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Hi NH,
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son.
1 John 2:22Hi DD,
I have never doubted that Jesus was a normal human being.
Found clean he was filled with the Spirit of anointing at the Jordan
Hi DD,
But you seem to claim he was some sort of god.
Gods are not normal human beings. Humans are not gods.
They are not conceived and born and then named and anointed are they?
Hi DD,
If Jesus Christ came as a real human being how does that relate?
Are we not all real human beings?
Hi DD,
Looked at simplistically there is nothing to it.
You say it means he was a real human being and I agree.
Do you think it could have deeper meanings?
Hi DD,
But you say on the one hand he was a god and on the other he was a normal human being.
Can you follow a god?
Perhaps the anointing on the man is the real issue.
The Spirit that spoke and worked through him.
Natural people keep ascribing the the man the words and works of the Spirit.
Perhaps the history belongs too to the Spirit on him?
Danny Dabbs,
Hi!
I believe Jesus was the word, a god. (John 1:1) God’s very first creation. (Revelation 3:14)
His beloved Son.Koin Greek does not have an indefinite article so they would the idea of he is a human as he is human so the words of John 1:1 actually fit that interpretation if you Christ was the word before the word was made flesh. There is no evidence to support that conclusion. It also does not disprove other hypothesis.
My hypothesis is based on the teaching of Jews that are themselves based on Scripture. That is that spoke the Logos and there was light. In this way the Logos was with God in the beginning just as Scripture testifier.
The same Logos is divine which is why John wrote the word is God. This qualitative sense of the word theos, translated God, has been known over 2000 years since Philo of Alexandria wrote of it in his writings.
An Orthodox Bible Commentary notes: “This second theos could also be translated ‘divine’ as the construction indicates “a qualitative sense for theos”. The Word is not God in the sense that he is the same person as the theos mentioned in 1:1a; he is not God the Father (God absolutely as in common NT usage) or the Trinity.
The commentary goes on to spin it in a Trinitarian interpretation which I disagree with but the first part is true. They disagree with me on the meaning of the word and the quality of divinity attributed to the word. Never the less they like me call the word that comes out of God’s mouth divine.
While I can prove beyond doubt that the word that comes out of God’s mouth was there at creation none of those that assume the would was a Christ being can prove that any such being was there to create all things that are created. The largest flaw in my argument is that there is too much evidence supporting it.
Nick and Danny Dabbs,
Jimi Hendrix is a human being, though dead.
Jimi Hendrix is the god of guitars.Americans believe both statements are true because Jimi Hendix excelled at playing the guitar.
The word that comes out of God mouth is a thing with superhuman attributes and power according to Scripture. In short it is a god.
Hi DD,
It is as if you are saying that I know you are wrong and I am right
but I can’t quite put my finger on it so tick these boxes for me so I can condemn you.
Dear Terra
“Nick and gene and kerwin are lost in their own views ,for they all believe what the scriptures do not say,or teaches ,they will argue that it is you that do not understand a thing but they could not come with scriptures to prove them right ,look at the scriptures they provide none or few ,
but lots of mouth wash ,and religion stuff ,
I shown them scriptures ,pages they would not believe what is written unless they change it to their own understanding ,
they don’t even believe Christ was and is the true and only begotten son of God almighty created at the start of creation as Colossian 1;15-21 says
and John 1;14those scriptures are pasted through their sives to be approved ;like God words are not good but need their approval ,folly”
Oh thank goodness that someone here can see their silliness and plain scripture twisting and outright denial of what they claim to worship;which as you say is only in order to serve their own religious bile/mouthwash.
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