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Hi N
yeah ,and you drifting away from the truth of God and salvation for you are following your opinions rather than the scriptures ,
one more thing
it is written that it is Jesus that will baptise in /by the holy spirit and so he did with 10 of his apostles (Thomas was absent)that dayand Jesus did not use water dip,so you are in conflic with the scriptures no with me ;
Hi N
you ignored the scriptures again over your own opinions,
this is a classic of yours
you say the the holy spirit his given through water baptism ;scriptures shows you differently but you don’t accept it .are you serious?
you are arguing with scriptures not with me
Hi T,
You say
“you say the the holy spirit his given through water baptism”
Rubbish
I have never said that.
Hi N
but acts does not make the rules ;there is more in scriptures than the book of Acts
Jn 20:21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.”
Jn 20:22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.MT 3:11 “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
1) what is the holy spirit
2) what is the fire ?
JN 1:33 “I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the “One” who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.’
how many did scriptures say would be baptizing others with the holy spirit ? I see ONE
MK 10:38 But Jesus said to them, “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, or to be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?”
LK 12:50 “But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished!what was the baptism that Jesus was talking about here ?
RO 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
EPH 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
COL 2:12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
1PE 3:21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you— not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,was the above baptism of water ? NO it was Not
so what does it mean to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ ? it shows definitely not water
Hi T,
So you deny the book of Acts?
Can you discard bits of scripture that do not agree with your ideas?
Should we not listen to God’s teaching in the book of Acts but follow you?
Surely this is gross rebellion.
You walk in the Spirit?
Terrarica,
yes Jesus breathed on 10 of his apostles and give them the holy spirit ; no water was used ,
I thought you believed that they received the Holy Spirit at Pentecost?
Could you please explain what you really mean?
Kerwin
that is Nick that believe the HS was given to them at the pentecost,
I show you what I believe in scriptures
Hi T,
But Pentecost is described in the book of Acts which you do not seem to accept.
The Holy Spirit came down on the disciples and they were transformed just as jesus was.
Do you believe this?
Terraricca,
that is Nick that believe the HS was given to them at the pentecost,
I show you what I believe in scriptures
Then you must not believe the Spirit that came on the house of Cornelius transformed the members of that house since it happened just as it did with the disciples on Pentecost.
Kerwin
what happen at the pentecost was part of the great Picture , and so was the acceptance in the covenant for the gentiles ,
Hi t,
If you read Acts you will see many many examples of those who responded to the gospel message being baptised in water and hands being laid on them to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
With Cornelius you will see the sovereign decision of God to give them the Spirit first. Yet even they were baptised in water by the command of Peter.
In Acts 19 you will see those who had been baptised by John receiving the baptism in the name of Jesus before the Spirit was given and manifested among them.
The problem Nick has is he draws conclusions from his own understanding. While it may not be directly said that Jesus had the spirit before baptism, neither can you say that it was not. Regarding John, we know that he received the spirit at birth.
Luke 1:15
For he will be great in the sight of the Lord; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother’s womb.Had not this particular verse been mentioned, then perhaps Nick would say that John had not the spirit because he was not baptised in Jesus name. Likewise if it doesn’t say that Jesus had the spirit or not, so you cannot say that he had not with no scriptural proof.
Nick always asks for proof that Jesus had the spirit before his birth while confidently asserting that he had not and yet the same proof is not required for some reason.
If John had the spirit and Jesus not, then show me the smoking gun Nick.
Hi t8,
Better for you to show the scriptures that say he was anointed.
But do you not say he was a god?
Why would a god need anointing?
By denying the Spirit you miss so much.
Nick
what is the spirit you talking about ?
if it is the holy spirit of truth ;it is obvious you mist it
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