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The Greatest Lie Ever Told
by Stan Hallett2 Corinthians 11:14,15
Who could tell the greatest lie? The answer is simple, the father of all lies who is none other than satan himself (John 8:44). What would one consider a perfect crime? Would it not be a crime where any evidence to the contrary would be hidden or could not be found? A perfect lie is one that is so near the truth that the person being deceived actually believes they have obtained what it is that the liar does not want them to have.
He starts out by telling them that this Christianity stuff isn't for them, and it works most of the time. But when they insist, he tricks them into accepting a fake form of Godliness. The apostle Paul talks about this in 2 Timothy 3:1-7 where he says: “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” Most “Christians” today have a form of Godliness but deny the power thereof. These are ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of truth. The deceived person believes that they in fact have obtained it.Slick sales people try to do this all the time. They try to convince you that what they are selling you is the best buy for your money, it's the genuine article, it's the best there is, and they have the best deal for you. You've been fooled this way before. We've all been taken by the con artist, the liar and the thief. How much better at lying and deception is the master of liars, the master of con men, the master of thieves?
You say “how could he do this”? Surely you'd recognized satan and his lies. But the Bible says that satan can appear as angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). Further it says in the very next verse: “it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness”. That's right! There are men appearing as great men of God preaching to great crowds that they gather unto themselves. They are ministers of satan sent to deceive the masses, and indeed the masses are being deceived.
What is this greatest lie ever told? What is this great deception that is being preached by ministers of satan that are posing as great men of God across this country and the world? What is this lie that has deceived millions into believing that they are saved? The lie is the one that says that all you have to do is: “accept Jesus as your personal savior and you are saved.”
There are slightly different versions and variations to the lie, such as saying a little prayer, or asking forgiveness for all your sins, or a prayer of repentance along with accepting Jesus as your savior, but they are all lies, all deception and all part of the greatest lie that satan ever told.
You may say; “Wait a minute, isn't this in the Bible?” . . . Nope, not there. There is not one word in God's Word that says that all you have to do is accept Jesus as your personal savior and you are then eternally saved.” There is not one word that says “simply say a little prayer and perhaps ask for forgiveness, or a prayer of repentance and you are saved.” There is not one single verse that says that “if you believe in Jesus Christ you will be saved”. . . not one.
So where did this come from? It came from satan influenced, twisting of scripture and adding and taking away from the Word of God.
Here are some of the popular verses that you might be quoted that are in the Bible that satan tries to twist to get you to swallow his lie:
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” – John 3:16
They use this scripture to say that if you just believe in Jesus you'll be saved. The devil takes this one scripture, twists it and makes a doctrine out of it. What this verse is saying in truth is that if you believe in him, or in other words if you believe that he is Lord and Savior then with that belief you should obey the word of the Lord and be saved. If you indeed believe that He is Lord and Savior then you should not perish but act on what you believe and act on the gospel and be saved.
Jesus never said all you have to do to be saved is just believe in me. The Bible says that even the devils believe and tremble (James 2:19). What He did say is “except a man be born or water and of Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God” (John 3:5). What He did say was “…strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it”. (Matthew 7:14) Paul said: “Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
There's another scripture that says; “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name” (John 1:12).
This may seemingly give credence to the belief that “if you'll just receive Jesus as your personal savior and you'll be saved”. But that's not what it says at all! What it does say is that IF you truly receive Him as your Lord and Savior then you have the power to BECOME the son of God, even to them that believe on His name. It does not say if you believe in him you ARE saved, but that IF you believe on Him and IF you receive Him as your LORD and SAVIOR then indeed you HAVE the power to BECOME the sons of God and be saved.
satan twists the meaning of Ephesians 2:8,9 which says: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” He tries to get this to mean that we do not have to do anything including obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be saved. This doctrine claims that obeying John 3:5 or Acts 2:38, or any other scripture is a work and not required to be saved.
Yes, it is true that Jesus paid it all on the cross. It is true that we cannot earn our own salvation by doing good works or any other means. But obeying the Gospel of Jesus Christ is NOT a work, it is obedience. Neither can you earn it by obedience, but only it is only through obedience to the Gospel are you saved.
2 Thessalonians 1:7,8 says; “…when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
If indeed obedience to the Gospel is a work, if true repentance is a work, if being baptized in His name is a work and not necessary for salvation, then indeed praying the “sinners prayer” or “accepting Jesus as your personal savior” is also a work and not needed by the rules of this very same twisted doctrine.
No, we cannot earn salvation. We are not worthy of it no matter what we do. It is indeed by grace we are saved and not of ourselves lest any man should boast. However, if we truly accept Him as Lord and Savior, then being our Lord means that we are to be obedient to Him. If we are not obedient to Him then we are saying He is not our Lord thus we have NOT accepted Him as Lord and savior and we are liars.
In Acts 16:30 the jailer asked Paul and Silas; “Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”
Many again use this to somehow say that all is needed is to believe in Him. But Paul sand Silas were not saying that they needed to believe in Jesus like some children believe in Santa Claus. To believe on Jesus means to put our
trust in Him for who He is, our Lord and our Savior. For indeed if he is our Lord we will be obedient to His Word. If we do not obey His Word then we are liars and He is not our Lord and we do not believe on Him.Most “Christians” today want the Savior part, but do not want a Lord. They want the benefit, but not what they consider to be a price that comes with it. They want to be saved but still do as they please. They want to be assured they are going to heaven and still enjoy the pleasures of this world. satan gives them exactly what they want. . . at least they think they have it. They've been duped by the greatest lie ever told!
We are either a slave to satan or a servant of Jesus, there is no in between.
What to know how to be saved, really? Read “Salvation in a Nutshell” at http://apostolic-voice.org/tracts/nutshell.htm
Tonycb,
A person who truly believes is going to get baptized for the remission of sins. Faith is what pleases God, not Baptism. The scripture says “He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.” Mark 16:16 NKJV Notice in the second half it stops with believing. We are saved by faith, and faith causes the action, which comes from God.
Quote (Tonycb @ May 24 2008,07:57) Slick sales people try to do this all the time. They try to convince you that what they are selling you is the best buy for your money, it's the genuine article, it's the best there is, and they have the best deal for you. You've been fooled this way before. We've all been taken by the con artist, the liar and the thief. How much better at lying and deception is the master of liars, the master of con men, the master of thieves?
Corrrect.We should never underestimate how much deception there is in the world. Some just think that this idea is too incredible to believe. They think if most believe it, then it must be true, because what chance does a minority have?
Lies such as the Trinity Doctrine, Oneness, Evolution, etc.
Hope we are all on the same track brothers T8, Gene, Tony and other brothers and sisters in this forum.
Peace to you all.
Adamgollamudi…….we all may have some differences, but overall were pretty much in agreement and remember the old saying iron sharpen iron. Non of us have it all, we are growing in grace and knowledge, and will continue until we all come to the full measure of Christ.
peace to you and yours Adam………………..gene
Hi,
Jesus Christ is the son of God, he said so.
This gives the lie to the trinity and oneness doctrines.Yes my borther it is as simple as that there is God and there is also a son of that God called Jesus.
Hi Samuel,
I moved your post here.
“I have a question.How does one profess to have a complete understanding of the fullness of GOD?
When no man hath seen GOD at anytime. Jesus stated this himself.
If no man has ever even seen the fullness of GOD, how can you even begin to start trying to comprend his fullness?
GOD only knows how hard it was be even if you have seen his fullness.
I do agree that according to the scripture, and what it says about being baptized, that In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ is the correct words to utter while performing this, among other things, like saying grace over your meal…In Jesus' Name, Praying for you Wisdom in Jesus' Name.
But there are some scriptures that rise questions to this Oneness belief.
There is a pacicular story that states that All power in Heaven and Earth is given to JESUS. And that he should regin till he puts all things and enemies under him…or makes them his foot stool. Then, it says that he will turn everything back over to HIM. So…either JESUS is going to be remanifest back into spirit and however it works cause I don't know. Or there is someone else. One of the two.
Then Jesus did not …well we don't know for sure that he did not know. But he did state that know man knew, the day or hour, not the angles, or the son. Essentially, refering to himself in the third person.
He instructed us to pray to GOD, and to ask GOD for all things in HIS NAME. And all that we ask in HIS NAME shall be given.
Indeed it it very convincing both ways…actually.
I have seen scriptures where it says such things as “Hear O' Israel the Lord thy GOD is One GOD.”
But then David says that he seen His Lord say to His Lord.
Then When Jesus was Baptized Jesus was in the flesh, while the spirit of the Holy Ghost desended as a Dove, and the Father spoke with a voice from heaven saying “This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased”
Then Stephen while he was being stoned to death looked up and saw Jesus on the Right hand of the father.
So what gives then?
Oneness will rather die than believe Trinity.
Trinity would rather die than believe Oneness.I mean its flat out driving me nuts the way this thing is going down.
To hear people bickering back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.
And making people feel like they don't know GOD and don't believe in JESUS or that he came and died in the flesh on the cross for their sins.
THAT IS COMPLETE DEVILERY!
I'm sick of hearing it.
GOD Loves every single person on the face of this earth just as much as he loves everyone.
That translates to this….
HE LOVES ONENESS JUST THE SAME AS TRINITY
AND HE LOVES TRINITY JUST AS MUCH AS HE DOES ONENESSTo say other wise is to call GOD a lair.
So get over it already…please
Sounds like a bunch of 5 year olds
Samuel, What would you like to know. I am a Oneness believer that does not pressure my posit upon others. I found the revelation of the One God in Jesus without knowing there were others like me. I searched His Word for more than 24 years and He revealed Himself thru His Word (Logos). I then found others that believe like I do (UPCI is were I worship) but I must say that they can be a little narrow minded in the way they deal with others. Let us first and foremost establish a foundation to communicate on…I will NOT belittle nor berate you for your views, but will with all diligence try to have a valid exchange of postive ideas. All I ask is for you to do the same. Agreed?
Hi Aza,
So what of Jesus the man?Acts2
22Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
God is not a manQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 06 2009,10:11) Hi Samuel,
I moved your post here.
“I have a question.How does one profess to have a complete understanding of the fullness of GOD?
When no man hath seen GOD at anytime. Jesus stated this himself.
If no man has ever even seen the fullness of GOD, how can you even begin to start trying to comprend his fullness?
GOD only knows how hard it was be even if you have seen his fullness.
I do agree that according to the scripture, and what it says about being baptized, that In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ is the correct words to utter while performing this, among other things, like saying grace over your meal…In Jesus' Name, Praying for you Wisdom in Jesus' Name.
But there are some scriptures that rise questions to this Oneness belief.
There is a pacicular story that states that All power in Heaven and Earth is given to JESUS. And that he should regin till he puts all things and enemies under him…or makes them his foot stool. Then, it says that he will turn everything back over to HIM. So…either JESUS is going to be remanifest back into spirit and however it works cause I don't know. Or there is someone else. One of the two.
Then Jesus did not …well we don't know for sure that he did not know. But he did state that know man knew, the day or hour, not the angles, or the son. Essentially, refering to himself in the third person.
He instructed us to pray to GOD, and to ask GOD for all things in HIS NAME. And all that we ask in HIS NAME shall be given.
Indeed it it very convincing both ways…actually.
I have seen scriptures where it says such things as “Hear O' Israel the Lord thy GOD is One GOD.”
But then David says that he seen His Lord say to His Lord.
Then When Jesus was Baptized Jesus was in the flesh, while the spirit of the Holy Ghost desended as a Dove, and the Father spoke with a voice from heaven saying “This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased”
Then Stephen while he was being stoned to death looked up and saw Jesus on the Right hand of the father.
So what gives then?
Oneness will rather die than believe Trinity.
Trinity would rather die than believe Oneness.I mean its flat out driving me nuts the way this thing is going down.
To hear people bickering back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.
And making people feel like they don't know GOD and don't believe in JESUS or that he came and died in the flesh on the cross for their sins.
THAT IS COMPLETE DEVILERY!
I'm sick of hearing it.
GOD Loves every single person on the face of this earth just as much as he loves everyone.
That translates to this….
HE LOVES ONENESS JUST THE SAME AS TRINITY
AND HE LOVES TRINITY JUST AS MUCH AS HE DOES ONENESSTo say other wise is to call GOD a lair.
So get over it already…please
Sounds like a bunch of 5 year olds
Nick,I am confused as to what made you so angry here. Could you explain.
TC27
Hi TC,
Are you speaking of the person I quoted?
I have said nothing except moving the post to the appropriate threadQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 09 2009,12:18) Hi TC,
Are you speaking of the person I quoted?
I have said nothing except moving the post to the appropriate thread
Nick,Oh ok, it confused me because I never see you talk like that. Haha.
TC27
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