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- January 14, 2009 at 5:02 am#117547942767Participant
Hi Rabsheka:
Thanks for your post. May God Bless you and your family.
Marty
May 9, 2009 at 8:14 am#130415NickHassanParticipantG,
Here is what you thought applies to all men.
The saved only.
1Cor 3. Heb12May 9, 2009 at 3:43 pm#130432GeneBalthropParticipantNick……All will be salted with FIRE brother, FOR whom the LORD loves he disciplines and Scourges, all His Children He excepts and ALL those in the world, or that have died shall be salted with Fire, either you get it now or later but all get it. The Father and Jesus and we to are in the saving business.”FOR I saw the Lord descending from mount Paran with ten thousands of His Saints to (CONVINCE) the ungodly of all their ungodly deed which they have ungodly committed against GOD.” And while you say it applies to Us now , that true, but that does not preclude it happening to others later. GOD works the same with all man kind. With fiery Judgments, His ministers are called Flames of Fire. Unless we are Salted with Fire we are bastards and we will not be excepted . What we experience all will experience , GOD is (NO) respecter of persons. IMO
peace and love………………….gene
May 9, 2009 at 6:39 pm#130440NickHassanParticipantG,
Yes but he does not accept all men as his children.
Some he tells the devil is their father.
You must be born again.His sons he disciplines.[heb12]
The lake of fire is the prophesied fate of those committed to evil.[rev20-21]
May 9, 2009 at 7:36 pm#130445NickHassanParticipantG,
1Peter4
12Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:13But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
15But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
16Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
17For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
May 10, 2009 at 3:08 am#130454GeneBalthropParticipantNick………The ungodly and sinners will appear in Intense Judgments, as Scripture says. “For I saw the LORD descend from mount Paran With ten thousand of his Saint's to execute (JUDGMENT) in the earth and to (CONVINCE) (ALL)the (UNGODLY) of ALL their (UNGODLY) deeds they have (UNGODLY) committed against GOD”, SO you believe GOD will Just toss them into a (LITERAL LAKE OF FIRE) right, and burn them up screaming out into all eternity in pain and suffering. All The while trying to preach a GOD of MERCY and LOVE, who seem to be unable to (REALLY) save anyone except you and a few others , but the rest throw into a literial lake of fire. The GOD you preach is both unloving and unable to save His creation . “FOR they preach GOD, but (DENY) the POWER there Off.”
peace and love…………………gene
May 10, 2009 at 9:47 am#130461NickHassanParticipantG,
Jude1
13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
16These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Condemnation not education.
May 10, 2009 at 3:13 pm#130470GeneBalthropParticipantNick………So why does the Lord come to (CONVINCE) anyone then?, why does the Lord and the saints wast their time with these ungodly people, why not just burn them up as you preach, and to tell you the truth you fitted in that category at one time as we all could have, “He who condemns another condemns himself”. Please tell us what the word (CONVINCE) means to you? Why can't you make sense out of what you are reading? Do you take advantage of People because you are a monitor , by first provoking them to respond harshly to you and then giving them a tile for doing that. interesting? Remember it also says Hypocrites will also have their part in the lake of FIRE. IMO
peace and love……………………gene
May 10, 2009 at 7:18 pm#130482NickHassanParticipantG,
No CONVINCE in our bibles.Why?
That is God's business.
The pots do not understand the Potter.May 11, 2009 at 4:00 am#130585GeneBalthropParticipantNick……….What “no convince in our bible”, go back and read what you posted is the word (CONVINCE) there or NOT? Now ask you self what does that means, Where does it say the Pots do not understand the potter written, “For the Spirit searches the deep thing of GOD.”
Your lack of understanding Scripture Nick seems to present you with trouble brother.peace and love……………………..gene
May 11, 2009 at 4:03 am#130586NickHassanParticipantG,
You need a special bible ?
No second chancesMay 11, 2009 at 4:10 am#130589GeneBalthropParticipantNIck……thank you but the bibles i have are just fine for me. And let me say you need to understand what the WORD mean in your bible and maybe our dialog would be better. And who said there is a second Chance very few have has a first chance. IMO
peace and love……………..gene
May 11, 2009 at 4:19 am#130591NickHassanParticipantG,
You boast of understanding but your words do not always mirror the Master but only your intellect.
What gives?May 11, 2009 at 4:37 am#130606GeneBalthropParticipantNIck………..Post it, don't just mouth it, show me where they do not mirror Jesus and the FATHER. Prove it brother. Otherwise we can only assume you are just trying to talk about things you simply don't understand.
peace and love,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,gene
May 11, 2009 at 4:44 am#130608NickHassanParticipantG,
Nothing about a god of intellect is found in the mouth of any anointed scriptural teacher but only yours.What does that say?
May 11, 2009 at 2:27 pm#130646GeneBalthropParticipantNick………..it says you simply do not know what intellect is> Do you know what a (WORD) is , is it an expression of ones intellect or NOT, seeing it comes from the Heart of a man , now do you understand that the Heart and Mind is a persons thinking, “So a man thinks so he is”
Now are you able to put it all together and what do you get , its a persons Words that show His intellect, now was that hard to understand. I see you still failed to look up the meaning of the word i post for you to look up, so you still remain in ignorance.IMOpeace and love……………………..gene
May 11, 2009 at 7:16 pm#130657NickHassanParticipantG,
We have seen this trickle of logic claiming to be truth from you before.
Scripture can speak without your help.May 11, 2009 at 8:14 pm#130671GeneBalthropParticipantNick………again talk and nothing to back it up but your worthless opinions and chatter, Try using scriptures instead of you human reasonings, as you falsely accuse others of.
peace and love……………….gene
May 11, 2009 at 8:57 pm#130676NickHassanParticipantG,
When did your own ideas take over from the written truth?
You will never find as much light there.May 12, 2009 at 3:56 am#130725GeneBalthropParticipantNick………so prove there my (OWN) ideas instead of just mouthing off about them , is it because you have no proof , Just your condescending statements which mean nothing to me or anyone here.
peace and love………………………gene
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