Satan is in the lake of fire

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  • #163905
    942767
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    Hi Nick:

    Actually, the scripture reads as follows:

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    Rom 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you. Amen

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #163960
    banana
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    Quote (Gene @ Nov. 08 2009,15:21)
    DB……..your making a demon  or devil a being, when it is not it is a Spirit (intellect) mental condition effecting him . Some are worse then others . The man did have an (adversarial ) spirit in his mind but not some being of some kind as false pagan religions teach. Again because you do not KNOW what SPIRIT (means) you are caught up in the false teaching of devils and demons as all pagan religions are.
    You or no one else has ever (seen) a spirit (BEING) because there is only (ONE) SPIRIT BEING and that is GOD. You might have seen a being that has Spirit (intellect) in him. Rather good or evil or clean or unclean, but you never have seen a SPIRIT (intellect). Because you cannot see spirit or (INTELLECT). You can only see its effects produced in a body of some kind. IMO

    peace to you…………….gene


    Gene

    I don't know who or what you are, but I can say one thing with certainty, YOU ARE CALLING GOD A LIAR.

    Job 1:6 ¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

    Job 38:4 ¶ Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
    Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

    Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
    Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

    Rev 12:7 ¶ And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
    Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
    Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    There are more scriptures of course.
    You deny the word of God, you deny God, it's just that simple.

    Georg

    #192625
    KangarooJack
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    Nick said to Kangaroo Jack:

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    Hi TT/KJ,
    Satan is in the lake of fire?
    Then who is causing all the mischief?

    Kangaroo Jack replied:

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    Have you not read James? He said that wars and fightings come from our desire for pleasure that is in our members (James 4)

    KJ


    ATTENTION ALL: The Bible CLEARLY says that satan has been cast into the lake of fire! Man is the SOLE cause of all mischief now.

    Jack

    #192629
    NickHassan
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    Hi Kj,
    So you say.
    But your statements lack veracity.

    #192635
    chosenone
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    Explaining John12:31-36…

    .'Now is the judging of this world” suggests that God was, at that time, about to judge mankind. But He did not. Judgment still waits. It is the world that was doing the judging. This is confirmed by the same form of the word in “the judging of Gehenna” (Mt.23:33), “the just judging of God” (2Th.1:5). See also Rev.14:7, 16:7, 18:10, 19:2. The world would hardly judge Satan, so the Chief here spoken of must be Christ Himself. This title is used again in 14:30 and 16:11, where further evidence is given that our Lord is speaking of Himself. The judging is His exaltation on the cross, for it was a reference to the manner of His death. So it was that the throng understood the term. We should not give one of His titles to Satan. Christ is the world's Chief.

    Copied from the Concordant Publishing Concern.

    Blessings.

    #192644
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2010,05:36)
    Hi Kj,
    So you say.
    But your statements lack veracity.


    Nick,

    Please explain Romans 16:20,

    “And the God of peace shall crush satan under your feet shortly.”

    Did Paul not say that satan would be crushed under THEIR feet? Did he not say that it would happen SHORTLY?

    Was Paul a false prophet Nick?

    roo

    #192649
    NickHassan
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    Hi KJ,
    Indeed satan is crushed under our feet daily.
    His dominion shrinks with every prayer against his power.
    Against the body of Christ and God's Word and Spirit he is helpless to resist.

    #192653
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2010,08:10)
    Hi KJ,
    Indeed satan is crushed under our feet daily.
    His dominion shrinks with every prayer against his power.
    Against the body of Christ and God's Word and Spirit he is helpless to resist.


    Ha! The Greek word for “crushed” means “to be broken in pieces”. You are saying that satan is broken in pieces daily?

    Paul said that it would happen under the feet of the Roman Christians. So it it had to be fulfilled in THEIR time or else Paul was a false prophet.

    roo

    #192661
    NickHassan
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    Hi KJ,
    Yes since Pentecost that dominion has been crushed daily under the feet of those in Jesus.
    But it flourishes among the deceived.

    #192666
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KJ,
    Jesus explained how the dominion of darkness is organised and how it is overcome in Lk 10-11.
    You are unlikely to meet him but can join in overcoming him.

    #192669
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2010,09:15)
    Hi KJ,
    Yes since Pentecost that dominion has been crushed daily under the feet of those in Jesus.
    But it flourishes among the deceived.


    Chapter and verse please.

    roo

    #192671
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2010,09:22)
    Hi KJ,
    Jesus explained how the dominion of darkness is organised and how it is overcome in Lk 10-11.
    You are unlikely to meet him but can join in overcoming him.


    Yes and and Luke 10-11 also indicate the timing of the demise of satan's kingdom. It certainly was not to occur over 2,000 years later.

    roo

    #192687
    NickHassan
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    Hi KJ,
    Working from theory alone must be very draining.
    Why not get to know God and His son.

    #192688
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2010,10:33)
    Hi KJ,
    Working from theory alone must be very draining.
    Why not get to know God and His son.


    Nick,

    You said that the kingdom of satan is crushed “daily.” The word “crushed” means “to break into pieces”. Show from scripture that satan's kingdom is broken to pieces daily.

    roo

    #192690
    NickHassan
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    Hi KJ,
    Indeed.
    What is your problem?
    Too much theory and not enough knowledge?

    #192702
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2010,10:55)
    Hi KJ,
    Indeed.
    What is your problem?
    Too much theory and not enough knowledge?


    The theory is all yours Nick. I am still waiting for you to produce a scripture which says that satan is crushed “daily”. And I am still waiting for you to produce a scripture which says that satan is crushed under our feet when Paul explicitly said that satan would be crushed under THEIR feet (the Christians in Paul's own time).

    roo

    #192743
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KJ,
    You have no understanding of the dominion of darkness.
    Study Lk11.

    Satan, the being, is not crushed under hundreds of feet since the time of Jesus.
    But his satans are as men are set free.

    #192745
    kerwin
    Participant

    Kangaroo Jack,

    So you hypothosize that Romans 16:20 is to be interpreted litteral and not figuratively even though a litteral interpretation brings it in conflict with the teaching that Satan will be bound for a thousand years among others.

    Have you tested your hypothosis against scripture?

    I have my doubts as many scriptures disprove it.

    The King of demons is still free and outside the lake of fire.

    In hearing the passage it sounds to me as if Paul is speaking to the Romans about being fully mature in the Anointed One. Even then it was most likely addressed to the church in general and not anyone in particular. It was quite a compliment.

    #192746
    NickHassan
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    Hi KJ,
    Scripture is true and your ideas fallacious.
    When you can see the kingdom it will be plain to all of us.

    #192757
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    To All………A Satan is anyone who has an adversarial Spirit (intellect) working (IN) him. There is (NO) Being called Satan, There is (NO) Literal LAKE of FIRE either. These are all products of voodoo religions. Simply Put< The adversarial (Satan) Spirits (Intellects)will be destroyed by the Intense Judgements of GOD (who is the consuming fire) OR LAKE OF FIRE. There is no such thing as a SATAN (BEING) as such Only Adversarial beings and the can be GOD, angles or Man. The word Satan is a Metaphor for a Spirit (intellect)of an adversary and can be anyone. Jodi lee has just explained it clearly. We are supposed to come out of these false teachings. IMO

    peace and love to you all……………….gene

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