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Nick….who are you to say to what limit who God puts his Mercy on Have you become Him. He said he would have mercy on all, I will again for the 10th time quote it , God has concluded (ALL) under SIN, that HE might Have (MERCY) UPON ALL> There you have it again, just except it for what it says.
Hi GB,
Did you think God saying He would have mercy on all meant that He would give all eternal salvation?
He did not say that so is it wise to put words into His mouth?Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2008,17:08) Hi GB,
Did you think God saying He would have mercy on all meant that He would give all eternal salvation?
He did not say that so is it wise to put words into His mouth?
Nick… so God will have mercy on you but the hell with the rest, I have quoted you many scriptures that show God will and desires and His conclusion of Having Mercy on all and you still are obstinate to God words. Be careful He may do to you what you think He is going to do to others,Hi GB,
Where does scripture say God will give eternal salvation to all?
It does not.So teaching what is not written is hazardous and I would plead from more openmindedness from you.
Clinging to a human tradition in the face of scripture is unwise.Nick….Why don't you recognize all the scripture that show God will Have Mercy on All and many show he will, He has concluded all under SIN that He Might have Mercy on ALL. what part of ALL you don't understand or is Mercy you don't understand.
do you think you are the only luck one that gets mercy and no one else does are you so self centered to think God doesn't love the (WHOLE) world and His mercy is for All His creation.
You appear to not even begin to know the LOVE of GOD. That it extends to all his creation
he did not create his creation to be burned up in hell fire, but that all should come to repentance.
Human tradition is that God will not have mercy on all and will burn up his creation is some literal fire , thats the way you believe, so talk about Human tradition i would say it fit you perfectly.Hi GB,
Should mercy in this context be read as 'eternal salvation' whem His mercy takes many forms?
God indeed offers mercy to all…who are merciful.Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2008,06:35) Hi GB,
Should mercy in this context be read as 'eternal salvation' whem His mercy takes many forms?
God indeed offers mercy to all…who are merciful.
HI Nick,If the options are eternal salvation, or roasting in hell for eternity, is it your belief that it is God's mercy to commit
the majority of His creation to the latter?Tim
Hi Tim4,
Where have you been if that is your view of what I have said? God is mighty , loving and sovereign.
God has offered us salvation though the way of Jesus and heb 4 urges us strongly to enter that door.
That door is into the millenial kingdom by the sons of God reborn from the dead in the first resurrection.But look again at His manifold mercies. He knows we are but dust.
He loves to show mercy and scripture says mercy triumphs over judgementLook for other scriptures that show this.
These salvations are outside of the way of Jesus and come after the second resurrection.
The beatitudes of Matt 5.
Those in the highways and byways at the feast
The final sheep who are saved at judgement as in Mt25Sure they miss out on the wedding feast and the millenial kingdom but they are rescued.
I am of the personal view that a large proportion of men will be saved, mostly through the mercy of God.But no view that all will be saved can be shown from the bible.
ps,
Do not forget those who are saved in the great tribulation.
It is better to follow the way than go through such suffering.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2008,05:53) Nick….Why don't you recognize all the scripture that show God will Have Mercy on All and many show he will, He has concluded all under SIN that He Might have Mercy on ALL. what part of ALL you don't understand or is Mercy you don't understand. do you think you are the only luck one that gets mercy and no one else does are you so self centered to think God doesn't love the (WHOLE) world and His mercy is for All His creation.
You appear to not even begin to know the LOVE of GOD. That it extends to all his creation
he did not create his creation to be burned up in hell fire, but that all should come to repentance.
Human tradition is that God will not have mercy on all and will burn up his creation is some literal fire , thats the way you believe, so talk about Human tradition i would say it fit you perfectly.
If all to be saved…and none are to be destroyed what do these scriptures mean:2 Peter 2:1… 1But(A) false prophets also arose among the people,(B) just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master(D) who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
Jude 1:4…4For(A) certain people(B) have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert(D) the grace of our God into sensuality and(E) deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Titus 1:16…16(A) They profess to know God, but they(B) deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.
Jude 1:15…15(A) to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have(B) committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”
2 Peter 2:6 …6if by(A) turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction,(B) making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;[a]
Zechariah 13:2… 2″And(A) on that day, declares the LORD of hosts,(B) I will cut off the names of the idols from the land, so that they shall be remembered no more. And also(D) I will remove from the land the prophets and the spirit of uncleanness.
Nahum 3:15 ..15There will the fire devour you;
the sword will cut you off.
It will(A) devour you(B) like the locust.
Multiply yourselves like the locust;
multiply like the grasshopper!2 Thessalonians 1:9…9They will suffer the punishment of(A) eternal destruction,(B) away from[a] the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,
Philippians 3:19…19(A) Their end is destruction,(B) their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with(D) minds set on earthly things.
1 Thessalonians 5:3…3While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then(A) sudden destruction will come upon them(B) as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
2 Corinthians 11:15…5So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as(A) servants of righteousness.(B) Their end will correspond to their deeds.
2 Peter 2:3…3And(A) in their greed they will exploit you(B) with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
Again I ask…what's all this “judgement” talk about?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2008,13:54) Hi CO,
Nothing is necessary except the mercy of God.
That mercy is specified in the gospel.
The gospel of Jesus is written.
Have you not heard it?
Nick.
I answered “No” Please explain it to me.NO ANSWER AS OF YET. Are you going to answer?
Quote (chosenone @ July 07 2008,15:38) Nick.
For one who is so critical of many others who express their opinions on this site, why is it that you are so against publishing your opinion on what is required for salvation? Is it that you are not sure? Or are you afraid you really don't know, and don't want to
reveal your ignorance of scripture. Don't be shy, step up to the plate, we won't bite you.Blessings.
Nick.
Still looking for your opinion on “What is required for salvation”. Are you so ashamed of what you believe to not publish it?Waiting……………….!
Quote (dirtyknections @ July 08 2008,10:59) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2008,05:53) Nick….Why don't you recognize all the scripture that show God will Have Mercy on All and many show he will, He has concluded all under SIN that He Might have Mercy on ALL. what part of ALL you don't understand or is Mercy you don't understand. do you think you are the only luck one that gets mercy and no one else does are you so self centered to think God doesn't love the (WHOLE) world and His mercy is for All His creation.
You appear to not even begin to know the LOVE of GOD. That it extends to all his creation
he did not create his creation to be burned up in hell fire, but that all should come to repentance.
Human tradition is that God will not have mercy on all and will burn up his creation is some literal fire , thats the way you believe, so talk about Human tradition i would say it fit you perfectly.
If all to be saved…and none are to be destroyed what do these scriptures mean:2 Peter 2:1… 1But(A) false prophets also arose among the people,(B) just as there will be false teachers among you, who will© secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master(D) who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
Jude 1:4…4For(A) certain people(B) have crept in unnoticed© who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert(D) the grace of our God into sensuality and(E) deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Titus 1:16…16(A) They profess to know God, but they(B) deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient,© unfit for any good work.
Jude 1:15…15(A) to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have(B) committed in such an ungodly way, and of all© the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”
2 Peter 2:6 …6if by(A) turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction,(B) making them an example of© what is going to happen to the ungodly;[a]
Zechariah 13:2… 2″And(A) on that day, declares the LORD of hosts,(B) I will cut off the names of the idols from the land, so that© they shall be remembered no more. And also(D) I will remove from the land the prophets and the spirit of uncleanness.
Nahum 3:15 ..15There will the fire devour you;
the sword will cut you off.
It will(A) devour you(B) like the locust.
Multiply yourselves like the locust;
multiply like the grasshopper!2 Thessalonians 1:9…9They will suffer the punishment of(A) eternal destruction,(B) away from[a] the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,
Philippians 3:19…19(A) Their end is destruction,(B) their god is their belly, and© they glory in their shame, with(D) minds set on earthly things.
1 Thessalonians 5:3…3While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then(A) sudden destruction will come upon them(B) as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
2 Corinthians 11:15…5So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as(A) servants of righteousness.(B) Their end will correspond to their deeds.
2 Peter 2:3…3And(A) in their greed they will exploit you(B) with false words.© Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
Again I ask…what's all this “judgement” talk about?
Hi DK,
Those who come to sell a viewpoint will already have found justifications for their doctrine. They will have examined every verse and figured a way to get around the obvious.Nick…your words remind me of you.
after all they do come from your own heart.Who are you who Judges another's servant, He will stand or fall to His own master, He will stand for God is ABLE to make Him stand.
and why behold the splinter in they brothers eye and see not the beam in your own eye.Hi GB,
This thread is about salvation.
False gospels condemn the followers to the same fate of the false preacher.
So we endeavour to shine the light of the gospel of Christ here despite the opposition of the accuser.Nick……did you ever think (YOU) might be the accuser, Here, I have seen you accuse me of many false things.
HI GB,
I have encouraged you to discern between what is of man and what is of God.
Nothing personal but your future depends on you making a decision to follow Jesus.Nick………nothing personal either but i have made that decision more likely before you were ever born. YOU need to heed your own words my friend and stop Judging others. It's not the mouther of God words that will be excepted but the doer, According to Jesus, Nick, your opinions mean nothing to me I have read and studied the scriptures for 45 years and i think i pretty well know what they say, don't need your misguided Help at all, but thanks. Ill follow what i know is right.
Hi GB,
Jesu loved scripture.
He proved his mission from what was written.
We need to develop the same mindset of dependance first on scripture.
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