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Hi Mr. B Fun,
What do you make of Isaiah 61:1? It starts, “Ruwach Adonai YHVH is upon me……”
Do you read that as “Spirit Lord Jehovah is upon me…..”?
Would it help if you knew that in Like 4:18, Jesus read those words from a scroll in a synagogue as, “The Spirit OF the Lord is upon me…….”?
I've showed you that man is made in the “demooth Elohim”, which literally says “likeness God”. (Gen 5:1) You have no problem adding the “OF” in that phrase to make it say “Likeness OF God”, so what's the hangup with the word “Ruwach”?
The LXX and the NT both confirm it means “Spirit OF Elohim”, not “Spirit Elohim”.
One point at a time David. If you have a point in particular you want me to answer so this is not a one-sided affair, please post just that one point……not fifty at a time.
mike
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2010,22:36) Hi Mr. B Fun, What do you make of Isaiah 61:1? It starts, “Ruwach Adonai YHVH is upon me……”
Do you read that as “Spirit Lord Jehovah is upon me…..”?
Would it help if you knew that in Like 4:18, Jesus read those words from a scroll in a synagogue as, “The Spirit OF the Lord is upon me…….”?
I've showed you that man is made in the “demooth Elohim”, which literally says “likeness God”. (Gen 5:1) You have no problem adding the “OF” in that phrase to make it say “Likeness OF God”, so what's the hangup with the word “Ruwach”?
The LXX and the NT both confirm it means “Spirit OF Elohim”, not “Spirit Elohim”.
One point at a time David. If you have a point in particular you want me to answer so this is not a one-sided affair, please post just that one point……not fifty at a time.
mike
Mike,No problem with “adding” “of”. It was added by translators for Greek as you pointed out but, as you know the “of” doesn't exist.
So the Ruwach of Elohim is good in Gen 1:2. Then the same is applied in Gen 2:7 the YHWH of Elohim.
Still doesn't change that these are the two essences of the ONE Elohim, does it?
By the way LXX and NT would never have Spirit Elohim they would have pneuma theos.
Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 20 2010,10:47) Mike, No problem with “adding” “of”. It was added by translators for Greek as you pointed out but, as you know the “of” doesn't exist.
So the Ruwach of Elohim is good in Gen 1:2. Then the same is applied in Gen 2:7 the YHWH of Elohim.
Still doesn't change that these are the two essences of the ONE Elohim, does it?
Hi David,So let me get this straight. Instead of rallying to keep the “of” out of “Ruwach Elohim”, you now say we must add the “of” in “YHVH Elohim”?
So you think there is a “Yaweh OF God”? What is a “Yahweh”? We know from scripture that there is a “Spirit OF God”, and we know that “Yahweh”, or “YHVH” is God's personal name.
You are “David Professor”. Are you “David OF Professor”?
mike
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