Scripture teaches monotheism, not trinity.

[Paladin]

Paladin's Major premise
A) Monothiesm is taught in the O.T. scriptures.

Paladin's Minor premise
B) Jesus had a beginning

Paladin's conclusion
C) consequence of A & B is that Jesus is not God.

Structure of the debate
Being that I would be taking the side of affirming the topic (that yes Monothiesm is taught in the scriptures) and you are negating, I would take the first “speech.” Using normal debate structures in competitive philosophical debate, the debate would look like this –

Affirmative constructive (max of 5,000 words) – this is where the affirmative can build his case for his belief

Negative constructive (max of 7,000 words) – this is where the negative can refute the affirmative as well as build his case for his belief

Affirmative rebuttal (max of 4,000 words) – where the affirmative can respond to and defend his case

Negative rebuttal (max of 4,000 words) – negative does the same and makes closing comments

Affirmative rebuttal (max of 3,000 words) – finishes his defense and makes closing comments

Ethics
Obviously the debate would be moderated and thus any perceived ad hominem attacks would be reported. A verified ad hominem attack would result in a warning the first two times, with the third time disqualifying the person from the debate.

Examples of ad hominem would be, “Any “right thinking” Christian would see this,” “You're just redefining scriptures to build your theology.,” etc.

The posting of responses should be timely. This would mean, for our case, SOME response within a week and for the rebuttals as that entails mostly a repeat of points offered in affirming arguments.

Debate to begin July 5th

[KangarooJack]

Paladin,

Your terms are unacceptable. I do not negate that Monotheism is taught in Scripture. Your assertion that I take the side of negating Monotheism as being taught in Scripture is a misrepresentation right off the bat. What I negate is that God is a numeric one. And what I affirm is that He is a unified one. I will not take the side of negating Monotheism. So you must rewrite the terms. This is about Arain Monotheism versus Trinitarian Monotheism and which is one is Scriptural.

I noticed also that you as the affirmer enjoy the benefit of using a total of 1,000 more words than I the negater. So I get an additional negative rebuttal  up to 1,000 words. This gives us the option of using 12,000 words each.

thinker

[Paladin]

Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,03:52)

Paladin, Your terms are unacceptable. I do not negate that Monotheism is taught in Scripture. Your assertion that I take the side of negating Monotheism as being taught in Scripture is a misrepresentation right off the bat. What I negate is that God is a numeric one. And what I affirm is that He is a unified one. I will not take the side of negating Monotheism. So you must rewrite the terms. This is about Arain Monotheism versus Trinitarian Monotheism and which is one is Scriptural. I noticed also that you as the affirmer enjoy the benefit of using a total of 1,000 more words than I the negater. So I get an additional negative rebuttal  up to 1,000 words. This gives us the option of using 12,000 words each. thinker

t8;

Please lock the thread, as thethinker has capitulated.

First he accepted my theme as stated,
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….=175001

Paladin said:

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Do you or thinker care to enter into a one to one debate on the issue of whether monotheism is taught in scripture? A second thread can be utilized for comments from other interested parties. But NO ONE would be allowed to interfere on the debate.

Paladin,
I accepted your offer at the beginning and you never got back. But there will have to be rules. I would welcome one on one debate with you without the interruptions of others. I would gladly help to show people that your only purpose for being here is that you have absolutely nothing else to do with your life but overthrow the faith of Christ's people. I would gladly demonstrate that only trinitarians are consistent Monotheists.

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These are spots in your love feasts…serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever (Jude 12-13).

thinker

Now, he wants to change the theme.

No deal.

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