Preexistence

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  • #811364
    NickHassan
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    Hi ED,

    Yes it was the Pharisees who thought the Son of God meant he had equality with God

    strange bedfellows indeed.

    #811365
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed

    Mt 3.16

    After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, 17and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.”

    You think this relates to his physical conception in Mary?

    Hi Nick,

    God is confirming what the Angel said back in Like 1:15 that “Jesus”(74) is the “Son of God”(74)
    Theomatics (numbers encoded in Scripture) also confirm “Jesus”(74) was born the “Son of God”(74)

    Luke 1:35 is a fulfillment of the prophecy given in Micah 5:2.
    You instead try to make Luke 1:35, which is the fulfillment of Micah 5:2,
    into a private interpretation of Prophecy twisting God’s word – Peter warns about this.

    The Prophecy:
    out of thee Bethlehem shall he come forth whose goings have been from everlasting (ref. to Micah 5:2)

    The Fulfillment:
    she was found with child of the HolySpirit, therefore that holy thing
    which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God (ref. to Matt 1:18-Luke 1:35)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #811366
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    Yes it was the Pharisees who thought the Son of God meant he had equality with God

    strange bedfellows indeed.

    “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
    Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God” (Phil 2:5-6)

    Hi Nick,

    Since you don’t agree with God’s word,
    should we rip this verse from our bibles?

    _______________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #811367
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    No but you do need to seek a spiritual understanding of it.

    Wait till the morning star rises in your heart

    #811368
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    Anyone that exists in the form of God would see it not robbery to be equal to God as humility is an aspect of being in the form of God. They would also make themselves of no reputation and take on the form of a servant because that is what the humble do by nature.

    #811371
    kerwin
    Participant

    Somme would claim that since it is written ” the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters” that it had sex with the earth. There are ancient theologies that teach essentially that. That would be the union of Anu(heaven) and Ki(earth) in Sumerian theology.

    #811372
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Romans 1 tells us that the Sonship of Jesus Christ to God is according to the Spirit.

     

    #811376
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Romans 1 tells us that the Sonship of Jesus Christ to God is according to the Spirit.

    Hi Nick,

    Of course: HolySpirit – God
    “Spirit of Christ – Son of God

    This is according to the Spirit…

    “How say they that Christ is David’s son? And David himself saith in the book of Psalms,
    The LORD(JEHOVAH) said unto my Lord(Jesus), Sit thou on my right hand,
    Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore
    calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?”
    (Luke 20:41-44)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #811377
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    The Son of God is not a term that relates to his mother.

    Hi Nick – really ???

    No-kidding

    #811378
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Jesus Christ is lord of all.

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever.

    The lord of the living and the dead.

    Son of David according to the flesh but the lord of David according to the Spirit.

     

    #811379
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Prov 30

    Who has ascended into heaven and descended?

    Who has gathered the wind in His fists?

    Who has the waters in His garment?

    Who has established all the ends of the earth?

    What is His name or His sons’s name?

    Surely you know?

    Yep,

    What is His name: יהוה YÄ-hä-vā (JEHOVAH)
    …………….– and –
    What is His Sons’s name: יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă (Jesus)

    #811380

    Ed J,
    Thank you for your comment. Your consideration and kind word about what I wrote means a lot.

    To the rest of you fellows: I apologize for being so judgmental in my last post.

    There are some subjects that I just do not want to go off in what I think of as a tangent. A tangent is a line that touches a circle at exactly one point while missing the rest of the circle. In this respect, I guess I am the tangent and you all are the circle.

    While I have wrote about subjects that I am sure are sensitive subjects to others, I now realize that I need to present my words and expressions with more kindness. Still, it is hard to recognize kindness when a person seems to be ‘attacking’ something we hold dear.

    For the most part it seems from one post to the next, you all have been basically kind and when you end with “peace, brother” it is hard feel bad toward someone who disagrees with you.

    Guess I am not going to pull the plug (YET). Still this subject is too extreme for me at this time.

    Peace and love to you all.

    Richard

    #811381
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    Hi Richard,

    I really thought I’m alone in this forum. Many blessings to you!

    Danny

    #811388
    kerwin
    Participant

    Richard, Danny, and Ed;

    Is it true that God gave Jesus his Spirit?

    So as to not be a trick question consider these words of Jesus as he quoted Scripture.

    Matthew 12:18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.

    #811389
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Richard, Thanks!

    Yes, there are many other things to discuss that
    are more important than the issue of preexistence.

    _______________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #811390
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    I just posted a question to you before your response to Richard.

    #811391
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    Ya shua.

    God saves

    #811392
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Danny,

    You are not alone (:

    _______________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #811393
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Are you suggesting that Jesus was not alive till he was anointed?

    A body without a spirit is dead as James said.

     

    The Prophets and men of old are still alive in the Spirit.

    but you suggest that the Spirit of God left Jesus at calvary?

     

    #811394
    Ed J
    Participant

    Ed,

    I just posted a question to you before your response to Richard.

    Richard, Danny, and Ed;

    Is it true that God gave Jesus his Spirit?

    Hi Kerwin,

    Yes – Matt 3:16, Mark 1:10, Luke 3:22

    “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established” (2 Cor 13:1)

    _______________
    God bless
    Ed J

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