Preexistence

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  • #220608
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 20 2010,23:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,00:02)
    Hi Gene,
    Are you saying that you believe Jesus is going to float in the sky on clouds?

    Ed,

    “They shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” Matthew 24: 30

     “Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, including those who pierced him. All the tribes of the earth will mourn over him. Even so, Amen.” Revelation 1:7


    Hi Shimmer,

    This has already happened on Pentecost!

    Hebrews 12:1c Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses,
    let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us,
    and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

    Why do you thing Christianity has spread the world wide?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220610
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 20 2010,23:44)
    Gene, i'm getting confused with Jesus return now, what I saw years ago, and what scripture says, and what you say which I believe.


    Shimmer………..Jesus the MAN will return with Great POWER and GLORY, and all true Saints will be gathered to Him and they with Jesus will set up Jesus' Kingdom for a thousand years , God the Father will remove evil from the earth and all will be willing to obey in those days , but at the end of the thousand years evil will again be released on the earth by GOD and Men will turn against Jesus and the Saints, and they shall withdrew to Jerusalem and a Great Army like a flood will come after them to Jerusalem and when they are about to attack fire will come down from heaven and devour them. And then the KINGDOM of GOD, the LORD GOD HIMSELF Shall come to EARTH and the Books shall be opened and the Second resurrection shall also take place and everyone shall be judged our of what is written and according to their works. All thing will be turned to GOD for ever and ever.

    Here is something scary………..Rev 20:12………> And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and (THE DEAD) were Judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works> The scary part is that are these brought back to life or are they still dead and their Past lives analyzed and Judged by these books that are already written and recorded of the Past life when they were alive.

    Perhaps those that are who are not written in the book of life will not even come back to life but remain dead , not sure of this, i am just speculation based on the wordings It does not say the dead are brought back and judged out of the books. but the dead are judged it kind of say they are still dead when this takes place. 15…..> and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. May GOD help us all to be found worthy of Life and written in the book of Life. I think there is a lot of factor involved in all of this that we may not fully understand.

    Peace and love to you and yours………………………gene

    #220614
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 20 2010,23:44)
    Gene, i'm getting confused with Jesus return now, what I saw years ago, and what scripture says, and what you say which I believe.


    Shimmer………..I am not worried about you being confused the Spirit will guide you and the sound sense it give you will bring every though into judgement. “THE SPIRIT ITSELF SHALL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS” Continue to trust in GOD , remember Jesus said you shall all be taught by GOD. That is True, listen to what others say but bring it through the filter of the HOLY Spirit which is the SPIRIT(INTELLECT) of TRUTH. “Try the spirits (intellects) to see if they are of GOD”, or NOT. God has chosen to open you mind and no man or women can close it, and you will see as all who have the Spirit of God sees.

    peace and love to you and yours Shimmer…………………….gene

    #220626
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 21 2010,06:44)
    Gene, i'm getting confused with Jesus return now, what I saw years ago, and what scripture says, and what you say which I believe.


    hi shimmer

    do not get confused by those story , “Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, including those who pierced him. All the tribes of the earth will mourn over him. Even so, Amen.” Revelation 1:7

    many give all sort of meaning to this but if you read it with understanding ,this will not happen before the millenium.

    Gene as a strange way to see the Holy spirit as INTELECT,this is not true.
    this is a quote from gene;
    some can't be thrown into a fiery furnace and come out without even a hair being singed but Ashac , Meshac and Abigo did, All things are possible with GOD.

    You should read the drama there you may learn some thing very important to know,the fire was not what was the important factor.

    Pierre

    #220634
    Baker
    Participant

    Gene So with power and great glory is flesh? Well Jesus went back to His Father in Heaven and had a glory which He had before the world was, which you will deny. Sorry you are dead wrong. Jesus was Spirit Being and the firstborn of all creation and that is what He went back to. And that is how He will come back with great glory…….. that is not a flesh body……Why cause flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of God and since that is where Jesus went, after His resurrection, common sense will tell me that He also had to be Spirit like His Father is……Irene

    #220638
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Irene,

    That's what happened on Pentecost! Know your Bible!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

    #220640
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,11:33)
    Hi Irene,

    That's what happened on Pentecost! Know your Bible!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)


    edj

    no,Christ did not came back at the Pentecost,the re comforter was send,

    you like to change things don't you ed

    Pierre

    #220643
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Terraricca,

    Are you still waiting for this to happen?…

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
    and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    Heb.9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that
    look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220644
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2010,05:23)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,11:33)
    Hi Irene,

    That's what happened on Pentecost! Know your Bible!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)


    edj

    no,Christ did not came back at the Pentecost,the re comforter was send,

    you like to change things don't you ed

    Pierre


    I agree……. Irene

    #220645
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,05:33)
    Hi Terraricca,

    Are you still waiting for this to happen?…

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
    and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    Heb.9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that
    look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed That has nothing to do with when Christ returnes….Irene

    #220647
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Oct. 21 2010,05:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,05:33)
    Hi Terraricca,

    Are you still waiting for this to happen?…

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
    and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    Heb.9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that
    look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed  That has nothing to do with when Christ returnes….Irene


    Hi Irene,

    That's what happened on Pentecost.

    What do you say those verses mean then?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220648
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,12:33)
    Hi Terraricca,

    Are you still waiting for this to happen?…

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
    and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    Heb.9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that
    look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    you are the twister of scriptures ,your comment is without value,;;
    Heb 9:27 People have to die once. After that, God will judge them.
    Heb 9:28 In the same way, Christ was offered up once. He took away the sins of many people.
    He will also come a second time. At that time he will not suffer for sin. Instead, he will come to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him

    and as for the next scripture you quote;;Jn 14:23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love him. We will come to him and make our home with him.

    it seems you did not reach that point yet,you have a problem to obey Gods words,you like to make people obey you and your blah,blah

    Pierre

    #220652
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Irene………..Why did not Jesus ever say He was a “SPIRIT BEING” before he ever came to earth then” If it is there lets see it, Your speculations mean nothing if (SPECIFIC) Scripture do not say that , it then is just your speculation based on your religion views. IMO

    peace and love………………………..gene

    #220654
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2010,06:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,12:33)
    Hi Terraricca,

    Are you still waiting for this to happen?…

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
    and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    Heb.9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that
    look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    you are the twister of scriptures ,your comment is without value,;;
    Heb 9:27 People have to die once. After that, God will judge them.
    Heb 9:28 In the same way, Christ was offered up once. He took away the sins of many people.
    He will also come a second time. At that time he will not suffer for sin. Instead, he will come to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him

    and as for the next scripture you quote;;Jn 14:23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love him. We will come to him and make our home with him.

    it seems you did not reach that point yet,you have a problem to obey Gods words,you like to make people obey you and your blah,blah

    Pierre


    False!

    I teach people to reject the blah blah! (Click Here)
    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name,
    saying, 'i am'; and shall deceive many.

    ed j
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220655
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Terraricca,

    2Tm.3:12-13 Yea(Ed J), and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
    But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

    #220658
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,06:15)

    Quote (Baker @ Oct. 21 2010,05:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,05:33)
    Hi Terraricca,

    Are you still waiting for this to happen?…

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
    and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    Heb.9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that
    look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed  That has nothing to do with when Christ returnes….Irene


    Hi Irene,

    That's what happened on Pentecost.

    What do you say those verses mean then?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    This amazes me, just plain Scriptures teaching us to obey God. Keep My commandments and He gave them to us, don't you know them????? I guess you numbers have blocked them out. Christ died once for all of our Sins, no more sacrifices needed…..On Pentecost the Apostles received the Holy Spirit and we too have received the Holy Spirit at our Baptism…..Were you baptized yet???? I wonder with your numbers and quotations………Irene

    #220661
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,13:50)
    Hi Terraricca,

    2Tm.3:12-13 Yea(Ed J), and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
    But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)


    edj

    you really think you can deceive me ,you really think i am blind

    that i have no knowledge in Gods word,

    that i live as a carnal person ,were the emotions are the standard,

    just like you imply that yourself be persecuted ,wen people tell stories who does not fit in scriptures and others show them is errors you call that persecution?

    Pierre

    #220663
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Irene,

    Ah, so we meet again!

    It is OK when you say…

    Quote
    don't you know them?

    But when I say…

    Quote
    Know your Bible

    You cry foul…

    Quote
    I am really getting sick and tired of the likes of you getting personal

    Is this not a double standard?

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220665
    shimmer
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 21 2010,01:59)
    Here is something scary………..Rev 20:12………> And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and (THE DEAD) were Judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works> The scary part is that are these brought back to life or are they still dead and their Past lives analyzed and Judged by these books that are already written and recorded of the Past life when they were alive.

    Perhaps those that are who are not written in the book of life will not even come back to life but remain dead , not sure of this, i am just speculation based on the wordings It does not say the dead are brought back and judged out of the books.  but the dead are judged it kind of say they are still dead when this takes place.  15…..> and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. May GOD help us all to be found worthy of Life and written in the book of Life. I think there is a lot of factor involved in all of this that we may not fully understand.

    Peace and love to you and yours………………………gene


    Quote
    I think there is a lot of factor involved in all of this that we may not fully understand.

    Gene, I agree with that. There will be alot we dont understand, were only human, we can only try our best,

    #220666
    shimmer
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 21 2010,02:14)
    Shimmer………..I am not worried about you being confused the Spirit will guide you and the sound sense it give you will bring every though into judgement. “THE SPIRIT ITSELF SHALL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS” Continue to trust in GOD , remember Jesus said you shall all be taught by GOD. That is True, listen to what others say but bring it through the filter of the HOLY Spirit  which is the SPIRIT(INTELLECT) of TRUTH. “Try the spirits (intellects) to see if they are of GOD”,  or NOT. God has chosen to open you mind and no man or women can close it, and you will see as all who have the Spirit of God sees.

    peace and love to you and yours Shimmer…………………….gene


    Thanks Gene.

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