Reincarnation

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
We no longer know Christ after the flesh as when he returns it will not be as flesh.
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom and he will return in glory

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,07:26)

Hi ED, We no longer know Christ after the flesh as when he returns it will not be as flesh. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom and he will return in glory

Hi Nick, Yes, Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”.

John 18:36  “Jesus answered, my kingdom is not of this world: if my
…………………kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight”

Eph. 6:12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,
……………..against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Heb. 9:28: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look
………………for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

John 14:23 If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
……………….and “WE” will come unto him, and make “OUR” abode with him.
……………….You do realize that this can ONLY be done in the “Spirit”?

Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood,
……………..before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

2 Cor 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh:
……………….yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,
……………….yet now henceforth know we him no more.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Are you not awaiting the return of the king?
Are you not a faithful bridesmaid?

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,07:51)

Hi ED, Are you not awaiting the return of the king? Are you not a faithful bridesmaid?

Hi Nick,

Isaiah 33:17 Thine eyes (Ed J) shall see the king in his beauty:
they(?) shall behold the (futuristic) land that is very far off.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
No his brothers will see him return as he left.
His Spirit unites us now with him in heaven but he will return to be with us.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,08:02)

Hi Ed, No his brothers will see him return as he left. His Spirit unites us now with him in heaven but he will return to be with us.

Hi Nick,

Matthew 25:31-34 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him,
then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and
he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say (like Nick Hassan), Lo here! or,
lo there (Heaven)! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Rom. 4:17: For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink;
but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the HolySpirit.

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye
blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom (your “Pentecost“)
prepared for you from the foundation of the world: (see Heb.9:28)

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But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the [Holycity] of the living God(Isaiah 60:14), the heavenly Jerusalem(Rev.21:2-3), and
to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to
the spirits of just men made perfect, (Heb 12:22-23)

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
You confuse his return as Spirit to his brothers to his return in glory to rule all men.
He, and in him his Father are the Spirit that manifests to those that are in him.
That kingdom to come already exists within his brothers who obey him
But he is king of kings and Lord of all and ps 2 will be fulfilled.

After his millenial reign cleansing the earth with his brothers that are found in the first resurrection the king will judge all the nations.

Yes we who are in him have come in that Spirit to join his heavenly family.

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
At the moment the only manifestation of Christ Jesus on earth is within and among his few and scattered brothers.
But when he returns his coming will be as from the east to the west and those who killed him will mourn.
All the kings of the earth will be brought to their knees and the Lord of ALL will reign

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Rev 1.7
” Behold he is coming on the clouds and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, even those who pierced him,and ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH will mourn over him”

His current presence here does not allow the eyes of natural men to see him but only those few who are his.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2012,05:38)

Hi Ed, You confuse his return as Spirit to his brothers to his return in glory to rule all men. He, and in him his Father are the Spirit that manifests to those that are in him. That kingdom to come already exists within his brothers who obey him But he is king of kings and Lord of all and ps 2 will be fulfilled. After his millenial reign cleansing the earth with his brothers that are found in the first resurrection the king will judge all the nations. Yes we who are in him have come in that Spirit to join his heavenly family.

Hi Nick,

             “Come out of her, my people” (Rev 18:4)

The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2012,05:38)

Hi Ed, You confuse his return as Spirit to his brothers to his return in glory to rule all men. He, and in him his Father are the Spirit that manifests to those that are in him. That kingdom to come already exists within his brothers who obey him But he is king of kings and Lord of all and ps 2 will be fulfilled. After his millenial reign cleansing the earth with his brothers that are found in the first resurrection the king will judge all the nations. Yes we who are in him have come in that Spirit to join his heavenly family.

Hi Nick,

Zech 4:6 Then he (the Angel) answered and spake unto me,
saying, This is the word of “The LORD JEHOVAH”(151) unto
Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by
my “HolySpirit”(151), saith the “LORD of Hosts”(151).

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Indeed you must challenge some of your beliefs as they are wrong.

[NickHassan]

Quote (Ed J @ April 13 2012,12:37)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2012,05:38) Hi Ed, You confuse his return as Spirit to his brothers to his return in glory to rule all men. He, and in him his Father are the Spirit that manifests to those that are in him. That kingdom to come already exists within his brothers who obey him But he is king of kings and Lord of all and ps 2 will be fulfilled. After his millenial reign cleansing the earth with his brothers that are found in the first resurrection the king will judge all the nations. Yes we who are in him have come in that Spirit to join his heavenly family. Hi Nick, Zech 4:6 Then he (the Angel) answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of “The LORD JEHOVAH”(151) unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my “HolySpirit”(151), saith the “LORD of Hosts”(151). God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Yes Ed,
All is by the Spirit of God.
But men constantly try to elevate their puny status.

[GeneBalthrop]

EDJ………….Luk…..21:25……….> And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, and perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; v 26…> Men's hearts failing them for the fear, and for looking after these things which are “COMING ON THE EARTH” for the powers of heaven (the gravitational pulls that lock the planets together) shall be shaken.”

“there shall be great simonies of ocean wave becasue the earth will be wobbling becasue of the effects on the gravitational pulls, being distorted by something coming through our galaxy. This will cause the earth to wobble and hence the wave will roar and be great many will die IMO.

Ed j none of these thing have happened yet and they are physical events that are to take place before the return of Jesus they can  not be “spiritually”  dismissed brother.

Jesus will return and there will be a resurrection of the Saint and they will rule with him on this very earth and conquer all kingdoms of this earth for a thousand years. IMO

peace and love to you and your………………….gene

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
Try Is 24 and rev 6.13.
A polar shift is likely and that would destroy the wine supply that Revelation tells us about

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick………..Perhaps but what ever the cause it will be a celestial event also becasue of the sign in the sun and moon and stars and it appears the whole world will be focused on it and it dreaded effects, this is why it will be a Perplexity and distress of Nations, Nations whose land mass is at sea level could be completely wiped out. I believe there will be a large death totals perhaps one third of people on the earth could parish.  The wobbling of the earth will produce waves perhaps hundreds of feet high and flood many low sea level land masses.  The earth will go to and fro like a drunkard as scripture says it will.
It will be a time of great stress and perplexity of Nations.

peace and love…………………………………………………………………gene

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2012,12:37)

Hi ED, Indeed you must challenge some of your beliefs as they are wrong.

Hi Nick,

Do you believe your words do not apply to you? Consider carefully what Luke 17:21 says:

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say (like Nick Hassan), Lo here! or,
lo there (Heaven)! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Rom. 4:17: For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink;
but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the HolySpirit.

Isaiah 33:17 Thine eyes (Ed J) shall see the king in his beauty:
they (Nick) shall behold the land that is very far off (in the future).”

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 13 2012,13:02)

EDJ………….Luk…..21:25……….> And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, and perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; v 26…> Men's hearts failing them for the fear, and for looking after these things which are “COMING ON THE EARTH” for the powers of heaven (the gravitational pulls that lock the planets together) shall be shaken.” “there shall be great simonies of ocean wave becasue the earth will be wobbling becasue of the effects on the gravitational pulls, being distorted by something coming through our galaxy. This will cause the earth to wobble and hence the wave will roar and be great many will die IMO. Ed j none of these thing have happened yet and they are physical events that are to take place before the return of Jesus they can  not be “spiritually”  dismissed brother. Jesus will return and there will be a resurrection of the Saint and they will rule with him on this very earth and conquer all kingdoms of this earth for a thousand years. IMO peace and love to you and your………………….gene

Hi Gene,

“The carnal mind is enmity against God” (Rom 8:7)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,02:26)

Hi ED, We no longer know Christ after the flesh as when he returns it will not be as flesh. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom and he will return in glory

Nick,

Try these words instead; as it is a literal version that also translates the Semitic idiom to more modern wording.

1 Corinthians 15
International Standard Version

50Brothers, this is what I mean: Mortal bodies[dd] cannot inherit the kingdom of God, and what decays cannot inherit what does not decay.

[dd] 15:50 Lit. mean: Flesh and blood

Do you have any other support for the idea Paul was not using the common 'flesh and blood” expression to mean mortal body?

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
Flesh is of the dust of earth.
Why would you hope earth finds a home in heaven?

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