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Bible study throws up some unexpected things.
When we read Matthew 13.55 we see Jesus was one of at least 7 children born to Mary.
The others are specified as
Joseph, James, Simon and Judas.
It also say he had sisters-so at least 2.Now at the crucifixion of Jesus we read in John 19.25 that he, John, was present as well as the mother of Jesus.
In Matt 27.56 there is a Mary the mother of James and Joseph.In Mark 15.40 the group is said to include “Mary, the mother of James the younger,and Joses and SALOME.” In the end of that chapter Mary the mother of Joses observed where he had been laid . In the next Chapter it says “Mary the mother of James , and Salome” went to anoint Jesus.
The parallel verse in Luke 24. 10 it says those women included “Mary the mother of James” as well and in Matt 28. 2 called “the other Mary”
Now it seems to me that all of these descriptions are of Mary the mother of Jesus written in different ways as we know she was present at His death and would have assisted at His anointing I am sure. If Joses then is another way of saying Joseph then it seems likely that one of the sisters of Jesus was called Salome.
Your thoughts?
Yes quite possible. Sometimes we need to do a bit of detective work to find these things out.
I know some Catholics that cringe at the idea that Jesus even had brothers, but he was born as a man into a normal family. So even from that perspective alone it is quite possible. However there are scriptures that talk about his natural family, so that clinches it for me.
In fact I am sure that there are lots of things that can be found by digging a bit deeper and putting events together.
Matthew 12:47-50
47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?”
49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers.
50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”Notice that the word sister was added at the end, when it wasn't part of the question.
Hi,
I had forgotten this verse in Mk 6.3″ Is this not the carpenter,the son of Mary and brother of James, and JOSES and Judas and Simon? Are they not his sisters here with us?”Were these the same members of his family who thought he was mad and came to take him away in Mk 3.21 and 32?
It seems to have been two sisters, Nick, since the word “sisters” in Mark 6:3 is written in the Greek plural form.
As a side note, the NETNotes scholars seem to think that calling Jesus the son of Mary was an insult:
The reference to Jesus as the carpenter is probably derogatory, indicating that they knew Jesus only as a common laborer like themselves. The reference to him as the son of Mary (even though Jesus’ father was probably dead by this point) appears to be somewhat derogatory, for a man was not regarded as his mother’s son in Jewish usage unless an insult was intended.
I found that interesting.
Hi MB,
It seems likely but there could have been more.
Scripture calls Mary his mother so no insults involved IMO.I do believe that Mary did not have any other children after Jesus ,and it was also that the first cousins were called brother and sister,
my reason that Jesus was the only son is this ;Jn 19:26 When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, “Dear woman, here is your son,”
Jn 19:27 and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.as only son he took care of the future of his mother becoming a unsupported women.
Hi T,
Yes that is the catholic dogma.
Gods do not have mere human brothers and
How could they worship Mary if she was not always a virgin?Quote (terraricca @ May 17 2012,17:36) Jn 19:27 and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home. as only son he took care of the future of his mother becoming a unsupported women.
Hi Pierre,It seems that Jesus had his own reasons for wanting Mary to board with John instead of with one of her natural offspring.
The scriptures say his “mother and brothers” were waiting to see him. If the word “mother” literally referred to Mary, then there is no reason for me to assume that the word “brothers” didn't also have a literal meaning.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 18 2012,18:23) Quote (terraricca @ May 17 2012,17:36) Jn 19:27 and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home. as only son he took care of the future of his mother becoming a unsupported women.
Hi Pierre,It seems that Jesus had his own reasons for wanting Mary to board with John instead of with one of her natural offspring.
The scriptures say his “mother and brothers” were waiting to see him. If the word “mother” literally referred to Mary, then there is no reason for me to assume that the word “brothers” didn't also have a literal meaning.
MikeLk 2:47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
Lk 2:48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
Lk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
Lk 2:50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
Lk 2:51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
Lk 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.I understand what you saying but I do not see any brothers and sisters wen he was 12 years old ,and as the custom was the first cousins were considered as brothers and sisters ,
this is because you could not marry the first cousins ,according to the law;
this is what I believe that Jesus was the only child,
but this as no effect to the message of Gods son
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