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- January 7, 2016 at 6:16 am#807069NickHassanParticipant
Hi GB,
Yes we love the truth.
That is why we have to test your offerings.
We have found them dubious and only loosely related to what is written.
January 7, 2016 at 11:07 am#807081GeneBalthropParticipantNick….please do search scriptures, we should all do that, that is why i know somethings you say are not in line with scriptures. I could make a list for you if you like? But tell us, do you find what i have said on this subject inline with the scriptures or not ? Or is it just the spirit that works in you, still trying to give berth to doubt on this subject also?
peace and love to you and yours………gene
January 7, 2016 at 11:35 am#807084NickHassanParticipantHi GB.
Let it go.
Clinging to and defending your doctrine proves it is just of you.
January 7, 2016 at 3:32 pm#807089princessParticipantKerwin,
personally I understood what you wrote the first time:) find you enlightening!
January 7, 2016 at 3:43 pm#807090princessParticipantBut truth is truth no matter who say it.
as long as you understand the language Gene.
and don’t let Nick get to you, he has built his city and has no future plans on expanding it.
January 8, 2016 at 4:26 am#807101GeneBalthropParticipantPrincess….I offer Nick to disprove what I have written on this subject, seeing he is a skeptic, but he give nothing, on the subject, but turns and attacks my person and character, trying to descredit me and my given understanding of this subject. He serves only one purpose here and that is to cause “doubtful disputations”. What I have posted on this subject should cause rejoicing, by all who have the love of the truth in them. That is why i ask him , if he believed it or not, but he deverts , and tries to make this about me personally and not about what i have written, trying to descredit me and thereby what i have written.
The spirit that works in him causes disputations and contintions between the brethern, he mixes truths with falsehood, he accuses people of not going by scriptures, but i can list many things he has said that are not even mentioned in scriptures and things he concludes that is not written nor even implied either. He sit in his high tower taking potshots at people by attaching there character. Not realizing he is not a bit different, then any of us.
peace and love to you and yours …………gene
January 8, 2016 at 4:39 am#807102GeneBalthropParticipantNick….It is not about me, it is about what i have written on this subject, i have shared what i believe i have been given, which should cause rejoicing in all those who truly love the truth. Not giving me any glory or praise i could care less about that, it should be only about the truth , GOD KNOWS MY HEART and YOURS, let him JUDGE. IMO
peace and love to you and yours ……….gene
January 8, 2016 at 6:28 am#807104NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
I see.
Everyone else has the problem.
January 8, 2016 at 10:12 am#807108GeneBalthropParticipantNick….i see no one here going around slamming peoples character but you. Look no one has ALL THE TRUTH, Paul said we see in PART, as looking through an obscured glass. Come on if you see something wrong with what one of us say, then be specific to the point of what was said, and if you disagree then show, how you see it, you may be right and the person who posted it wrong, but buy kindly intreating that person and explain your “PERCEPTION” YOU MAY BE HELPING A Brother or Sister. But slaming his or her character only puts that person on the defensive, it produces no gain, only discord. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……….gene
January 8, 2016 at 10:28 am#807111NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Why do you feel personally attacked?
It is only your weak dogmas that are found faulty.
January 9, 2016 at 1:43 am#807136princessParticipantGene,
I understand. I have seen some leave the board because of his post genre. It seems he wants people to think and discover for themselves and he just throws a few words out and is done, I agree he has no follow through but …. it is who he is. Once we begin to understand then we move on from it.
There are ones that walk, talk and breathe their faith, you are one of them. So your passion and love you have will seem like the person is attacking you. Nick has that iron sharpens iron thing going on. Maybe having a ‘catch phrase’ to answer him would help you. You cannot change him but you can change how you respond to him.
and whatever it may be do it out of love keep it pure. not one of us know everything, that is why we have life to discover and search for it. the time you take to be frustrated is wasted and is not needed in your life. be happy know what you know discover more each day. it’s not theirs Gene, it’s yours.
January 9, 2016 at 5:35 am#807137GeneBalthropParticipantPrincess…..Good points, but when a person criticises what a another says ON A SUBJECT, and offeres not explanation why or what the person has said that he or she find fault with, that to me shows the corrupt nature of that person. It’s fine to disagree with what a person has posted, but at least have the decency to explain and give the person a chance to clarify what he or she said. NO NEED to attack his or her SPITITUALITY OR CHARACTER. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………..gene
January 9, 2016 at 11:56 am#807147NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Are you able to judge the corrupt nature of people who do not reply as you would like?
What other supernatural abilities do you have.
Love perhaps?
January 9, 2016 at 12:16 pm#807149GeneBalthropParticipantNick….i can judge the spirit that are working in that person, by their own words, and tell if they are of God or not, just as it says, “YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THIR FRUITS”. The fruit from your mouth gives you away, you can’t hide from it, though you may want to. A person whose words are accusitory and attack his or her charater, and spirituality as you do, is not of GOD. YOU CREATE DOUBT and mistrust, you are not, by doing that edifying the body of christ, you sow discourse among the brethern doing that. I realize you probably fail to see this NICK, but none the less i believe it to be true.
peace and love to you and yours ……..gene
January 9, 2016 at 12:29 pm#807150NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
You would put yourself in the place of God as judge?
brave stuff.
January 10, 2016 at 3:29 am#807157GeneBalthropParticipantNick….1 John 4 :1 … BELOVED believe not every spirit, but try the spirits wrether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Those of the spirit know the sound of the spirit. They will not follow another master. IMO
peace and love to you and yours ………..gene
January 10, 2016 at 1:14 pm#807172princessParticipantLove is the greatest of them all………..
January 10, 2016 at 6:24 pm#807177AndrewADParticipantDear Gene,
Maybe you are the “oh wise one” who is wise in his own eyes. You say even the authors of these scriptures were ignorant of what they were writing while you have figured out what “the spirit” really meant. You make Christ out to be the man of sin or antichrist which the author of 2 Thess clearly never intended.
Are you really the “image of Christ”? are you just like him? born of a virgin? raising the dead and healing the sick? I highly doubt you are and I don’t pretend to be either.You are so petty like many JW’s I have met that think Jehovah needs human defense against his own son whom he exalted according to the bible you worship.
January 11, 2016 at 4:43 am#807182GeneBalthropParticipantAndrewAD…first place i have never said JESUS “HIMSELF” WAS THE MAN OF SIN, So lets get this clear ok, what i said the “FALSE IMAGE” OF HIM BEING A “GOD” WAS. NOW ARE WE CLEAR ON THAT? I don’t know if you believe Jesus is a GOD or not, but i assume you do by your response.
There is only one human being who is sitting in the temple of God being desplayed as a God, which breakes the first commandment “thou shall have no other God beside me” that person is Jesus . Tell me do you know any other human that is sitting in the temple an being worshipped as a God? Please tell me if you do. I ALSO BELIEVE the apostle Paul may not have completely realized who that person was going to be because he said it was a mysterious iniquity, but he know it was going to come from the fallen or apostate church and would take place at a latter date. Jesus was not declared a GOD UNTILL THE COUNCIL OF NACIA IN 325 AD , when the pagan Emperior Constantine pronounced JESUS AS A GOD THATS IS WHEN IT FINALY APPEARED IN ALL CHURCHES. IT all fits if you study what PAUL actually said AndrewAD.
peace and love to you and yours ………gene
January 11, 2016 at 8:40 am#807185GeneBalthropParticipantAndrewAD….Also the reason ihave described i as the “DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION” , is because that is exactly what the teaching of Jesus being a God, does it moves Jesus Away from being a human being to a God, and causes us to become seperated from his human idenity with us. THAT IS WHAT WAS BEHIND THAT TEACHING, Satan does not want us to believe we can atain to the full stature of JESUS. JUST look at you last post to me , so you see it worked on you, now multiply that by about a billion christans and you can see how effective that TEACHING REALLY IS. REMEMBER scripture says about us
Eph 4:13.. Till we “all” come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the son of God, unto a “PERFECT” man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of CHRIST.
NOW hear the words of Jesus himself ok.
Joh 14:12…Verily, verly, i say unto you, He that believes onme, the works that i do shall he do also; AND GREATER WORKS THAN THESE SHALL HE DO; because i go unto my Father.
AndrewAD…..why do you not believe Jesus, is it because in your mind he is not like you, has the doctrine of Satan moved Jesus away from you identifying with him as a brother in the family of God, and if so what teaching caused you to think that way, don’t fell bad, because that is exactly what nearly all of Christanity has, it is exactly what Satan wants all seeking God the father to think , that Jesus is not really like them, that they don’t ever have a chance to ever become as he is, do you begin to get the picture AndrewAd?
Also read where this comes by the working of Satan the devil. Through Lying wonders, and those who recieve love not the truth, God will send them a strong delusion in order for them to “believe” a LIE, what LIE , that JESUS IS A GOD, and because they truly believe he is a God they will Worship him AS A GOD. WHO IS NOW DOING THAT ?
peace and love to you and yours ……….gene
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