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  • #389273
    GeneBalthrop
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    To All……Here is a list of LIES Which Satan and his teachers have placed in his Churches by order off importance, and there are many spinoffs from them, that have confused people in those churches.

    1…….. Jesus is a God

    2………Jesus preexisted his berth on this earth

    3………Jesus already had the Holy Spirit before he received it at the
    Jordan River

    4……… The Soul is a different Part of a Physical human being that
    Detaches from a man when he dies and remain still alive.

    Let him who has an ear hear and eyes to see , see.

    Peace and love to you all…………………………gene

    #389278
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2014,04:32)
    To All……Here is a list of LIES Which Satan and his teachers have placed in his Churches by order off importance, and there are many spinoffs from them, that have confused people in those churches.

    1…….. Jesus is a God

    2………Jesus preexisted his berth on this earth

    3………Jesus already had the Holy Spirit before he received it at the
              Jordan River

    4……… The Soul is a different Part of a Physical human being that
                Detaches from a man when he dies and remain still alive.

    Let him who has an ear hear and eyes to see , see.

    Peace and love to you all…………………………gene


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    1……… Jesus is a God

    JESUS IS THE WORD (SPEECH)(BREATH) OF GOD.

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    2………Jesus preexisted his berth on this earth

    GOD'S WORD WAS WITH GOD BEFORE CREATION.

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    3………Jesus already had the Holy Spirit before he received it at the Jordan River

    THE WORD OF GOD WAS MADE FLESH;THE HS IS ALWAYS
    BY HIM. HE WAS NEVER SEPERATED FROM THE HS.

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    4……… The Soul is a different Part of a Physical human being that Detaches from a man when he dies and remain still alive.

    THE ESSENSE OF A DEAD PERSON; HIS RECORD IS STORED UP FOR JUDGEMSNT DAY.
    THE HISTORY OF ALL HIS WORKS WILL BE JUDGED.

    ALL ROBBERS AND MURDERERS, TODAY ALSO HAVE THEIR WORKS(HISTORY) ON RECORD. THEY CAN NOT FIND A JOB.

    SATAN IS A LIER. BUT THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES ARE
    TEACHING LIES.THEY TEACH FOR MONEY.THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM.

    wakeup.

    #389306
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup…….So is the man Jesus a God to you. Do you believe as many do the man Jesus preexisted his berth on the earth as the creator God himself?

    Why can't you answer these statements clearly , why try to change them to the WORD, when I was talking about Jesus the man, not he WORD.

    Peace and love to you and yours………………..gene

    #389316
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2014,11:01)
    Wakeup…….So is the man Jesus a God to you. Do you believe as many do the man Jesus preexisted his berth on the earth as the creator God himself?

    Why can't you answer these statements clearly , why try to change them to the WORD, when I was talking about Jesus the man, not he WORD.

    Peace and love to you and yours………………..gene


    Gene.

    To say that the Word of God is God himself is not accurate.
    The word of God, is the Word of God,and will stay that way.
    He was with God in the beginning.
    The same was send down to earth,and made flesh.

    The man Jesus is when he was born out of a woman.
    His name was not Jesus in heaven.
    He was the Word that came down from heaven,to be seen by men.He is like God on earth;because He is the express image of His Father.

    God speaking through His own Word made flesh.

    wakeup.

    #389328
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup………..I know you are not realizing this but you are supporting Satan and his false teachings You have bought into his lies hook line and sinker.

    Jesus said for THOU (someone other then the person talking) ARE THE “ONLY” ( meaning NO OTHER) “TRUE ” GOD.

    WHAT PART OF THAT YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND !

    Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene

    #389331
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 20 2014,00:26)
    Wakeup………..I know you are not realizing this but you are supporting Satan and his false teachings   You have bought into his lies hook line and sinker.

    Jesus said for THOU (someone other then the person talking) ARE THE “ONLY” ( meaning NO OTHER) “TRUE ” GOD.

    WHAT PART OF THAT YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND !

    Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene


    John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

    John 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son,
    ***and sheweth him all things that himself doeth***:
    and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

    wakeup.

    #389348
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup……….What does Jesus say, it is the Father that is doing the Works NOt him, he is doing what the Father is telling him to Do,  Jesus himself never heald or raised a single soul, it was the Father who was “IN” HIM doing the WORK. Jesus also said that all that believed on him would do greater wporks the He did. But you moving Jesu away from your exact idenity,  in your mind would never truly believe that.  You probably do not even believe Jesus is your Brother, not you GOD, either, becasue Jesu said he had a GOd and He was the same God as ours is and said His Father is the same Father of us also.

    You have bought into the big Lie of ?satan which is a DOCTRINE OF SEPARATION taught by all of Satan's preachers. both here and in the world also.

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene

    #389356
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 20 2014,09:12)
    Wakeup……….What does Jesus say, it is the Father that is doing the Works NOt him, he is doing what the Father is telling him to Do,  Jesus himself never heald or raised a single soul, it was the Father who was “IN” HIM doing the WORK. Jesus also said that all that believed on him would do greater wporks the He did. But you moving Jesu away from your exact idenity,  in your mind would never truly believe that.  You probably do not even believe Jesus is your Brother, not you GOD, either, becasue Jesu said he had a GOd and He was the same God as ours is and said His Father is the same Father of us also.

    You have bought into the big Lie of ?satan which is a DOCTRINE OF SEPARATION taught by all of Satan's preachers. both here and in the world also.

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene


    gene.

    You can turn your word into print on paper,or on tape.
    Or even a book.
    God can do better than that.
    He can give his living Word life;and a form.
    He can also make him flesh.

    wakeup.

    #389364
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup……….You have never seen a flesh word or a word turned into flesh. Jesus said the words he told us are Spirit and life, but he never said they were flesh. He also said clearlt those word were NOT HIS WORDS.

    What do you do , do you just tare those scriptures out of your bible Wakeup?

    peace and love to you and yours…………………gene

    #389381
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 20 2014,13:16)
    Wakeup……….You have never seen a flesh word or a word turned into flesh. Jesus said the words he told us are Spirit and life, but he never said they were flesh. He also said clearlt those word were NOT HIS WORDS.

    What do you do , do you just tare those scriptures out of your bible Wakeup?

    peace and love to you and yours…………………gene


    Gene.

    I have just read your word on the screen.
    They are in the form of letters,and it contains a message.
    Your word has **made me** to get up of my sofa,
    to respond to it. It is the spirit in those words,
    that made me do it.

    Jesus's Word are printed on paper.(bible).
    Any one reading it will get the message,and *will* respond.
    The positively, or negatively.
    Because the *spirit* of that message is there.

    God did send His message (WORD) to earth;not by letter; but by *His LIVING WORD*.
    He is called Jesus; and He left His message to us in print.

    PS. 1. The natural, have natural flesh. (body).
    The spiritual, have spiritual flesh. (body).
    Angels flesh is spiritual flesh.

    2. Many have seen words turned into print.

    wakeup.

    #389388
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup………….For one thing you are not saying the word is a print or spirit you are saying the word is the person a man Jesus, making himself the word himself, but what did Jesus say about that, “the words i am telling you are “NOT” MY “WORDS” but the Words of HIM (GOD) who sent me.” tell us what part of that you refuse to believe wakeup? Did you see the “NOT MINE” PART, do you think Jesus was a Liar, You must or you would believe what he said about the Words and he disstinguised them from Him.

    I know Word are From Spirits and the Spiirt of GOd was IN Jesus, but that never made Him that Spirit that was in him, He recieved it at the Jordan River. The Word was “God' the only God and it was “IN” Jesus but the Word (GOD) also was in the Prophets and is in all that have his Sprit in them.

    You have moved a Man “JESUS” into a GOD in fact you are even stilling God the Fathers Glory by saying Jesus was the one who created everything. That is exactly what Satan wants people to do . I realize you do not understand this at this time, but perhaps some day.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………gene

    peace and love to you and yours………………..gene

    #389395
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2014,01:15)
    Wakeup………….For one thing you are not saying the word is a print or spirit you are saying the word is the person a man Jesus, making himself the word himself, but what did Jesus say about that, “the words i am telling you are “NOT” MY “WORDS” but the Words of HIM (GOD) who sent me.” tell us what part of that you refuse to believe wakeup? Did you see the “NOT MINE” PART, do you think Jesus was a Liar, You must or you would believe what he said about the Words and he disstinguised them from Him.

    I know Word are From Spirits and the Spiirt of GOd was IN Jesus, but that never made Him that Spirit that was in him, He recieved it at the Jordan River. The Word was “God' the only God and it was “IN” Jesus but the Word (GOD) also was in the Prophets and is in all that have his Sprit in them.

    You have moved a Man “JESUS” into a GOD in fact you are even stilling God the Fathers Glory by saying Jesus was the one who created everything. That is exactly what Satan wants people to do . I realize you do not understand this at this time, but perhaps some day.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………gene

    peace and love to you and yours………………..gene


    Gene.
    Don't deny God's own words speaking.

    Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith,
    ***And let all the angels of God worship him***.

    LET ALL THE ANGELS WORSHIP HIM:AND YET WE ARE TO WORSHIP ONLY ONE GOD, HOW COME?
    AND THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD,NOT TWO.

    Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

    GOD CALLED HIS SON *O' GOD*. WHY SO?
    BECAUSE HE ALSO IS THE WORD OF GOD HIMSELF.

    WE HAVE ONE GOD,AND ONE FATHER.
    AND WE WORSHIP ONE GOD;NOT TWO GOD'S.

    Your doctrine believe in a seperate created person,seperate
    from God. Only the spirit is one.
    Just as the prophets are seperate persons,but all with one spirit. This is how the world see's Jesus as.

    It should not be that way. God and his word are one God.
    ***I will not give my glory to another***.
    ***God's own words should not be ignored***.

    wakeup.

    #389399
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup………… Jesus Poseses the seven Spirit of of God and that is what Jesus will build his kingdom on and that is why it say “Thy Kingdom O God is and EVERLASTING KINGDOM,” becasue it is Gods Seven Spirits bringing it all about. Now after the thousand years of His rule are over what happens to that KINGDOM?, it is truned Back to GOD, and the Man Jesus becomes subject to it Just as all creation will be also.

    So when the MAN Jesus said “I am going to MY GOD “AND” YOUR GOD, My Father and YOUR FATHER,” is that just another scripture we should through out of our Bible, Becasue in you View Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY, and the FATHER all rolled up into ONE BEING, RIGHT? Trust me wakeup you are duped into believing the biggist LIE ever TOLD. Jesus is one of us, exactly the same as we are a pure HUMAN Being, who came into existence at just the right and appoint time, He is a SECOND Adam, a human creation By GOD. He is a Brother of all true believers also. Just as it say

    For he is the firstborn of “MANY” BRETHERN i realize you can not accept that, from you stand point, but none the less it is the truth, written in scriptures, for us all to see. Jesus is no God not now or ever was or ever will be. Not to Me anyway, I have a GOD, and it is the Same God He has. Come out of those false teachings that has decieved you Wakeup, while there is time.

    peace and love to you and yours…………..gene

    #389410
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2014,05:51)
    Wakeup………… Jesus Poseses the seven Spirit of of God and that is what Jesus will build his kingdom on and that is why it say “Thy Kingdom O God is and EVERLASTING KINGDOM, becasue it is Gods Seven Spirits bringing it all about. Now after the thousand years of His rull are over what nhappens to that KINGDOM?, it is truned Back to GOD, and the Man Jesus becomes subject to it Just as all creation will be also.

    So when the MAN Jesus said “I am going to MY GOD “AND” YOUR GOD, My Father and YOUR FATHER,” is that just another scripture we should through out of our Bible, Becasue in you View Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY and the FATHER all rolled up into ONE BEING RIGHT? Tryust me wakeup you are dupoed into believing the biggist LIE ever TOLD. Jesus is one of us exactly the same as we are a pure HUMAN Being who came into existence at just the right and appoint time, He is a SECOND ADAM a human creation By GOD. He is a Brother of all true believers also. Just as it say

    For he is the firstborn of “MANY” BRETHERN i realize you can not accept that from you stand point but none the less it is the truth written in scriptures for us all to see. Jesus is no God not now or ever was or ever will be. Not to Me I have a GOD and it is the Same God He has. Come out of those false teachings that has decieved you Wakeup, while there is time.

    peace and love to you and yours…………..gene


    Gene.

    You need to stamp on many scriptures to make up
    your own interpretation work. And yet, it will not work.
    Because the scriptures can not be broken.

    Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
    ***having seven horns; and seven eyes***,
    ***which are the seven Spirits of God***
    ***sent forth into all the earth***.

    1. The seven spirits have been sent into all the earth
    since the old testament.
    2. The Lamb has seven horns, and seven eyes.
    3. Which are the seven spirits of God.
    4. And you say the Lamb,is seperate from God?
    5. The seven horns can not be applied to the prophets, nor
    to the apostles. Only to the Word of God.

    Jesus is not created just to carry the word of God.
    Like the prophets and the apostles.
    JESUS is the Word of God.

    wakeup.

    #389476
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup…………Wrong again, what does scripture say?,   God who at sundary times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers (BY) the prophets, (2) Has in these last days spoken unto us (BY) a Son whom he has appointed hier of all things,………

    Point is Who SPOKE to us BY the Prothets, was it the prophets or GOD, and Who Spoke to us also was it the man Jesus or GOD who was “IN” Jsus just as He was “IN” the Prophets and the Apostles and in all who have His Spirit “IN” them.

    As i have told you wakeyp you have bought into the biggest Lie ever told sand that is that Jesus is a God, and that he preexisted his berth on this earth. You are rigth there in the crowd exactly where Satan want you to be, I ask you to come out of it and let the truth of God shine into you heart and open up your eyes. I like my brother Jesus are councling you to come out of this MYSTERIOUS RELIGION you are now in , unto the gloriious light of the Gospel of Truth.  

    peace and love to you and yours………………….gene

    #389487
    terraricca
    Participant

    why is Satan a liar ???

    according to the scriptures that is ; no opinions

    #389541
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terricca…….>Gen 3:3….> But of the tree which is in the midest of the garden, God has said, you shall not eat of it “neither” shall you touch it, “LEST YOU DIE”.   Now try to follw this Pierre. What did Satan say?

    Gen 3:4 ….. And the serpent said unto the women, (now pay attion Pierre) You shall “NOT” SURELY DIE

    What amazing Pierre is you people, also say a man does “truly” Die, because, his soul keep on living after his body is dead are on The Serpent's side it appears, If some of you guys were there, you would say the same thing he said “you shall not “SURELY” die” , becasue you Soul keeps on living after you die.

    Pierre not to even menation the other places in scriptures that call satan a decieve and if you don't understand what a deciever is , it is a LIAR.

    I could give you many scriptures that back up what i have said , but question is would you really believe them, i doubt it.

    peace and lvoe to you and yours……………………………gene

    #389542
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 21 2014,09:27)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2014,05:51)
    Wakeup………… Jesus Poseses the seven Spirit of of God and that is what Jesus will build his kingdom on and that is why it say “Thy Kingdom O God is and EVERLASTING KINGDOM, becasue it is Gods Seven Spirits bringing it all about. Now after the thousand years of His rull are over what nhappens to that KINGDOM?, it is truned Back to GOD, and the Man Jesus becomes subject to it Just as all creation will be also.

    So when the MAN Jesus said “I am going to MY GOD “AND” YOUR GOD, My Father and YOUR FATHER,” is that just another scripture we should through out of our Bible, Becasue in you View Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY and the FATHER all rolled up into ONE BEING RIGHT? Tryust me wakeup you are dupoed into believing the biggist LIE ever TOLD. Jesus is one of us exactly the same as we are a pure HUMAN Being who came into existence at just the right and appoint time, He is a SECOND ADAM a human creation By GOD. He is a Brother of all true believers also. Just as it say

    For he is the firstborn of “MANY” BRETHERN i realize you can not accept that from you stand point but none the less it is the truth written in scriptures for us all to see. Jesus is no God not now or ever was or ever will be. Not to Me I have a GOD and it is the Same God He has. Come out of those false teachings that has decieved you Wakeup, while there is time.

    peace and love to you and yours…………..gene


    Gene.

    You need to stamp on many scriptures to make up
    your own interpretation work. And yet, it will not work.
    Because the scriptures can not be broken.

     Revelation 5:6   And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
    ***having seven horns; and seven eyes***,
    ***which are the seven Spirits of God***
    ***sent forth into all the earth***.

    1.  The seven spirits have been sent into all the earth
        since the old testament.
    2. The Lamb has seven horns, and seven eyes.
    3. Which are the seven spirits of God.
    4. And you say the Lamb,is seperate from God?
    5. The seven horns can not be applied to the prophets, nor
       to  the apostles. Only to the Word of God.

    Jesus is not created just to carry the word of God.
    Like the prophets and the apostles.
    JESUS is the Word of God.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup……..You are the one STAMPING ON Many Scriptures to make your false DOCTRINES Stand not me. I have shown you the clear scriptures , you show me scriptures that can be taken many way and go against the clear scriptures I and others have Posted over and over.

    Remember this those who love not the truth God will send unto then a “DELUDING SPIRIT” in order for them to BELIEVE a LIE. If you believe Jesus is sitting in the temple of GOD and showing himself he is a GOD. You are then one of those Mentioned in 2ths2.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene

    #389543
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 22 2014,06:46)
    Terricca…….>Gen 3:3….> But of the tree which is in the midest of the garden, God has said, you shall not eat of it “neither” shall you touch it, “LEST YOU DIE”.   Now try to follw this Pierre. What did Satan say?

    Gen 3:4 ….. And the serpent said unto the women, (now pay attion Pierre) You shall “NOT” SURELY DIE

    What amazing Pierre is you people, that say a man does “truly” Die because, his soul keep on living after his body is dead are on The Serpent's side it appears, If some of you guys were there, you would say the same thing he said “you shall not “SURELY” die” , becasue you Soul keeps on living after you die.

    Pierre not to even menation the other places in scriptures that call satan a decieve and if you don't understand what a deciever is , it is a LIAR.

    I could give you many scriptures that back up what i have said , but question is would you really believe them, i doubt it.

    peace and lvoe to you and yours……………………………gene


    gene

    Satan is a liar because he opposed the truth of God

    #389555
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 22 2014,11:57)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 21 2014,09:27)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2014,05:51)
    Wakeup………… Jesus Poseses the seven Spirit of of God and that is what Jesus will build his kingdom on and that is why it say “Thy Kingdom O God is and EVERLASTING KINGDOM, becasue it is Gods Seven Spirits bringing it all about. Now after the thousand years of His rull are over what nhappens to that KINGDOM?, it is truned Back to GOD, and the Man Jesus becomes subject to it Just as all creation will be also.

    So when the MAN Jesus said “I am going to MY GOD “AND” YOUR GOD, My Father and YOUR FATHER,” is that just another scripture we should through out of our Bible, Becasue in you View Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY and the FATHER all rolled up into ONE BEING RIGHT? Tryust me wakeup you are dupoed into believing the biggist LIE ever TOLD. Jesus is one of us exactly the same as we are a pure HUMAN Being who came into existence at just the right and appoint time, He is a SECOND ADAM a human creation By GOD. He is a Brother of all true believers also. Just as it say

    For he is the firstborn of “MANY” BRETHERN i realize you can not accept that from you stand point but none the less it is the truth written in scriptures for us all to see. Jesus is no God not now or ever was or ever will be. Not to Me I have a GOD and it is the Same God He has. Come out of those false teachings that has decieved you Wakeup, while there is time.

    peace and love to you and yours…………..gene


    Gene.

    You need to stamp on many scriptures to make up
    your own interpretation work. And yet, it will not work.
    Because the scriptures can not be broken.

     Revelation 5:6   And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
    ***having seven horns; and seven eyes***,
    ***which are the seven Spirits of God***
    ***sent forth into all the earth***.

    1.  The seven spirits have been sent into all the earth
        since the old testament.
    2. The Lamb has seven horns, and seven eyes.
    3. Which are the seven spirits of God.
    4. And you say the Lamb,is seperate from God?
    5. The seven horns can not be applied to the prophets, nor
       to  the apostles. Only to the Word of God.

    Jesus is not created just to carry the word of God.
    Like the prophets and the apostles.
    JESUS is the Word of God.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup……..You are the one STAMPING ON Many Scriptures to make your false DOCTRINES Stand not me. I have shown you the clear scriptures , you show me scriptures that can be taken many way and go against the clear scriptures I and others have Posted over and over.

    Remember this those who love not the truth God will send unto then a “DELUDING SPIRIT” in order for them to BELIEVE a LIE. If you believe Jesus is sitting in the temple of GOD and showing himself he is a GOD. You are then one of those Mentioned in 2ths2.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene


    Gene.

    The Lamb is worshipped as God is worshipped.
    No other prophets nor apostles are worshipped.
    And God said: **I will not give my glory to another**.
    If you can not see this;it's because the spirit in you, can not connect with the spirit of scriptures.

    Revelation 5:8
    ***And when he had taken the book***,
    ***the four beasts and four and twenty elders***
    ***fell down before the Lamb***,
    ***having every one of them harps***,
    ***and golden vials full of odours***,
    ***which are the prayers of saints***.

    Revelation 5:12
    ***Saying with a loud voice***,
    ***Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power***, ***and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour***, ***and glory, and blessing***.

    Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them,
    ***heard I saying, Blessing***,
    ***and honour, and glory, and power***,
    ***be unto him that sitteth upon the throne***,
    ***and unto the Lamb for ever and ever***.

    wakeup.

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