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- July 17, 2010 at 2:44 pm#204491
GeneBalthrop
ParticipantED J……….What support?, I absolutely Know the day of Pentecost was fifty days after Jesus' death, and He did not reappear on Pentecost but sent the Spirit of Truth from GOD the Father and It was poured out on that day and thousands were saved that very day.
Where do you come up with all these Private interpretations of yours any way. A mind can come up with all kinds of conclusion especially if it only draw from a few unrelated scripture and tries to force scripture to say what in fact it does not say. That is you problem Here drawing all kinds of conclusion without true support. IMO
peace and love………………………..gene
July 18, 2010 at 4:48 am#204650Oxy
Participant…..and I thought Gene was supporting me lol.
I have been in and out of heaven.web.nz on a number of occasions and designed that avatar especially for this place, because you are absolutely right Gene, you just can't win here.
And no, heaven.web.nz isn't a typo because rather than it being a net bringing in good returns, it is a web of confusion with its legacy including many who have become confused and left the faith.
July 18, 2010 at 4:50 am#204651NickHassan
ParticipantHi Oxy,
Why would YOU want to win?
learning is the hope.July 18, 2010 at 4:56 am#204657Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2010,01:44) ED J……….What support?, I absolutely Know the day of Pentecost was fifty days after Jesus' death, and He did not reappear on Pentecost but sent the Spirit of Truth from GOD the Father and It was poured out on that day and thousands were saved that very day. Where do you come up with all these Private interpretations of yours any way. A mind can come up with all kinds of conclusion especially if it only draw from a few unrelated scripture and tries to force scripture to say what in fact it does not say. That is you problem Here drawing all kinds of conclusion without true support. IMO
peace and love………………………..gene
Hi Gene,Pentecost was 50 days after the resurrection.
Jesus walked around for 10, then they had to wait 40 days more. [10+40=50]God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 18, 2010 at 5:32 am#204673Oxy
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 18 2010,17:50) Hi Oxy,
Why would YOU want to win?
learning is the hope.
Learning is good, but hearing is better.July 18, 2010 at 6:22 am#204689NickHassan
ParticipantHi Oxy,
Good call.
Hear the Word of God as that is where faith grows from.
The Spirit of the Father [Mt10]wrote it and can teach you if you put aside your preconceptions.July 18, 2010 at 6:29 am#204698Oxy
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 18 2010,19:22) Hi Oxy,
Good call.
Hear the Word of God as that is where faith grows from.
The Spirit of the Father [Mt10]wrote it and can teach you if you put aside your preconceptions.
Nick, you have yet to convince me that the Scriptures are the Word of God when my Bibles (all 7 of them) tell me that the Word became flesh.How do you “hear” the Bible? You don't. You read the Bible.
However, when the Word (Jesus) speaks, He is able to be heard by those that have ears to hear.
July 18, 2010 at 6:58 am#204703NickHassan
ParticipantHi Oxy,
Indeed the Spirit of Christ was given to Jesus and now his brothers.July 18, 2010 at 9:58 am#204744Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,17:29) How do you “hear” the Bible?
Hi Oxy,When someone reads it (out loud) to you; duh?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 18, 2010 at 2:15 pm#204768GeneBalthrop
ParticipantQuote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,15:48) …..and I thought Gene was supporting me lol. I have been in and out of heaven.web.nz on a number of occasions and designed that avatar especially for this place, because you are absolutely right Gene, you just can't win here.
And no, heaven.web.nz isn't a typo because rather than it being a net bringing in good returns, it is a web of confusion with its legacy including many who have become confused and left the faith.
Oxy……..As nick said winning is not the point brother, i meant that to mean you can't seem to get you point across sometimes. It seems we go around and around and no matter how many scriptures we quote and show plainly they are not recieved by the one with the opposite view, but we all at time are guilty of that right? That is why i wish we could establish a system of forcing others to comply to a set of rules that when a question is ask the other person must answer it specifically or admit they simply can't Like for instance if I ask you to show (SPECIFICALLY) how flesh can become a word. That to me is impossible for flesh to literally be come a word.I do fully understand How the word of GOD can be in a flesh person though, As Nick said the Christos or Anointing. I understand that. But do you get my point here , we do not want you to get discouraged and quit posting so if we could figure out some way of causing these Posts to be (specific) to questions ask i believe this would help us all grow, it this splintering of that seem to be the big problem here.
Oxy you are indeed loved Here brother, so go back to your old avatar because your head is getting sore by now brother.
peace and love to you and yours oxy…………………….gene
July 18, 2010 at 4:03 pm#204783terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,23:32) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 18 2010,17:50) Hi Oxy,
Why would YOU want to win?
learning is the hope.
Learning is good, but hearing is better.
oxyyou have it wrong;learning is better,than hearing;
Christ says they hear the word but they do not understand it ,what good is that?
Pierre
July 18, 2010 at 10:50 pm#204832Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ July 19 2010,01:15) Oxy…….. 1) It seems we go around and around and no matter how many scriptures we quote and show plainly they are not recieved by the one with the opposite view, but we all at time are guilty of that right?
2) That is why i wish we could establish a system of forcing others to comply to a set of rules that when a question is ask the other person must answer it specifically or admit they simply can't (3)Like for instance if I ask you to show (SPECIFICALLY) how flesh can become a word. That to me is impossible for flesh to literally be come a word.
…………………..gene
Hi Gene,1) Not if your looking for the Truth part of what the other believes!
2) Forcing others goes against “Free Will”!
(3) OK show us all where it says we have an 'influenced will'?
If you CAN'T, then admit that 'you' can't ! ! !!!!!!Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 18, 2010 at 10:54 pm#204833NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
The Spirit of God is given in portions[2Kings 2.9]
The portion of the ONE SPIRIT given to Christ Jesus is shared with his Body till he returns.July 18, 2010 at 10:59 pm#204834NickHassan
ParticipantHi ED,
God is not apportioned.
God is oneJuly 18, 2010 at 11:10 pm#204838Ed J
ParticipantNick's Quotes
'The Spirit of God is given in portions'
'God is not apportioned'.These two statements appear to be opposite of each other; please explain?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 18, 2010 at 11:12 pm#204839NickHassan
ParticipantHi ED,
They do not need explanation except by those who think God is just His Spirit.
The Spirit is OF God.July 19, 2010 at 6:23 am#204939Oxy
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ July 19 2010,05:03) Quote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,23:32) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 18 2010,17:50) Hi Oxy,
Why would YOU want to win?
learning is the hope.
Learning is good, but hearing is better.
oxyyou have it wrong;learning is better,than hearing;
Christ says they hear the word but they do not understand it ,what good is that?
Pierre
We will have to agree to differ. At the end of the day you can be a Christian without the Bible, but you can't be a Christian without Christ.The Bible would be meaningless to me without Christ and the Holy Spirit, but He brings meaning to the things I read, but more important than that, the Lord directs my path and tells me that which He requires of me. Note, I said He tells me, using His voice.
I would much rather hear His voice and know His direction than be a learned scholar of the Scriptures. Some of the world's greatest theologians don't know the Lord.
July 20, 2010 at 7:07 am#205072Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Oxy @ July 19 2010,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2010,05:03) Quote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,23:32) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 18 2010,17:50) Hi Oxy,
Why would YOU want to win?
learning is the hope.
Learning is good, but hearing is better.
oxyyou have it wrong;learning is better,than hearing;
Christ says they hear the word but they do not understand it ,what good is that?
Pierre
We will have to agree to differ. At the end of the day you can be a Christian without the Bible, but you can't be a Christian without Christ.The Bible would be meaningless to me without Christ and the Holy Spirit, but He brings meaning to the things I read, but more important than that, the Lord directs my path and tells me that which He requires of me. Note, I said He tells me, using His voice.
I would much rather hear His voice and know His direction than be a learned scholar of the Scriptures. Some of the world's greatest theologians don't know the Lord.
Hi Oxy,Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shall keep them, O LORD(YHVH), thou shall preserve them(in The AKJV Bible) from this generation forever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips “and another tongue” will (That is: in English) “HE” speak to this people.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJuly 20, 2010 at 9:33 am#205084NickHassan
ParticipantHi OXY,
But when you are shown the words of God you shun them.
How can you be sure you hear the Author?July 21, 2010 at 6:15 am#205268Oxy
ParticipantQuote (Ed J @ July 20 2010,20:07) Quote (Oxy @ July 19 2010,17:23) Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2010,05:03) Quote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,23:32) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 18 2010,17:50) Hi Oxy,
Why would YOU want to win?
learning is the hope.
Learning is good, but hearing is better.
oxyyou have it wrong;learning is better,than hearing;
Christ says they hear the word but they do not understand it ,what good is that?
Pierre
We will have to agree to differ. At the end of the day you can be a Christian without the Bible, but you can't be a Christian without Christ.The Bible would be meaningless to me without Christ and the Holy Spirit, but He brings meaning to the things I read, but more important than that, the Lord directs my path and tells me that which He requires of me. Note, I said He tells me, using His voice.
I would much rather hear His voice and know His direction than be a learned scholar of the Scriptures. Some of the world's greatest theologians don't know the Lord.
Hi Oxy,Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shall keep them, O LORD(YHVH), thou shall preserve them(in The AKJV Bible) from this generation forever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips “and another tongue” will (That is: in English) “HE” speak to this people.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I agree that the words of the LORD are pure, but they are not limited to Scripture. - AuthorPosts
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