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- April 20, 2016 at 12:58 pm#812153kerwinParticipant
Nick,
The Lord is Spirit means God is Love. Jesus after all stated God is spirit and his people will worship him in spirit and truth. You know that means his people will worship him with Love because is the sum of the Law. Jesus is also Love through the same Spirit so the specific identity of “the Lord” in the passage you speak is irrelevant as long as one acknowledges it is either the Father or the Son.
It is better to speak of Jesus as regards to the Spirit than in regards to the flesh but when the subject is faith in the resurrection then the conversation is about is about Jesus in the flesh. But in that case Paul might have been speaking of the nature of sin and not the physical nature of flesh. I would have to look at it and the conversation is getting derailed as it is.
April 20, 2016 at 1:45 pm#812154NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
No you made that up.
Your perceptions are against truth
April 20, 2016 at 1:49 pm#812155NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
The body was designed to be a temple of the Spirit.
Instead men are a whited sepulchres full of dead men’s bones.
No wonder Paul asked to be freed from his body.rom 7
He who has died is freed from sin.
April 20, 2016 at 4:28 pm#812168terrariccaParticipantNick
religion sects talk but not the truth
April 20, 2016 at 5:30 pm#812177NickHassanParticipantHi t,
Do you believe in anything?
You are always negative no matter what the subject is.
Are you feeling a little down or something?
April 20, 2016 at 5:59 pm#812178Ed JParticipantHi Ed,
The body was designed to be a temple of the Spirit.
Yes Nick,
“for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them,
and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2 Cor 6:16)__________________
God bless
Ed JApril 20, 2016 at 6:05 pm#812179Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Pierre believes God’s salvation is tied to Pierre’s view, sad really – how shallow of him.
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God bless
Ed JApril 20, 2016 at 6:26 pm#812180kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
No you made that up.
Your perceptions are against truth
Not one word is made up though there may be an error in it since I am fully capable of error. But I see nowhere where you detected one so perhaps not.
I admit that it is sometimes easier to determine what a passage of Scripture does not mean that to determine what it does.
So perhaps you will share your hidden knowledge instead of breathing without knowledge.
April 21, 2016 at 1:53 am#812182GeneBalthropParticipantNick….I tend to agree with kerwin on this, scripture shows it is a body we are raised with, and we know a spirit is not itself a body, also his point of scripture saying it is the sin “in” the flesh that is being done away with, through the effectual working of the spirit of GOD is valid point.
Another point NICK, where it says flesh and blood can not “inherit” the kingdom of God, can mean that no flesh can atain the kingdom of God because it is SPRITUALLY PERCIEVED, SO IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR FLESH AN BLOOD TO ITSELF TO “INHERIT” IT. Much like where JESUS said ,”the kingdom of God comes without oberservation, it is within you”. So that means to me that the Kindom is not physical but spritual, so in that sense it is different then physical. But to say flesh and blood will not be in the kingdom of GOD I believe is wrong.
Scripture also say that the whole creation will be delievered from it’s bondage of corruption, if it is the whole creation that includes man kind also. Scripture say “GOD HAS GIVEN IT, ( THE SPIRIT) A BODY JUST AS HE PLEASES”. OUR NEW BODIES WILL BE SPRITUALLY GENERATED ONE, BUT STILL A PHYSICAL BODY . IMO
peace and love to you and yours………gene
April 21, 2016 at 3:53 am#812188terrariccaParticipantNick
Hi t,Do you believe in anything?
You are always negative no matter what the subject is.
Are you feeling a little down or something?
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yes I believe in the whole scriptures and so in all the waves that are told in it .the good as well as the bad
I am not negative ;LK 14:8 “When you are invited by someone to a wedding feast, do not take the place of honor, for someone more distinguished than you may have been invited by him,
the law is good but breaking it is not ,I am not sure if you understand this
April 21, 2016 at 9:13 am#812195NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Flesh is of the soil of earth.
Perishable.
We are to become like the second Adam , the man of heaven.
“It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body.
….We shall all be changed”
The seed sown is different to the plant that grows from it.
April 21, 2016 at 1:21 pm#812210kerwinParticipantNick,
Flesh is of the soil of earth.
Perishable.
Only until creation is freed from its bondage to corruption.
Romans 8:20-24Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. 24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
So is creation freed from bondage to corruption?
Is the body redeemed?
The bottom line is that you do not believe Jesus was resurrected from the dead in likeness of the final resurrection not do you believe the body is redeemed.
April 21, 2016 at 1:27 pm#812212terrariccaParticipantED
Hi Nick,
Pierre believes God’s salvation is tied to Pierre’s view, sad really – how shallow of him.
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NO Ed, that is your lie that you like to project about me ;but you cannot prove that ;for to prove that you will have to admit your lies and misunderstanding of the scriptures ,
and that is hard to do for some ;for the scriptures have only one view THE TRUTH IN THEM
April 21, 2016 at 2:20 pm#812216NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Indeed.
There is a new creation.
All things are made new ..and imperishable.
April 21, 2016 at 2:43 pm#812219kerwinParticipantNick,
When was ” the creature […] made subject to vanity”?
April 21, 2016 at 2:54 pm#812220NickHassanParticipantHi KW
Rom 8
18For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. 24For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? 25But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.
17Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
Rev 21.5
He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
Will you be part of the NEW CREATION?
New body and all?
April 21, 2016 at 3:53 pm#812227terrariccaParticipantNick
before you can hope in true faith you have to accept the word of God as the truth and not rejected to your own opinions
April 21, 2016 at 4:21 pm#812228kerwinParticipantNick,
You failed to answer my question.
April 21, 2016 at 4:57 pm#812231NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
The plan of God never changes.
It was from the beginning.
April 21, 2016 at 8:30 pm#812236terrariccaParticipantNick
what is the plan of God ?
you seem not going anywhere in your explanation
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