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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 16 2009,04:58)

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 15 2009,12:14) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2009,12:08) Hi 94, Indeed Act 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.   So Peter told us the gentiles were granted repentance unto life on the basis of only a few with Peter in whom it was manifesting. Why would someone teach all are saved? Hi Nick: God has been dealing with me showing me that He does not force anything on anyone. All that we can do is give them the truth by the scriptures, and hopefully, they will repent and start teaching the truth. 942767…….now your becoming like Nick, who here has said all (ARE) SAVED, please tell us who said that,  we have said all (WILL BE SAVED) YET AS BY FIRE> intense judgments.  You shouldn't twist what people say 942767, thats one of Nicks tricks. Many scripture have been posted and you as well as Nick never commit on any of them , you both don't even commit on Chosenones quotes and never agree with those posted quotes, why is that is it your PRIDES are preventing you from agreeing with anything that doesn't come from you two. No matter if the are directly quoted fro scriptures. Out of one side of your mouths you say believe Scripture and when posted you out of the other side of your mouths deny they mean what they say. love and peace to you……………………gene

Hi Gene:

So show me where I have twisted what you have said?

[NickHassan]

GB,
You have mixed up this teaching for the saved with ideas about the unsaved heathen

1Cor 3
9For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

16Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

You see the heathen are built in the temple of God because the foundation stone has yet to be laid in them and the Spirit of God does not dwell in them. These are basic essentials of our faith and I am surprised that you do not know this yet.

[chosenone]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 16 2009,08:18)

So GB, Do we have to come to Jesus as you said or do you agree with CO that coming to the Lord of all should be left out entirely?

NH.
Another of your false quotes, I NEVER SAID, as you said I did, that “coming to the Lord of all should be left out entirely”.
Would you please correct this accusation and apologise for misquoting me. This happens far to often, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[NickHassan]

CO,
Did I misconstrue. Then I am sorry.

So when did you go through the gate of Jesus into the kingdom?

[chosenone]

NH.
Apology accepted.
I haven't passed though the gate into the kingdom, my destiny, as part of the body of Christ, is celestial, in accord with scripture.

[NickHassan]

Hi CO,
You cannot become the head as that is Jesus so entry here into the body is advised.

[chosenone]

NH.
“We” don't chose our entry into the 'body of Christ', we are “chosen”, by God.

[NickHassan]

CO,
I hope you are so chosen.
Of course the word chosen itself shows us some are not chosen.

We should rather have the heavenly witnesses.

1jn5
7For there are three that testify:

8the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

9If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for the testimony of God is this, that He has testified concerning His Son.

10The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son.

11And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.

12He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.

This Is Written That You May Know
13These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

The life is in the Son.

[chosenone]

NH.
The ecclesia (body of Christ) are chosen!!!

Col.3:12 …Put on, then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, pitiful compassions, kindness, humility, meekness, patience,

2Tim.2:10 …10 Therefore I am enduring all because of those who are chosen, that they also may be happening upon the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with glory eonian.

Blessings.

[NickHassan]

CO,
Exactly.
Are you among those chosen?
When will you be sure?

[chosenone]

NH.
When we are “snatched away” (raptured)

[NickHassan]

CO,
You need to share in the Spirit of God to be rejoined with Christ, the head.
To share in his life Spirit you have to come to him.

Rom8
9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Jn7
37In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

38He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

[chosenone]

NH.
Matt.15:24 & Ro.15:8 Too bad you don't agree with scripture.

[NickHassan]

so you say CO.

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick………i also say that. it not just chosenone . other have told you that also.

peace………………..gene

[NickHassan]

so you say GB.

[chosenone]

I can't believe that Nick is actually stuck for words, he must have exhausted all words from his “one eternal gospel for all”. That non-biblical, nonsencical, gospel of his.

[NickHassan]

CO,
The gospel is of God .
He prepares the ground, supplies the seed and gives the growth.

We do not stress about those who cannot receive His words as perhaps they are not chosenones

[chosenone]

NH.
Jesus taught the 'Gospel of the kingdom”, it was never realised by Israel, and God has turned away from them, and turned to the “nations”. We are now under, and are taught “the Gospel of Grace”. The sooner you realise this, and quit teaching your heretical “one eternal gospel for all”, you may actually understand what God is doing!!! Move on, your stuck in time. Get out of your rut, you're stuck in time.

[NickHassan]

CO,
You had better explain why Jesus being commissioned to the lost sheep of Israel meaning his words are not for us.

We learn from Peter, Paul , Cornelius and Martha but not Jesus?

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