Satan is in the lake of fire

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,10:33)

Hi BD, These foreign words are not spiritually relevant. They are of your god. Not our God.

There is no God but God. Do you believe that Gabriel is a false messenger?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Which Gabriel?
O the one you say spoke falsehoods to your leader?
Yep

There are false Jesus's too.[2Cor11]

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick……..The adverbial Spirit (intellect) in Jesus himself was the devil in Him that He put to death. He overcame His own adversarial nature, as well as that of the world, that we all have at times, not just some separate Being external of Him. We must overcome as He did (he overcame himself) as well as the world, so must we exactly like he did, putting  own wills to death and submitting to the Will of the ONE and ONLY GOD.  The battle is not just external it is internal in Us, WE must with GOD'S help master our own selves as Jesus did. There is adversarial Spirit (intellect) in the world and can be in us also, but there is Spirit (intellect) of GOD that can be in us also. GOD is greater then that, thats is in the world. So we can master the world and ourselves with that MIND or Spirit Intellect. IMO

gene

[NickHassan]

Hi,
There must be some pages missing from our bibles because this stuff is not in there – either that or you make it up as you go along.
So can these adversarial spirits communicate and cause mischief?
Does Satan fight against himself?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,12:02)

Hi BD, Which Gabriel? O the one you say spoke falsehoods to your leader? Yep There are false Jesus's too.[2Cor11]

You speak great sin and blaspheme against a Holy Angel.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
No.
You have been greatly deceived.
The Spirit of God is not corrected by any so called angel.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,15:50)

Hi BD, No. You have been greatly deceived. The Spirit of God is not corrected by any so called angel.

No angels don't correct God, they carry out his will.

Nick you said that you believe that Jesus abrogated the laws that were handed down from Moses, right? You believe that God has accepted the gentiles without them accepting the Jewish Law, right? In-fact Nick you believe in a New Covenant and yet you have great disdain for anything newer but can you show me one single verse in the bible that says no more messengers will be sent?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
You really think you are taught by the angel Gabriel?
Wake up and see the continuing rebellion by he who can appear as an angel of light.

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,14:40)

Hi, There must be some pages missing from our bibles because this stuff is not in there – either that or you make it up as you go along. So can these adversarial spirits communicate and cause mischief? Does Satan fight against himself?

Nick………The very word (SATAN) means ADVERSARY , Jesus called Peter SATAN do you think He meant Peter was the real SATAN Being of some KIND, no Peter was exhibiting a adversarial (satan) Spirit (intellect). Just that simple , but you and others are of the mindset of the MYSTERY RELIGIONS and can't understand that , it's simple to those who Have the truth of GOD in them. No (mystery being) going around jumping in and out of people. So my question to you is how do you understand the subject of devils and demons, is it through the eyes of Mystery Religions and spooks or boogie men, effecting control over people, at will, pure unscriptural and flooish also. GOD did not give some being power to control people at will. This is a Lie taught by false teachers of MYSTERY RELIGIONS there is nothing in scripture that supports that a so-called devil (BEING) goes around controlling anyone. There is adversarial (SPIRIT)INTELLECT not a Person or Being at all, Just Spirit (intellect) causing it all, no being of any kind. You lack of understanding of what SPIRIT really is, is a major stumbling block in you understanding. IMO

gene

[NickHassan]

G,
So when Jesus spoke to the adversary in the vessel Peter did you think he was speaking with Peter?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Gene @ Oct. 26 2009,06:55)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,14:40) Hi, There must be some pages missing from our bibles because this stuff is not in there – either that or you make it up as you go along. So can these adversarial spirits communicate and cause mischief? Does Satan fight against himself? Nick………The very word (SATAN) means ADVERSARY , Jesus called Peter SATAN do you think He meant Peter was the real SATAN Being of some KIND, no Peter was exhibiting a adversarial (satan) Spirit (intellect). Just that simple , but you and others are of the mindset of the MYSTERY RELIGIONS and can't understand that , it's simple to those who Have the truth of GOD in them. No (mystery being) going around jumping in and out of people. So my question to you is how do you understand the subject of devils and demons, is it through the eyes of Mystery Religions and spooks or boogie men, effecting control over people, at will,  pure   unscriptural and flooish also. GOD did not give some being power to control people at will. This is a Lie taught by false teachers of MYSTERY RELIGIONS there is nothing in scripture that supports that a so-called devil (BEING) goes around controlling anyone.  There is adversarial (SPIRIT)INTELLECT not a Person or Being at all, Just Spirit (intellect) causing it all, no being of any kind. You lack of understanding of what SPIRIT really is, is a major stumbling block in you understanding.  IMO gene

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Luke 10:17-19

[GeneBalthrop]

DB…….What he beheld was and (ADVERSARIAL) Spirit fall from His mind, The word Lightning means suddenly, quickly fall, from his mind. Heaven is not Just up in the skies as some suppose, but that is also another subject. What was tempting Jesus in the wilderness was no a separate being of some kind it was the adversarial nature in us all and Jesus mastered it, by the word of GOD , and it fell like lighting from Him and it left him. When are you people going to see things through Spiritual eyes instead of everything through Physical eyes. If you are going to take everything in scripture literially and physically then Peter was who Jesus saw fall as lighting from heaven right after he did say He was Satan or maybe it was Judas, or some of the Pharisees. There is (NO) literial devil Person or being , there is only a Spirit (intellect) that creates an adversarial mindset in people. God can remove that mindset we recieved from the world suddenly as he did Jesus. IMO

gene

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Gene @ Oct. 26 2009,08:08)

DB…….What he beheld was and (ADVERSARIAL) Spirit fall from His mind, The word Lightning means suddenly, quickly fall, from his mind. Heaven is not Just up in the skies as some suppose, but that is also another subject.  What was tempting Jesus in the wilderness was no a separate being of some kind it was the adversarial nature in us all and Jesus mastered it, by the word of GOD , and it fell like lighting from Him and it left him. When are you people going to see things through Spiritual eyes instead of everything through Physical eyes. If you are going to take everything in scripture literially and physically then Peter was who Jesus saw fall as lighting from heaven right after he did say He was Satan or maybe it was Judas, or some of the Pharisees. There is (NO) literial devil Person or being , there is only a Spirit (intellect) that creates an adversarial mindset in people.  God can remove that mindset we recieved from the world suddenly as he did Jesus.   IMO gene

But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
Revelation 2:23-25 (in Context)

It does not matter to me how you view Satan because it is Sin that you must master and overcome so I will put no burden on you either.

[GeneBalthrop]

DB……….The depth of Satan is all the false teachings about a pagan being going around jumping in and out of you. Why do you think it says the Depth of Satan (AS) (THEY) SPEAK). They had their false teaching even then as they still do now. Anyone can be a satan, devil, simply by being in apposition to GOD'S work. Teaching that there is a (BEING) going around as an individual Satan is a false teaching. IMO

gene

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,11:27)

Hi BD, Desperate to establish the appearance of authenticity? You will still be doing so when the King comes back to his earthly rule.

Nick,
Where does the Bible speak about an “earthly rule?” Paul said that the when the Lord descends that the dead would be raised and the living would be caught up and meet the Lord “in the clouds”, that is, the sky (1 Thess. 4). According to Matthew's account Jesus said that they would see the sign of the Son of Man “in heaven” (the sky).

There is not one scripture which says that He would descend all the way to the earth. Not one!

No earthly rule Nick!

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
He will rule from the seat of David in Jerusalem.
This is not allegory.

[GeneBalthrop]

Thimker…..Deu 33:2…..> And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Sier unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.

Jud 1:14 …> And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his saint, to execute judgement upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds, which they have ungodly commuted, and of all their Hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

gene

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Gene @ Oct. 26 2009,10:21)

DB……….The depth of Satan is all the false teachings about a pagan being going around jumping in and out of you. Why do you think it says the Depth of Satan (AS) (THEY) SPEAK). They had their false teaching even then as they still do now. Anyone can be a satan, devil, simply by being in apposition to GOD'S work.  Teaching that there is a (BEING) going around as an individual Satan is a false teaching. IMO gene

Jesus says he was talking to unclean spirits in the people and the unclean spirits answered.

besides you never answerd me who is the “prince of devils” spoken about?

But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
Matthew 12:23-25

And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
Matthew 12:26-28

Who is the prince of the power of the air?

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Ephesians 2:1-3

Now just tolet you know Beelzebub roughly translates to the prince of the air mistakenly often translated as Lord of the flies this is because he is a roving spirit and unclean spirits are his cohorts.

And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job 1:6-8

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:[/B]
1 Peter 5:7-9

Can you tell me why God is talking to “Intellect” and how does it answer back?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 26 2009,10:50)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,11:27) Hi BD, Desperate to establish the appearance of authenticity? You will still be doing so when the King comes back to his earthly rule. Nick, Where does the Bible speak about an “earthly rule?” Paul said that the when the Lord descends that the dead would be raised and the living would be caught up and meet the Lord “in the clouds”, that is, the sky (1 Thess. 4). According to Matthew's account Jesus said that they would see the sign of the Son of Man “in heaven” (the sky). There is not one scripture which says that He would descend all the way to the earth. Not one! No earthly rule Nick! thinker

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Revelation 1:6-8

If every eye saw him in 70 AD why is his rulership in dispute the scripture says:

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Revelation 19:14-16

Is that the way it is today?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 26 2009,10:50)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,11:27) Hi BD, Desperate to establish the appearance of authenticity? You will still be doing so when the King comes back to his earthly rule. Nick, Where does the Bible speak about an “earthly rule?” Paul said that the when the Lord descends that the dead would be raised and the living would be caught up and meet the Lord “in the clouds”, that is, the sky (1 Thess. 4). According to Matthew's account Jesus said that they would see the sign of the Son of Man “in heaven” (the sky). There is not one scripture which says that He would descend all the way to the earth. Not one! No earthly rule Nick! thinker

Revelation 21
1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Now you can see that I have shown you through the scriptures that what you have been thinking is not correct(according to the scriptures)

BTW, there are no less than 70 “seas” so they would not exist if you were correct but climate change may fix that soon enough but for right now the seas still remain

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