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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2009,05:39) Hi KW,
Interesting.
When did I make any such claim?
Please withdraw this nonsense statement.
Why are you still obsessed with sin when satan has been overcome?[Jn16]
Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks and from your words it is easy to conclude that you are saying in your heart that it is OK to sin because you are under grace and in that way you are justifying the wicked.2 Timothy 4:3(KJV) reads:
Quote For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
As I have stated “who is God and what does He want of His people?”
The answer I come up with is God is righteous and He want His people to be righteous even as He is. He does not leave them like that but makes a promise if they truly believe in His Son then they will receive the Spirit of Holiness and by walking according to that Spirit they will do all He commands them to do. The question is “do you believe Him?”
Satan is indeed overcome for he is the master of sin and when one is released from being a servant of sin then for them Satan is overcome.
Nick Hasssan wrote:
Quote What does Jn16 tell you about the sin issue?
The same thing I have been saying.
John 16:7-11(KJV) reads:
Quote Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment :Of sin, because they believe not on me; of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
If you do not believe Jesus’ teachings then how can you believe he is the Promised One of God?
John 16:23-24(KJV) reads:
Quote And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
What does God give to those that hunger and thirst for His righteousness?
John 16:13-15(KJV) reads:
Quote Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
So what truth does the Spirit of truth guide those who believe into?
John 16:13(KJV) reads:
Quote These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
In what way did Jesus overcome the world? Are we also called to overcome the world?
Nick Hasssan wrote:
Quote Are you still burdened with self perfectionism?
How do you walk according to the Spirit? What is the result of walking according to the Spirit?
Nick Hasssan wrote:
Quote Love covers many sins.
If you truly keep the royal law of love your neighbor as yourself do you sin?
Nick Hasssan wrote:
Quote Does it bother you God ignores sins?
Where does it state God ignores sin? Sin angers him so at most he suffers sin because he hopes that those who do such detestable things will change their ways and do all that is right..
Hi KW,
Perhaps this verse explains the point better.
James 5:20
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2009,10:18) Hi KW,
Perhaps this verse explains the point better.
James 5:20
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
That would also work with 1 Peter 4:8 since by love we turn others away from their sins. That is where calling people to repent is an act of love and it is why both the Gentiles must change(convert) from the ways of sin to the ways of righteousness contrary to what has been claimed by certain individuals.Salvation is not afforded man at his own convenience, whenever he would care to take it to himself. Furthermore, there is no injustice with God in acting purposefully, choosing some for certain blessings and positions which He does not grant to others. “For to Moses He is saying, ‘I shall be merciful to whomever I may be merciful, and I shall be pitying whomever I may be pitying’” (Rom.9:15). When God is merciful to us, it is only because He is also gracious to us (cp Exodus 33:19).
Most seem to conceive of one’s obtaining of the holy spirit in a way similar to that of Simon, the magician. Like him, they “infer that the gratuity of God is [somehow] to be acquired” (Acts 8:20). Whether one seeks to acquire the holy spirit through money, or faith, the principle is the same. God’s gifts are not for sale. Peter’s testimony to those who would represent salvation in Christ as an acquisition for which men may qualify, is, “Your heart is not straight in front of God. Repent, then, from this evil of yours” (Acts 8:21,22).
Let us rejoice in the realization that God is our Saviour!—“He saves us, through the bath of renascence and renewal of holy spirit, which He pours out on us richly through Jesus Christ, our Saviour” (Titus 3:5b,6). This is so, “that, being justified in that One’s grace, we may be becoming enjoyers, in expectation, of the allotment of life eonian” (Titus 3:7).Copied from the “Concordant Publishing Concern”
Blessings.
Choosenone wrote:
Quote Whether one seeks to acquire the holy spirit through money, or faith, the principle is the same. God’s gifts are not for sale.
It is true you cannot acquire the Holy Spirit by money but it is false that you cannot acquire the Holy Spirit by faith for it is written “the righteous live by faith”.
Galatians 3:14(NIV) reads:
Quote He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
Don't you remember that Jesus healed many by God's grace and yet he told them “your faith has healed you.”?
Don't you realize you cannot have faith unless God gives it to you?
Hi KW,
Guilt is dealt with in the inner washing of our vessel by the blood of Christ.
Then we can put behind us the rubbish that burdened us.
Whom the Son sets free is free indeed.Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote So loving actions influence the reaction of God to our sin?
I am not sure what you are attempting to say. I do know that it is true that God has compassion on who he has compassion and mercy on who he has mercy. Does that mean that he does not love those he does not have compassion or mercy on? Hardly! Rather it means we are in no position to judge God. It is clear from scripture that in some of us that he chose as a gift to create a desire that hungers and thirsts for righteousness while in others he did not. Still God tries to bring every man to repentance even though he knows there are those that will reject Him and that attempt is also his grace. So I would say that God’s love determines our reaction to sin while our acts of love overcome our sin but that love itself is a gift from God.
Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote Guilt is dealt with in the inner washing of our vessel by the blood of Christ.
Those words are symbolic. Through faith that Jesus is the Son of God and so that his teachings are from God we enter the new covenant that was sealed with Jesus’ blood. Once we enter the new covenant we receive the gift of the Spirit of Righteousness by which Jesus overcame the world and we walk by that same spirit through faith. Still you must believe that God has given you a Spirit that will overcome all temptation you face or you don’t really believe you received the Spirit of Righteousness. If you choose to believe then it is as if you have already completed the journey and God forgives all your sins thus cleansing you of guilt because He is faithful and will do as he states. Still you must persist and run the whole race or it will be like you never believed..
Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote Then we can put behind us the rubbish that burdened us.
I agree in the context of what I wrote.
Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote Whom the Son sets free is free indeed.
Once again I agree.
Quote (chosenone @ May 05 2009,17:19) Salvation is not afforded man at his own convenience, whenever he would care to take it to himself. Furthermore, there is no injustice with God in acting purposefully, choosing some for certain blessings and positions which He does not grant to others. “For to Moses He is saying, ‘I shall be merciful to whomever I may be merciful, and I shall be pitying whomever I may be pitying’” (Rom.9:15). When God is merciful to us, it is only because He is also gracious to us (cp Exodus 33:19).
Most seem to conceive of one’s obtaining of the holy spirit in a way similar to that of Simon, the magician. Like him, they “infer that the gratuity of God is [somehow] to be acquired” (Acts 8:20). Whether one seeks to acquire the holy spirit through money, or faith, the principle is the same. God’s gifts are not for sale. Peter’s testimony to those who would represent salvation in Christ as an acquisition for which men may qualify, is, “Your heart is not straight in front of God. Repent, then, from this evil of yours” (Acts 8:21,22).
Let us rejoice in the realization that God is our Saviour!—“He saves us, through the bath of renascence and renewal of holy spirit, which He pours out on us richly through Jesus Christ, our Saviour” (Titus 3:5b,6). This is so, “that, being justified in that One’s grace, we may be becoming enjoyers, in expectation, of the allotment of life eonian” (Titus 3:7).Copied from the “Concordant Publishing Concern”
Blessings.
Chosenone …….I agree with you on this, many think there salvation is a performance based, they are achieving it by (their) Works, not realizing realizing “there is non righteous no not one”. Jesus plainly said “no man (CAN) come unto me unless the Father draw Him. We are (CREATED) unto good works , who here is a Creator? As far as I know (ONLY) GOD is the CREATOR. Man wants to steal Glory from GOD by their (SELF) works. IMOpeace and love to you and yours……………..gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2009,15:54) Hi S,
Certainly the gospel advice was given publically as the gospel should always be preached.
God is surely not interested in a true tabulation of our sins but a big change of heart.
Admitting our folly of trying to do it ourselves and our helplessness without HimThat is a start.
Beat around the bush! The question submitted to you was,
what did you repent of?” he simple gospel response would have been my sins.Do you make response to the gospel and salvation as difficult as your rhetoric regarding a simple question put to you?
Re-read Acts 2:38 in response to, “What should we do.”
Peter presented the start and the finish. Then begins our walk with God.
Seeking
Hi kerwin. This is off the topic, just a question of operating this website. When replying to a previous post, how do you get to put a cetain part of a sentence in the 'quote box', then give your answer, then repeat this sequence by puting another part in the 'quote box, and repying to that quote?
I have not been able to figure this out, I would be thankful for your help.Blessings, Jerry.
Quote (SEEKING @ May 06 2009,03:44) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2009,15:54) Hi S,
Certainly the gospel advice was given publically as the gospel should always be preached.
God is surely not interested in a true tabulation of our sins but a big change of heart.
Admitting our folly of trying to do it ourselves and our helplessness without HimThat is a start.
Beat around the bush! The question submitted to you was,
what did you repent of?” he simple gospel response would have been my sins.Do you make response to the gospel and salvation as difficult as your rhetoric regarding a simple question put to you?
Re-read Acts 2:38 in response to, “What should we do.”
Peter presented the start and the finish. Then begins our walk with God.
Seeking
Hi S,
The sin that matters as Jesus showed in Jn16 and Jn3 is unbelief.Forgiveness and restoration of a right relationship with God is the issue not the detail of individual sins.
Seeking[/quote]
Hi S,
The sin that matters as Jesus showed in Jn16 and Jn3 is unbelief.The word of God speaks to the contrary –
1Co 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.Isa 59:2 but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear.
Do you really propose they really don't matter? As you frequently ask, “do you know more than an inspired Apostle?”
Nick writes –
Quote Forgiveness and restoration of a right relationship with God is the issue not the detail of individual sins. Does not the keeping of that relationship enter into the picture and become a part of “teaching them to observe all things?
Hi S,
Reconciliation is forgiveness and cleansing of our conscience setting us free from sin and guilt.
Unbelief brings the natural fruit from natural men.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2009,13:37) Hi S,
Reconciliation is forgiveness and cleansing of our conscience setting us free from sin and guilt.
Unbelief brings the natural fruit from natural men.
What rabbit are you chasing now. Did you forget the question
and/or topic?What did you repent of, is the question.
Reconciliation has to do with bridging the gap back to God that our sin created.
2Co 5:18 All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation;
Thayer Definition:
1) exchange
1a) of the business of money changers, exchanging equivalent values
2) adjustment of a difference, reconciliation, restoration to favour
2a) in the NT of the restoration of the favour of God to sinners that repent and put their trust in the expiatory death of ChristStrong's Definition:
exchange (figuratively adjustment), that is, restoration to (the divine) favor: – atonement, reconciliation (-ing).It has nothing to do with, ” cleansing of our conscience.”
Heb 9:14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God.
1Pe 3:21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
Seeking
Hi S,
The inner cleansing by the blood of the Lamb is to prepare our vessels to hold the treasure of the Spirit.We are naturally ignorant in every way and with seared consciences even unaware of our sin issues.
So repentance that brings the forgiveness of God is of sin and not particular sins.
Luke 18:13
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.nick wrote:[/quote]
Nick writes –Quote Hi S,
The inner cleansing by the blood of the Lamb is to prepare our vessels to hold the treasure of the Spirit.We are naturally ignorant in every way and with seared consciences even unaware of our sin issues.
So repentance that brings the forgiveness of God is of sin and not particular sins.
I am sure it wasn't intentional, but you finally answered the question. CONGRADULATIONS!
So repentance that brings the forgiveness of God is of sin and not particular sins.
Whew! Glad that's over.
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