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Quote (chosenone @ May 06 2009,01:09) Hi kerwin. This is off the topic, just a question of operating this website. When replying to a previous post, how do you get to put a cetain part of a sentence in the 'quote box', then give your answer, then repeat this sequence by puting another part in the 'quote box, and repying to that quote?
I have not been able to figure this out, I would be thankful for your help.Blessings, Jerry.
I manually type out the name of the person plus “wrote:” and then put the word “quote” in brakets[]. After that place the passage you cite and then place the word “/quote” in brackets. You can use the quote command for both the quote commands if you are careful since it alternates commands. I find it easier to write it out. Nick Hassan or others may know more than me. I have not figured out how to do the date and time stamp yet.
I hope this helps you and I am glad to be of assistance.
Quote (chosenone @ May 06 2009,22:59) Thanks kerwin, I'll study your method and practice how to use it, much appreciated. Blessings.
You are welcome.Our salvation is not out of ourselves. We do not possess it because we have done this or that in order to acquire it. Consequently, boasting is debarred (Rom.3:27). This is because we are God’s achievement. “For His achievement are we” (Eph.2: 10a). We are saved because we are God’s achievement. It is just that simple and this is fully the truth. The word “achievement,” is poiêma (DO-effect). We are the product of God’s doings. It is only unbelief that will seek to modify this or to explain it away. This unbelief is due to the deceptive influences of the worldly philosophy known as free will. We do not care for the fact that we ourselves, who effect much evil and some good, are the product of God’s own doings.
Blessings.
What does God mean when he speaks to His servants to say “save yourself(ves)?
Ezekiel 33:9(NIV) reads:
Quote But if you do warn the wicked man to turn from his ways and he does not do so, he will die for his sin, but you will have saved yourself.
and
Acts 2:40-41(NIV) reads:
Quote With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
and
1 Timothy 4:16(NIV) reads:
Quote Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.
Quote (kerwin @ May 10 2009,21:07) What does God mean when he speaks to His servants to say “save yourself(ves)? Ezekiel 33:9(NIV) reads:
Quote But if you do warn the wicked man to turn from his ways and he does not do so, he will die for his sin, but you will have saved yourself.
and
Acts 2:40-41(NIV) reads:
Quote With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
and
1 Timothy 4:16(NIV) reads:
Quote Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.
kerwinEzekiel is using the watchman on the wall as an example, he is in charge for the safety of the people inside. If he fails to warn the people of upcoming danger, the blood of the killed is on his hands. If however he warns the people, and they ignore the warning, then the blood of the killed is on their hands, meaning, the watchman will not be held responsible, he has saved himself from judgment.
Peter and Paul give us the spiritual aspect of this; those that have been given an understanding of the Word, as the apostles for instant, have a responsibility to warn the people with the truth they have received, if they ignore to do so, they will be held accountable, if they have done their job, they have saved themselves from judgment.
The same goes for the people that hear the message, if they believe and repent, they have saved themselves. But you have to stay in the truth, watch your life closely, only then will you preserve it.Georg
Kerwin……….Chosenone is right IMO…………..Ezekiel is just telling them they can be saved from there physical predicament at that time, He was not talking about eternal life under the new covenant , They were still under the covenant given in FEAR, but this is not discussing the process of eternal salvation. your mixing them up, you can not disregard all the other scriptures that describe the process of salvation and who does the saving, and the word of Jesus who said it is impossible to come to him unless GOD Draw a person. Chosenone is right you ideology of the SO-Called (FREE WILL) is makes your salvation a matter of coming from the SELF. This is also what Nick does with His fear and trembling teachings. It cause you and him to be confused about the process of our salvation. AS clearly stated in many scriptures. YOU should not disregard them. IMO
peace and love…………………………..gene
Gene wrote:
Quote Ezekiel is just telling them they can be saved from there physical predicament at that time, He was not talking about eternal life under the new covenant ,
Do you really believe what you are saying? God is telling Ezekiel that is the Watchman's job to give warning to the people and if he chooses not to do so then he will be held accountable. It does not care if the danger is physical or spiritual.
There was eternal life under the old covenant and Ezekiel would have been referring to that and not the new covenant though it still is true of the new covenant.
Peter was certainly not warning about the physical predicament as he was preaching the gospel which is not about the “physical predicament” but is about spiritual health.
Paul in his letter to Timothy was also not speaking about the “physical predicament” since he was speaking about holding to the true doctrine of Christ which is not about one's “physical predicament”.
You have me confused as if you seem to be saying that we have free choice when it is about physical choices but not when it is about spiritual choices. Is that what you meant by what you wrote?
Kerwin…….Why do you egnore all the other scriptures that say Salvation is a (GIFT) of GOD, and (NOT) a work of MAN. (NOT) of WORKS lest any should (BOAST) . And again I (GOD) shall take out of you the stoney Heart and (GIVE) you a heart of flesh (SOFT HEART) and (I) GOD shall writte my Laws in you inner PARTS. DO you see I and YOU will do it there? And again FOR the Gentiles who have (NOT) the law , but do the things contained in them , showing the LAW Written on their Hearts (BY THE HAND OF GOD). But in your religion it should read written there by (YOU AND GOD). right. Because you some how by your so-called (FREE WILL) Choices can do it yourself. Good luck your going to need it. And remember if you fail in only (ONE) thing you fail in ALL, because it is written He who trangress in one of the lest of the Law is guilty of all. You religion is not of GRACE but of WORKS. Rather you see it or not. IMO
peace and love……………..gene
Kerwin……..You may think I am advocating to continue in sin, but I am by no means saying that, how can you contiune in sin if (GOD) has change your heart, People accused Paul of saying that also. Because we are under (GRACE) is not a license to sin, but Just the opposite if we are being lead by GOD'S Spirit we will not practice sinning for the Spirit of GOD both accuses and defends Us in our hearts and convects us of any sins we may have , to put them to death with GOD's POWER not ours . We being (FULLY) convinced GOD'S way is the best He adds GRACE in our time of Need, because He has said I will never leave you or forsake you and He is faithful and Just. Who are you that condemns , its, GOD who Justifies and it was Christ the died. Go to now you who think you save yourselves by your So-called (Free Will) choices. You have (ONLY) influenced Choice and non of that is (FREE). IMO
peace and love…………………gene
G,
Listen to Peter in 2 Peter 1 and see that he reminds us to SEEK as Jesus taught.No magic carpet ride.
NH.
Notice in the first verse of 1Peter chapter 1, what does it say?Note the contrast between Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, and Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus. Peter proceeds on the ground of His present rejection on earth, Paul on His exaltation in heaven.
You must correctly cut the word of truth!
Blessings
Hi CO,
The body of Christ is not divided.
Neither is the bible which you lacerate.Start from the beginning.
All must repent.The teachings of the apostles only apply to those walking with them in Christ.
Nick………The question is (HOW) they repent, which you fail to see. Your believe a man repents by His so-called free Will choice , we believe His repentant is a act of GOD. WE can't boast , but you can right because you repent on your own. You really don't need GOD for that right? Your salvation is based on yourself it appears. Grace has nothing to do with It right, just pure self WILLED Choices. YOU kid yourself my friend. If your are not (CREATED unto GOOD works you will never do good works, no matter how much your Pride Denies that.
Peace and love……………….gene
G,
So much for the theory that fascinates you but such intellectual stuff alone is vanity.
Walk while the light is with you.Nick……… you can.t answer the question right , which only shows you ignorance , so let see you believe your GOD has no intellect and is stupid or what , He he decides thing based not on his understanding and intelligence right, and the Spirit of GOD is void of intellect right, you have (NO) idea of what you are saying. IMO
peace and love……………………..gene
G,
When will you put aside your fancy theories and pick up the Word of God.
The God of love is revealed in there.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2009,08:43) Hi CO,
The body of Christ is not divided.
Neither is the bible which you lacerate.Start from the beginning.
All must repent.The teachings of the apostles only apply to those walking with them in Christ.
NH.
Your confusion begins that you believe that Jesus' teaching is for all. yet scripture states He was “not commissioned except to the lost sheep of the house of Isreal” (Matt.15:24).
Yet Pauls teachings are to all nations, the Gospel of Grace. Which you do not believe, because of your belief in the “one eternal Gospel for all”, which is a non-biblical heretical belief that you seem to adhere to.
Consequently, your current belief is flawed because of this nonsence you adhere to.Blessings.
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