Pentecost was jesus second coming

[terraricca]

Quote (ftk @ Nov. 12 2011,04:49)

Pierre: No matter how many scriptures I quote you will only be convinced by your own faith. Just remember that whatever scriptures and events you set off as future happenings, you will never partake of. You have the present and the past and the past is only a memory!  TK

tk

     

what an answer to my scriptures ,you say to others what you are expert to do to them,

Pierre

[ftk]

Pierre;…….Mt 28:20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” what and when is the end of the age ??

Isn't being “born again” the leaving behind of “old thing passed away”….and the new age is…”all things become new”…! Haven't we entered into a “New Covenant” with God through Jesus. Wasn't the old test. way of physical works, sacrifices, rituals, etc., and the New age is Gods words/spirit/life to all who accept Jesus? Isn't this the harvest time of God. Didn't Jesus say look on the fields they are RIPE for harvest. Ready for harvest! At the end of the age(now) the reaping begins of harvest unto God.

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Rev 6:16 They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
Rev 6:17 For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?”

Anyone found hiding from God or Jesus is in “fear”. There is no faith in fear! The wrath of God (or the lamb) or the Holy Spirit which comes burning like fire…intend to burn up the chaff and leave the wheat. The wheat is to be gathered into the barn and saved. The tares, the chaff, the evil thinking spirits/words must all be burned away and leave the original love core in humanity created by God.

Those who keep thinking physically and refuse to “see” and “hear” spiritually through understanding God will be burned and destroyed from this earth. Sickness and disease is more common in the so called Church than it has ever been. Cancers eat the human body alive. That was the enemy of Jesus so that is the enemy I come against. Its all a form of Death from the mind. TK

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tk

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Isn't being “born again” the leaving behind of “old thing passed away”….and the new age is…”all things become new”…! Haven't we entered into a “New Covenant” with God through Jesus. Wasn't the old test. way of physical works, sacrifices, rituals, etc., and the New age is Gods words/spirit/life to all who accept Jesus? Isn't this the harvest time of God. Didn't Jesus say look on the fields they are RIPE for harvest. Ready for harvest! At the end of the age(now) the reaping begins of harvest unto God.

MT 13:30 ‘Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn.””’

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Those who keep thinking physically and refuse to “see” and “hear” spiritually through understanding God will be burned and destroyed from this earth. Sickness and disease is more common in the so called Church than it has ever been. Cancers eat the human body alive. That was the enemy of Jesus so that is the enemy I come against. Its all a form of Death from the mind. TK

God as created the physical universe to be for ever ,and he as no intention to destroy it or letting it to be destroyed by others ,the fact that we die is because of Adam sin ,of this we have Christ and many will be saved and live on the earth in and under the new earth and heaven.

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 04 2011,04:10)

Ed, Show me from scriptures that Jesus's second coming happened at pentecost.

Hi Mike, you can start with these:

“Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28)

“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28)

“If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

“But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.” (Luke 9:27)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Okay Ed,

Pick the one you want to start with, and tell me why you think it says Jesus's second coming occured at Pentecost.

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,05:20)

“Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28)

Hi Mike,

Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave,
but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation.

Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling
in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17)

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with power (Jesus' Pentecost):
who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (also see Matt.3:11)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

None of what you've posted so far says that Christ's SECOND COMING has occured.

What else ya got?

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 06 2011,09:33)

None of what you've posted so far says that Christ's SECOND COMING has occured. What else ya got?

Hi Mike,

An atheist would also proclaim that no bible verse can make them believe in a god.
However, as long as you are willing to consider the evidence,
I will proceed. I'll be back in a little while.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

I have yet to see any “evidence”, but carry on.

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 06 2011,10:24)

Ed, the parts of scripture where you and I disagree are the parts where I remain adhered to the scriptures while you forego the scriptures for your own imagination.

Hi Mike,

“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28)

This verse is PRETTY cut and dry, why do you NOT believe that this is talking about Pentecost?   …what do you believe it means?

Certainly some of these same people were in Jerusalem during the Pentecost outpouring; do you disagree?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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edj

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This verse is PRETTY cut and dry, why do you NOT believe that this is talking about Pentecost?

read your bible and read the story about Steven ,you know the one that has been stoned with Paul (Saul) hold the coats ,and supporting the lapidation,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,15:16)

edj Quote This verse is PRETTY cut and dry, why do you NOT believe that this is talking about Pentecost?   read your bible and read the story about Steven ,you know the one that has been stoned with Paul (Saul) hold the coats ,and supporting the lapidation, Pierre

PIERRE,

And how exactly does this apply to what we are talking about…

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 06 2011,22:10)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 06 2011,10:24) Ed, the parts of scripture where you and I disagree are the parts where I remain adhered to the scriptures while you forego the scriptures for your own imagination. Hi Mike, “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28) This verse is PRETTY cut and dry, why do you NOT believe that this is talking about Pentecost?   …what do you believe it means? Certainly some of these same people were in Jerusalem during the Pentecost outpouring; do you disagree? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

I have answered this quote of yours ,read it

Pierre

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,15:19)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,05:20)   “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Hi Mike, Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with power (Jesus' Pentecost): who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (also see Matt.3:11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

You should read the scriptures related to the baptism of Christ again ,because it does not support what you are saying

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,17:01)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,15:19) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,05:20)   “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Hi Mike, Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with power (Jesus' Pentecost): who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (also see Matt.3:11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ You should read the scriptures related to the baptism of Christ again ,because it does not support what you are saying Pierre

Hi Pierre,

Why don't you first make a point, rather than only
telling me where your point is supposedly corroborated.

It might help?
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:28)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,17:01) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,15:19) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,05:20)   “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Hi Mike, Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with power (Jesus' Pentecost): who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (also see Matt.3:11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ You should read the scriptures related to the baptism of Christ again ,because it does not support what you are saying Pierre Hi Pierre, Why don't you first make a point, rather than only telling me where your point is supposedly corroborated. It might help? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

Can it be that if you would read those scriptures ,you would not be able to see where is it that you are going ashtray ?

And so you want me to point out in detail the speck were you mist the understanding ?

Is it not your responsibility to make sure that what you say is true,at the least scriptural?

So if you understand what you saying and compair scriptures to it if it does not support it do not say it,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:01)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:28) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,17:01) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,15:19) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,05:20)   “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Hi Mike, Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with power (Jesus' Pentecost): who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (also see Matt.3:11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ You should read the scriptures related to the baptism of Christ again ,because it does not support what you are saying Pierre Hi Pierre, Why don't you first make a point, rather than only telling me where your point is supposedly corroborated. It might help? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ Can it be that if you would read those scriptures ,you would not be able to see where is it that you are going ashtray ? And so you want me to point out in detail the speck were you mist the understanding ? Is it not your responsibility to make sure that what you say is true,at the least scriptural? So if you understand what you saying and compair scriptures to it if it does not support it do not say it, Pierre

Hi Pierre,

Do you 'think' that by you saying…  'it does not mean that'  …has any value to persuade anyone?

If you want others to take you seriously, you NEED an alternate explanation; which you obviously do NOT have!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:13)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:01) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:28) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,17:01) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,15:19) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,05:20)   “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Hi Mike, Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with power (Jesus' Pentecost): who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (also see Matt.3:11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ You should read the scriptures related to the baptism of Christ again ,because it does not support what you are saying Pierre Hi Pierre, Why don't you first make a point, rather than only telling me where your point is supposedly corroborated. It might help? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ Can it be that if you would read those scriptures ,you would not be able to see where is it that you are going ashtray ? And so you want me to point out in detail the speck were you mist the understanding ? Is it not your responsibility to make sure that what you say is true,at the least scriptural? So if you understand what you saying and compair scriptures to it if it does not support it do not say it, Pierre Hi Pierre, Do you 'think' that by you saying…  'it does not mean that'  …has any value to persuade anyone? If you want others to take you seriously, you NEED an alternate explanation; which you obviously do NOT have! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

So you are stuburn and hard to bend your neck,

You are self oriented ,if I would not know the answer I would not say anything ,I would not preach my own ignorance like some do,

If you look in scriptures you would see that the holy spirit that came in the form of a dove never went in Christ this is one,two this was a sign to John that Jesus was the Christ to come,and wen he (John)was he jail and he ask if Christ was the one ,the answer given was to confirm the deeds that the scriptures for told that the Messiha would do,

The truth is that all the miracle that Christ did was done by God on his Behalf so that people could see that he was what he said he was,

The fact that people receive some parts of the holy spirit and so is reflected in their behavior for that time,while it last it,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:32)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:13) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:01) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:28) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,17:01) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,15:19) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,05:20)   “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Hi Mike, Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with power (Jesus' Pentecost): who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (also see Matt.3:11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ You should read the scriptures related to the baptism of Christ again ,because it does not support what you are saying Pierre Hi Pierre, Why don't you first make a point, rather than only telling me where your point is supposedly corroborated. It might help? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ Can it be that if you would read those scriptures ,you would not be able to see where is it that you are going ashtray ? And so you want me to point out in detail the speck were you mist the understanding ? Is it not your responsibility to make sure that what you say is true,at the least scriptural? So if you understand what you saying and compair scriptures to it if it does not support it do not say it, Pierre Hi Pierre, Do you 'think' that by you saying…  'it does not mean that'  …has any value to persuade anyone? If you want others to take you seriously, you NEED an alternate explanation; which you obviously do NOT have! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ So you are stuburn and hard to bend your neck, You are self oriented ,if I would not know the answer I would not say anything ,I would not preach my own ignorance like some do, If you look in scriptures you would see that the holy spirit that came in the form of a dove never went in Christ this is one,two this was a sign to John that Jesus was the Christ to come,and wen he (John)was he jail and he ask if Christ was the one ,the answer given was to confirm the deeds that the scriptures for told that the Messiha would do, The truth is that all the miracle that Christ did was done by God on his Behalf so that people could see that he was what he said he was, The fact that people receive some parts of the holy spirit and so is reflected in their behavior for that time,while it last it, Pierre

Hi Pierre,

How does your last post have anything to do with what we are talking about?
Hebrews 9:28 is the focus, perhaps you are mistakenly thinking it was Acts 10:38?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

edj

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Hi Pierre, How does your last post have anything to do with what we are talking about? Hebrews 9:28 is the focus, perhaps you are mistakenly thinking it was Acts 10:38? God bless

by responding to Mike with those scriptures that had nothing to do with what he was saying,I felt free to comment on it ,

Pierre

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