he finished speaking all these words, the ground that was under them split open; and the earth opened it's mouth and swalllowed them up, and their households, and all the men who belonged to Korah with their possessions. So they and all that belonged to them went down alive to Sheol; and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly”So here it is plain that Sheol is in the earth
It is usual to be dead to enter it.
It is possible to enter it alive.
It does not mean the same as ordinary death but is separate.
AND
God is to be feared.God is not like man bound by individual moral responsiblity in terms of punishment. The little ones in man's eyes can hardly be seen as responsible for the sins of their fathers and yet they too were destroyed. We cannot apply man's moral Laws to God and judge God.
'Come ye out of her my people lest you suffer for her sins'.
“Sheol”. Hebrew, Sheõl.The first occurrence of this word is in Genesis 37:35, where it is rendered “grave”. It occurs sixty-five times in the Hebrew of the Old Testament; and only by studying each passage by itself can the student hope to gather the Biblical usage of the word.
All heathen or traditional usages are not only worthless, but mischievous. The following are all the passages where the word “Sheol” occurs, with the rendering in each passage indicated thus:
1. = grave, 2. = pit, 3. = hell.
1. Genesis 37:35.
1. Genesis 42:38.
1 Genesis 44:29,31.
2. Numbers 16:30,33.
3. Deuteronomy 32:22.
1. 1Samuel 2:6.
3. 2Samuel 22:6.
1. 1Kings 2:6,9.
1. Job 7:9.
3. Job 11:8.
1. Job 14:13.
1. Job 17:13.
2. Job 17:16.
1. Job 21:13.
1. Job 24:19.
3. Job 26:6.
1. Psalm 6:5.
3. Psalm 9:17.
3. Psalm 16:10.
3. Psalm 18:5.
1. Psalm 30:3.
1. Psalm 31:17.
1. Psalm 49:14,14,15.
3. Psalm 55:15. (margin grave).
3. Psalm 86:13. (margin grave).
3. Psalm 88:3.
1. Psalm 89:48.
3. Psalm 116:3.
3. Psalm 139:8.
1. Psalm 141:7.
1. Proverbs 1:12.
3. Proverbs 5:5.
3. Proverbs 7:27.
3. Proverbs 9:18.
3. Proverbs 15:11,24.
3. Proverbs 23:14.
3. Proverbs 27:20.
1. Proverbs 30:16.
1. Ecclesiastes 9:10.
1. Song of Solomon 8:6.
3. Isaiah 5:14.
3. Isaiah 14:9 (margin grave).
1. Isaiah 14:11.
3. Isaiah 14:15.
3. Isaiah 28:15,18.
1. Isaiah 38:10.
1. Isaiah 38:18.
3. Isaiah 57:9.
1. Ezekiel 31:15.
3. Ezekiel 31:16,17.
3. Ezekiel 32:21,27.
1. Hosea 13:14,14.
3. Amos 9:2.
3. Jonah 2:2 (margin grave).
3. Habakkuk 2:5.As meaning “THE grave,” it is to be distinguished from keber, A grave, or burying-place (from kabar, to bury, first occurrence Genesis 23:4): and bõr, a pit, generally hewn in the rock, hence used of a cistern (Genesis 37:20) or a dugeon, and etc., when dry. (See note below on the word “well” in Genesis 21:19.)
Note on Genesis 21:19.
° well. Hebrew beer, a well (digged): not ayin, a spring or fountain; or bõr, a cistern (hewn).
From: The Companion Bible
Hi……..>hell, pit, grave, All mean the same thing. The word Hell in English came from the meaning to bury something in the earth.
gene
Sheol is the grave. (Physical). The Wages of Sin is Death, period.
“Sheol”. Hebrew, Sheõl.
This Is Appendix 35 From The Companion Bible.
The first occurrence of this word is in Genesis 37:35, where it is rendered “grave”.
It occurs sixty-five times in the Hebrew of the Old Testament; and only by studying each passage by itself can the student hope to gather the Biblical usage of the word.
All heathen or traditional usages are not only worthless, but mischievous. The following are all the passages where the word “Sheol” occurs, with the rendering in each passage indicated thus:
1. = grave, 2. = pit, 3. = hell.
1. Genesis 37:35.
1. Genesis 42:38.
1 Genesis 44:29,31.
2. Numbers 16:30,33.
3. Deuteronomy 32:22.
1. 1Samuel 2:6.
3. 2Samuel 22:6.
1. 1Kings 2:6,9.
1. Job 7:9.
3. Job 11:8.
1. Job 14:13.
1. Job 17:13.
2. Job 17:16.
1. Job 21:13.
1. Job 24:19.
3. Job 26:6.
1. Psalm 6:5.
3. Psalm 9:17.
3. Psalm 16:10.
3. Psalm 18:5.
1. Psalm 30:3.
1. Psalm 31:17.
1. Psalm 49:14,14,15.
3. Psalm 55:15. (margin grave).
3. Psalm 86:13. (margin grave).
3. Psalm 88:3.
1. Psalm 89:48.
3. Psalm 116:3.
3. Psalm 139:8.
1. Psalm 141:7.
1. Proverbs 1:12.
3. Proverbs 5:5.
3. Proverbs 7:27.
3. Proverbs 9:18.
3. Proverbs 15:11,24.
3. Proverbs 23:14.
3. Proverbs 27:20.
1. Proverbs 30:16.
1. Ecclesiastes 9:10.
1. Song of Solomon 8:6.
3. Isaiah 5:14.
3. Isaiah 14:9 (margin grave).
1. Isaiah 14:11.
3. Isaiah 14:15.
3. Isaiah 28:15,18.
1. Isaiah 38:10.
1. Isaiah 38:18.
3. Isaiah 57:9.
1. Ezekiel 31:15.
3. Ezekiel 31:16,17.
3. Ezekiel 32:21,27.
1. Hosea 13:14,14.
3. Amos 9:2.
3. Jonah 2:2 (margin grave).
3. Habakkuk 2:5.As meaning “THE grave,” it is to be distinguished from keber, A grave, or burying-place (from kabar, to bury, first occurrence Genesis 23:4): and bõr, a pit, generally hewn in the rock, hence used of a cistern (Genesis 37:20) or a dugeon, and etc., when dry. (See note below on the word “well” in Genesis 21:19.)
Note on Genesis 21:19. well. Hebrew beer, a well (digged): not ayin, a spring or fountain; or bõr, a cistern (hewn).
Quote (Gene @ Oct. 06 2009,07:26) Hi……..>hell, pit, grave, All mean the same thing. The word Hell in English came from the meaning to bury something in the earth. gene
Absolutly!
The Synonymous Words for “Hell”, etc.
This Is Appendix 131 From The Companion Bible.
“Hell” is the English rendering of two different Greek words in the New Testament
The English word is from the Anglo-Saxon hel, Genitive case helle = a hidden place, from the Anglo-Saxon helan = to hide.
It is in the New Testament used as the translation of two Greek words :-
Gehenna.
Greek geenna. This is the transliteration of the Hebrew Gai' Hinnom, that is to say the Valley of Hinnom or “the Valley” of [the sons of] Hinnom, where were the fires through which children were passed in the worship of Moloch.
In the Old Testament Tophet was the Hebrew word used, because it was a place in this valley.
In our Lord's day the idolatry had ceased, but the fires were still continually burning there for the destruction of the refuse of Jerusalem.
Hence, geenna was used for the fires of destruction associated with the judgment of God.
Sometimes, “geenna of fire”.
See 2Kings 23:10. Isaiah 30:33. Jeremiah 7:31, 32; 19:11-14.
Geenna occurs 12 times, and is always rendered “hell”, videlicet Matthew 5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33. Mark 9:43, 45, 47. Luke 12:5. James 3:6.
Hades.
Greek hades, from a (privative) and idein, to see (Appendix 133. I. i); used by the Greeks for the unseen world.
The meaning which the Greeks put upon it does not concern us; nor have we anything to do with the imaginations of the heathen, or the traditions of Jews or Romanists, or the teachings of demons or evil spirits, or of any who still cling to them.
The Holy Spirit has used it as one of the “words pertaining to the earth”, and in so doing has “purified” it, “as silver tried in a furnace” (see notes on Psalms 12:6).
From this we learn that His own words “are pure”, but words belonging to this earth have to be “purified”.
The Old Testament is the fountain head of the Hebrew language.
It has no literature behind it.
But the case is entirely different with the Greek language.
The Hebrew Sheol is a word Divine in its origin and usage.
The Greek Hades is human in its origin and comes down to us laden with centuries of development, in which it has acquired new senses, meanings, and usages.
Seeing that the Holy Spirit has used it in Acts 2:27, 31 as His own equivalent of Sheol in Psalm 16:10, He has settled, once for all, the sense in which we are to understand it.
The meaning He has given to Sheol in Psalms 16:10 is the one meaning we are to give it wherever it occurs in the New Testament, whether we transliterate it or translate it.
We have no liberty to do otherwise, and must discard everything outside the Word of God.
The word occurs eleven times (Matthew 11:23; 16:18. Luke 10:15; 16:23. Acts 2:27, 31. 1Corinthians 15:55. Revelation 1:18; 6:8; 20:13, 14); and is rendered “hell” in every passage except one, where it is rendered “grave” (1Corinthians 15:55, margin “hell”).
In the Revised Version the word is always transliterated “Hades”, except in 1Corinthians 15:55 (where “death” is substituted because of the reading, in all the texts, of thanate for hade), and in the American Revised Version also.
As Hades is the Divine Scriptural equivalent of Sheol, further light may be gained from Appendix 35, and a reference to the 65 passages there given.
It may be well to note that while “Hades” is rendered “hell” in the New Testament (except once, where the rendering “the grave” could not be avoided), Sheol, its Hebrew equivalent, occurs 65 times, and is rendered “the grave” 31 times (or 54%); “hell” 31 times (4 times with margin “the grave”, reducing it to 41.5%); and “pit” only 3 times (or 4.5 %).
“The grave”, therefore, is obviously the best rendering, meaning the state of death (German sterbend, for which we have no English equivalent); not the act of dying, as an examination of all the occurrences of both words will show.
The rendering “pit” so evidently means “the grave” that it may at once be substituted for it (Numbers 16:30, 33. Job 17:16).
The rendering “the grave” (not “a grave”, which is Hebrew keber or bor) exactly expresses the meaning of both Sheol and Hades.
For, as to direction, it is always down: as to place, it is in the earth: as to relation, it is always in contrast with the state of the living (Deuteronomy 32:22-25 and 1Samuel 2:6-8); as to association, it is connected with mourning (Genesis 37:34, 35), sorrow (Genesis 42:38. 2Samuel 22:6. Psalms 18:5; 116:3), fright and terror (Numbers 16:27, 34), mourning (Isaiah 38:3, 10, 17, 18), silence (Psalms 6:5; 31:17. Ecclesiastes 9:10), no knowledge (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10), punishment (Numbers 16:29, 34. 1Kings 2:6, 9. Job 24:19. Psalms 9:17 (Revised Version = re-turned)), corruption (Psalms 16:10. Acts 2:27, 31); as to duration, resurrection is the only exit from it (Psalms 16:11. Acts 2:27, 31; 13:33-37. 1Corinthians 15:55. Revelation 1:18; 20:5, 13, 14).
Tartaroo (occurs only in 2Peter 2:4) = to thrust down to Tartarus, Tartarus being a Greek word, not used elsewhere, or at all in the Septuagint.
Homer describes it as subterranean (compare Deuteronomy 32:22, which may refer to this).
The Homeric Tartarus is the prison of the Titans, or giants (compare Hebrew Rephaim, Appendix 25), who rebelled against Zeus.
CT………..Good post on the word Hell, The way i understood it was when the English would put there Potatoes in the ground to[Preserve them they call that Helling potatoes it was simply putting them in the ground. The idea that there is some kind of Life there, is nothing but pagan ideology. When a man dies that is it, His thought PARISH, His body goes into the Ground and corrupts , He is through for ever unless GOD resurrects Him by giving him a new body and puts spirit back into it, and he becomes a living SOUL again. If He left us in the grave and did not do anything we simply would cease to exist for ever. GOD doesn't need to throw anyone into any literial, every burning lake of fire. If only we could see the extent of Pagan thoughts that has been put into the sacred writings. Greek influences has heavily swayed our texts. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
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