Preexistence

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  • #301881
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,08:55)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,01:46)

    So Jesus existed in the form of God before being made into the likeness of a human being?


    Yep


    So he was with God in the beginning, and then became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?

    #301882
    Ed J
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,08:55)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,01:46)

    So Jesus existed in the form of God before being made into the likeness of a human being?


    Yep


    So he was with God in the beginning, and then became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?


    Mike, He was God in the beginning; not an Angel.
    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
    God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels,
    preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”    (1Tm.3:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #301887
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 11 2012,09:46)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,08:55)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,01:46)

    So Jesus existed in the form of God before being made into the likeness of a human being?


    Yep


    So he was with God in the beginning, and then became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?


    Mike, He was God in the beginning; not an Angel.
    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
    God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels,
    preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”    (1Tm.3:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    eddy

    if he received the glory who give it to him ????????????????????

    #301888
    Ed J
    Participant

    PIERRE, are you referring to this “glory”…

    “And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them;
    that they may be one, even as we are one” (John 17:22)

    the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
    pared
    with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #301890
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,09:46)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:35)

    So Jesus was with God in the beginning, and then became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?


    Mike, He was God in the beginning; not an Angel.


    So Jesus WAS God, but then became God's only begotten Son?    Hmmm……………  Ed, if you truly believe this, then why do you fight against Jesus being the Word?  After all, you believe the Word was God and then became flesh, and you believe Jesus was God and then became flesh, right?  So why isn't Jesus the Word? Were there TWO separate things that WERE God but then became flesh?

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,09:46)
    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
    God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels,
    preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”    (1Tm.3:16)

    NET ©
    He was revealed in the flesh…………

    NIV ©
    He appeared in a body…………..

    NASB ©
    He who was revealed in the flesh……….

    NLT ©
    Christ appeared in the flesh………….

    MSG ©
    He appeared in a human body…………..

    BBE ©
    He who was seen in the flesh……………

    NRSV ©
    He was revealed in flesh………..

    It seems the AKJV stands alone in rendering this as “GOD appeared in the flesh”.

    Also, you avoided Pierre's actual point, Ed.  He wants to know who took “God” up in glory.  And I'd like to know how “God” was vindicated by “the Spirit”.

    #301891
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 11 2012,10:42)
    PIERRE, are you referring to this “glory”…

    “And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them;
    that they may be one, even as we are one” (John 17:22)

    the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
    pared
    with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    eddy

    you quoting scriptures and then do not believe them ?????

    #301894
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,04:04)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,09:46)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:35)

    So Jesus was with God in the beginning, and then became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?


    Mike, He was God in the beginning; not an Angel.


    So Jesus WAS God, but then became God's only begotten Son?    Hmmm……………  Ed, if you truly believe this, then why do you fight against Jesus being the Word?


    Mike, it is a false doctrine taught by the systems of religion.

    #301895
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2012,04:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 11 2012,10:42)
    PIERRE, are you referring to this “glory”…

    “And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them;
    that they may be one, even as we are one” (John 17:22)

    the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
    pared
    with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    eddy

    you quoting scriptures and then do not believe them ?????


    Huh? …it is you that does not believe this; right?

    #301896
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,11:43)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,04:04)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,09:46)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:35)

    So Jesus was with God in the beginning, and then became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten?


    Mike, He was God in the beginning; not an Angel.


    So Jesus WAS God, but then became God's only begotten Son?    Hmmm……………  Ed, if you truly believe this, then why do you fight against Jesus being the Word?


    Mike, it is a false doctrine taught by the systems of religion.


    Ed,

    Please answer the last post on page 507 for me.

    And then answer this question you overlooked:

    Were there TWO separate things that WERE God but then became flesh?

    #301898
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    Jesus and the HolySpirit are not 'things'.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #301899
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:32)
    ONLY when they die?


    Hi Mike,

    Some people report having out of body experiences while they are still alive.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #301900
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    1) Jesus: “I came out from God” (John 16:27)
    2) The Comforter: “I will send unto you from the Father” (John 15:26)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #301903
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:17)
    Hi Mike,

    Jesus and the HolySpirit are not 'things'.

    God bless
    Ed J


    And what then should we call them, Ed? EVERYTHING in existence is a “thing”, Ed. All things are not persons, but all persons are things.

    Don't divert away from the point, okay? Also, I already read your “comforter” post, and it doesn't answer my question.

    YOU say that Jesus was God. YOU say that the Holy Spirit was God. YOU say that the Word was God. Did all of these things become flesh and dwell on earth with the glory of ONE only begotten of God?

    #301904
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:24)
    Hi Mike,

    1) Jesus: “I came out from God” (John 16:27)
    2) The Comforter: “I will send unto you from the Father” (John 15:26)

    God bless
    Ed J


    THE COMFORTER said those words, Ed? ??? Or was it JESUS saying he would SEND the comforter?

    #301905
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:18)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:32)
    ONLY when they die?


    Hi Mike,

    Some people report having out of body experiences while they are still alive.


    And do you suppose that God was “dead” in the beginning? Or just having an “out of body experience”?

    #301908
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,05:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:17)
    Hi Mike,

    Jesus and the HolySpirit are not 'things'.

    God bless
    Ed J


    And what then should we call them, Ed?  EVERYTHING in existence is a “thing”, Ed.  All things are not persons, but all persons are things.

    Don't divert away from the point, okay?  Also, I already read your “comforter” post, and it doesn't answer my question.

    YOU say that Jesus was God.  YOU say that the Holy Spirit was God.   YOU say that the Word was God.  Did all of these things become flesh and dwell on earth with the glory of ONE only begotten of God?


    Hi Mike,

    Is God 'a thing' to you, you do call him 'a person' right?      …please answer

    Quote
    Did all of these things become flesh and dwell on earth with the glory of ONE only begotten of God?


    This question is utter nonsense!

    1) The HolySpirit is “The Word”
    2) Jesus and the HolySpirit are not things
    3) The Glory of the HolySpirit was seen in his Son Jesus.

    You are not 'Hitler', no-one has to bow to your slighted questions.
    If they do, then T8 said we can say “I don't know”!     …so STOP your abusive nonsense!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #301909
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,05:43)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:24)
    Hi Mike,

    1) Jesus: “I came out from God” (John 16:27)
    2) The Comforter: “I will send unto you from the Father” (John 15:26)

    God bless
    Ed J


    THE COMFORTER said those words, Ed?    ???  Or was it JESUS saying he would SEND the comforter?


    Hi Mike,

    Jesus

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #301910
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,05:43)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,12:18)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,02:32)
    ONLY when they die?


    Hi Mike,

    Some people report having out of body experiences while they are still alive.


    And do you suppose that God was “dead” in the beginning?  Or just having an “out of body experience”?


    Hi Mike,

    Neither

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #301911
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 11 2012,11:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2012,04:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 11 2012,10:42)
    PIERRE, are you referring to this “glory”…

    “And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them;
    that they may be one, even as we are one” (John 17:22)

    the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
    pared
    with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    eddy

    you quoting scriptures and then do not believe them ?????


    Huh?     …it is you that does not believe this; right?


    edj

    Quote
    Mike, He was God in the beginning; not an Angel.
    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
    God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels,
    preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” (1Tm.3:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    who quoted 1Tm 3;16 ????

    #301912
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 11 2012,06:06)
    who quoted 1Tm 3;16 ????


    Me, why?

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