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  • #360790
    Wakeup
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    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.

    #360943
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic

    #361108
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2013,15:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic


    Boditharta.

    The gospels was preached after christ ascension.
    There were seven churches in asia minor;and Christ has given them all,warnings to straighten up.

    Since then on: The established churches has become corrupt
    and taken over by the Roman Church.
    But the true believers continued preaching.

    The written Word of God is preserved by God,
    up to now. True believers exist today.
    There is no need for the qur'an.
    In the last days many false prophets shall arise.

    #361477
    Cyrus
    Participant

    This whole question is a waste of time even answering it has gone on for the last 6ooo years & there is still no resolution to this answer. It is who He is, not what He is Ps 50 :21 You have made me as you are!!! and He is not as we are. If you really want to know about The Lord God stop asking fruitless dumb questions, Truly repent from your sins and get Born Again,to the Bone washed with the Blood & filled with the Holy Spirit. Your life is a dead loss if you are still pondering such questions, stop wasting peoples time & life's and read the Bible from Cover to cover and you might develop some faith :p

    Cyrus

    #361498
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Cyrus @ Nov. 08 2013,16:50)
    This whole question is a waste of time even answering it has gone on for the last 6ooo years & there is still no resolution to this answer. It is who He is, not what He is Ps 50 :21 You have made me as you are!!! and He is not as we are. If you really want to know about The Lord God stop asking fruitless dumb questions, Truly repent from your sins and get Born Again,to the Bone washed with the Blood  & filled with the Holy Spirit. Your life is a dead loss if you are still pondering such questions, stop wasting peoples time & life's and read the Bible from Cover to cover and you might develop some faith   :p

    Cyrus


    Cyrus.

    This subject has indeed been discussed for
    thousands of years,but they are not true seekers.
    The genuine true seekers need a little help,
    and we are to be fruitful.
    We can not hide our penny in the sand.
    Bodi is seeking.

    wakeup.

    #361647
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,04:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2013,15:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic


    Boditharta.

    The gospels was preached after christ ascension.
    There were seven churches in asia minor;and Christ has given them all,warnings to straighten up.

    Since then on: The established churches has become corrupt
    and taken over by the Roman Church.
    But the true believers continued preaching.

    The written Word of God is preserved by God,
    up to now. True believers exist today.
    There is no need for the qur'an.
    In the last days many false prophets shall arise.


    As I said you have a bias logic. Your explanation would also make the Orthodox Jews of today completely right for rejecting Christianity.

    You believe in progressive revelation just as I do but you just stop where you are comfortable and that's okay.

    You accept the fact that Jesus was “only” sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel but then somehow you believe that he wasn't ONLY sent to them but was also sent to the gentiles so was Jesus telling the truth or not.

    He also said Matthew 10:5
    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

    but somehow you find it possible for him to simply change his mind but when it comes to the Quran you basically say “God can't do that” How can you possibly know what God decided to do.

    You eat things that God had made forbidden to others why is that possible? Did God decide it was okay for you but not for them?

    #361648
    2besee
    Participant

    Bod

    You speak of “progressive revelation” and then tell the story of Jesus only being sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
    But it continued on.
    Salvation was then sent to the ends of the earth.

    #361650
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 11 2013,06:44)
    Bod

    You speak of “progressive revelation” and then tell the story of Jesus only being sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
    But it continued on.
    Salvation was then sent to the ends of the earth.


    This is my point exactly. God's arm is not too short to save and not only that he can do it by anyway he sees fit. Otherwise, Jesus would have come as soon as Adam and Eve were disobedient.

    #361666
    2besee
    Participant

    Bod, yes. So Jesus came and salvation through him has gone to the ends of the earth. And even in these end times would you believe that the people who are receiving dreams and visions of Jesus are Muslims?

    Just shows where we are, and how close he is.

    Matthew 24.
    “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.”

    “So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.”

    Luke 21
    “And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and upon the earth distress of nations in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

    Now when these things begin to take place, look up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

    #361771
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 11 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,04:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2013,15:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic


    Boditharta.

    The gospels was preached after christ ascension.
    There were seven churches in asia minor;and Christ has given them all,warnings to straighten up.

    Since then on: The established churches has become corrupt
    and taken over by the Roman Church.
    But the true believers continued preaching.

    The written Word of God is preserved by God,
    up to now. True believers exist today.
    There is no need for the qur'an.
    In the last days many false prophets shall arise.


    As I said you have a bias logic. Your explanation would also make the Orthodox Jews of today completely right for rejecting Christianity.

    You believe in progressive revelation just as I do but you just stop where you are comfortable and that's okay.

    You accept the fact that Jesus was “only” sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel but then somehow you believe that he wasn't ONLY sent to them but was also sent to the gentiles so was Jesus telling the truth or not.

    He also said Matthew 10:5
    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

    but somehow you find it possible for him to simply change his mind but when it comes to the Quran you basically say “God can't do that” How can you possibly know what God decided to do.

    You eat things that God had made forbidden to others why is that possible? Did God decide it was okay for you but not for them?


    Boditharta.

    Study this parable carefully:

    This is about the:

    1.The invatation of the jews.
    2. The rejection by the jews.
    3. The invitation goes to the gentiles.
    4. The destruction at the second coming.
    5.Judgement.

    Matthew 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

    Matthew 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

    Matthew 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

    Matthew 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

    Matthew 22:5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

    Matthew 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

    Matthew 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

    Matthew 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

    Matthew 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

    Matthew 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

    Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

    Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

    Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

    wakeup.

    #361930
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 11 2013,09:23)
    Bod, yes. So Jesus came and salvation through him has gone to the ends of the earth. And even in these end times would you believe that the people who are receiving dreams and visions of Jesus are Muslims?

    Just shows where we are, and how close he is.

    Matthew 24.
    “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.”

    “So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.”

    Luke 21
    “And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and upon the earth distress of nations in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

    Now when these things begin to take place, look up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”


    Muslims have always believed in Christ so that is nothing new. They have always believed that Christ Jesus is returning as well.

    #361931
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 12 2013,13:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 11 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,04:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2013,15:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic


    Boditharta.

    The gospels was preached after christ ascension.
    There were seven churches in asia minor;and Christ has given them all,warnings to straighten up.

    Since then on: The established churches has become corrupt
    and taken over by the Roman Church.
    But the true believers continued preaching.

    The written Word of God is preserved by God,
    up to now. True believers exist today.
    There is no need for the qur'an.
    In the last days many false prophets shall arise.


    As I said you have a bias logic. Your explanation would also make the Orthodox Jews of today completely right for rejecting Christianity.

    You believe in progressive revelation just as I do but you just stop where you are comfortable and that's okay.

    You accept the fact that Jesus was “only” sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel but then somehow you believe that he wasn't ONLY sent to them but was also sent to the gentiles so was Jesus telling the truth or not.

    He also said Matthew 10:5
    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

    but somehow you find it possible for him to simply change his mind but when it comes to the Quran you basically say “God can't do that” How can you possibly know what God decided to do.

    You eat things that God had made forbidden to others why is that possible? Did God decide it was okay for you but not for them?


    Boditharta.

    Study this parable carefully:

    This is about the:

    1.The invatation of the jews.
    2. The rejection by the jews.
    3. The invitation goes to the gentiles.
    4. The destruction at the second coming.
    5.Judgement.

     Matthew 22:1   And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

     Matthew 22:2   The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

     Matthew 22:3   And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

     Matthew 22:4   Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

     Matthew 22:5   But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

     Matthew 22:6   And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

     Matthew 22:7   But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

     Matthew 22:8   Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

     Matthew 22:9   Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

     Matthew 22:10   So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

     Matthew 22:11   And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

     Matthew 22:12   And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

     Matthew 22:13   Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

     Matthew 22:14   For many are called, but few are chosen.

     wakeup.


    This would suggest that Islam is totally accepted since the parable explains to go get EVEYONE

    #361936
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote
    They have always believed that Christ Jesus is returning as well.

    What do Muslims believe regarding the last day?

    #361937
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 14 2013,16:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 12 2013,13:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 11 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,04:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2013,15:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic


    Boditharta.

    The gospels was preached after christ ascension.
    There were seven churches in asia minor;and Christ has given them all,warnings to straighten up.

    Since then on: The established churches has become corrupt
    and taken over by the Roman Church.
    But the true believers continued preaching.

    The written Word of God is preserved by God,
    up to now. True believers exist today.
    There is no need for the qur'an.
    In the last days many false prophets shall arise.


    As I said you have a bias logic. Your explanation would also make the Orthodox Jews of today completely right for rejecting Christianity.

    You believe in progressive revelation just as I do but you just stop where you are comfortable and that's okay.

    You accept the fact that Jesus was “only” sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel but then somehow you believe that he wasn't ONLY sent to them but was also sent to the gentiles so was Jesus telling the truth or not.

    He also said Matthew 10:5
    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

    but somehow you find it possible for him to simply change his mind but when it comes to the Quran you basically say “God can't do that” How can you possibly know what God decided to do.

    You eat things that God had made forbidden to others why is that possible? Did God decide it was okay for you but not for them?


    Boditharta.

    Study this parable carefully:

    This is about the:

    1.The invatation of the jews.
    2. The rejection by the jews.
    3. The invitation goes to the gentiles.
    4. The destruction at the second coming.
    5.Judgement.

     Matthew 22:1   And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

     Matthew 22:2   The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

     Matthew 22:3   And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

     Matthew 22:4   Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

     Matthew 22:5   But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

     Matthew 22:6   And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

     Matthew 22:7   But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

     Matthew 22:8   Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

     Matthew 22:9   Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

     Matthew 22:10   So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

     Matthew 22:11   And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

     Matthew 22:12   And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

     Matthew 22:13   Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

     Matthew 22:14   For many are called, but few are chosen.

     wakeup.


    This would suggest that Islam is totally accepted since the parable explains to go get EVEYONE


    Boditharta.

    Everyone that come to the wedding will be accepted.
    Islam did not come to the wedding,they have their own wedding.They have their own wedding garments on.

    Islam believe in Jesus;and so does the devil.

    wakeup.

    #362026
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 14 2013,20:54)

    Quote
    They have always believed that Christ Jesus is returning as well.

    What do Muslims believe regarding the last day?


    Pretty much the same as you already believe except that God will explain where each religion differed and/or strayed

    #362027
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 14 2013,21:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 14 2013,16:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 12 2013,13:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 11 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,04:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2013,15:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic


    Boditharta.

    The gospels was preached after christ ascension.
    There were seven churches in asia minor;and Christ has given them all,warnings to straighten up.

    Since then on: The established churches has become corrupt
    and taken over by the Roman Church.
    But the true believers continued preaching.

    The written Word of God is preserved by God,
    up to now. True believers exist today.
    There is no need for the qur'an.
    In the last days many false prophets shall arise.


    As I said you have a bias logic. Your explanation would also make the Orthodox Jews of today completely right for rejecting Christianity.

    You believe in progressive revelation just as I do but you just stop where you are comfortable and that's okay.

    You accept the fact that Jesus was “only” sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel but then somehow you believe that he wasn't ONLY sent to them but was also sent to the gentiles so was Jesus telling the truth or not.

    He also said Matthew 10:5
    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

    but somehow you find it possible for him to simply change his mind but when it comes to the Quran you basically say “God can't do that” How can you possibly know what God decided to do.

    You eat things that God had made forbidden to others why is that possible? Did God decide it was okay for you but not for them?


    Boditharta.

    Study this parable carefully:

    This is about the:

    1.The invatation of the jews.
    2. The rejection by the jews.
    3. The invitation goes to the gentiles.
    4. The destruction at the second coming.
    5.Judgement.

     Matthew 22:1   And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

     Matthew 22:2   The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

     Matthew 22:3   And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

     Matthew 22:4   Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

     Matthew 22:5   But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

     Matthew 22:6   And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

     Matthew 22:7   But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

     Matthew 22:8   Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

     Matthew 22:9   Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

     Matthew 22:10   So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

     Matthew 22:11   And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

     Matthew 22:12   And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

     Matthew 22:13   Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

     Matthew 22:14   For many are called, but few are chosen.

     wakeup.


    This would suggest that Islam is totally accepted since the parable explains to go get EVEYONE


    Boditharta.

    Everyone that come to the wedding will be accepted.
    Islam  did not come to the wedding,they have their own wedding.They have their own wedding garments on.

    Islam believe in Jesus;and so does the devil.

    wakeup.


    Jesus disagrees with you

    John 14:2
    In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    #362031
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2013,13:44)

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 14 2013,20:54)

    Quote
    They have always believed that Christ Jesus is returning as well.

    What do Muslims believe regarding the last day?


    Pretty much the same as you already believe except that God will explain where each religion differed and/or strayed

    Hi Bod, I apologize to you for starting a new thread in the debates section, but then changing my mind. I have been personally warned off posting too much on discussion and debate forums. I have been shown where it will lead to, and I have stopped in fear, to say the least.

    So nobody will get much out of me I am afraid :D

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    Pretty much the same as you already believe

    I don't think so somehow.
    How would a Muslim know that Jesus has returned?

    #362249
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2013,11:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 14 2013,21:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 14 2013,16:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 12 2013,13:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 11 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,04:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2013,15:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic


    Boditharta.

    The gospels was preached after christ ascension.
    There were seven churches in asia minor;and Christ has given them all,warnings to straighten up.

    Since then on: The established churches has become corrupt
    and taken over by the Roman Church.
    But the true believers continued preaching.

    The written Word of God is preserved by God,
    up to now. True believers exist today.
    There is no need for the qur'an.
    In the last days many false prophets shall arise.


    As I said you have a bias logic. Your explanation would also make the Orthodox Jews of today completely right for rejecting Christianity.

    You believe in progressive revelation just as I do but you just stop where you are comfortable and that's okay.

    You accept the fact that Jesus was “only” sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel but then somehow you believe that he wasn't ONLY sent to them but was also sent to the gentiles so was Jesus telling the truth or not.

    He also said Matthew 10:5
    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

    but somehow you find it possible for him to simply change his mind but when it comes to the Quran you basically say “God can't do that” How can you possibly know what God decided to do.

    You eat things that God had made forbidden to others why is that possible? Did God decide it was okay for you but not for them?


    Boditharta.

    Study this parable carefully:

    This is about the:

    1.The invatation of the jews.
    2. The rejection by the jews.
    3. The invitation goes to the gentiles.
    4. The destruction at the second coming.
    5.Judgement.

     Matthew 22:1   And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

     Matthew 22:2   The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

     Matthew 22:3   And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

     Matthew 22:4   Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

     Matthew 22:5   But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

     Matthew 22:6   And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

     Matthew 22:7   But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

     Matthew 22:8   Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

     Matthew 22:9   Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

     Matthew 22:10   So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

     Matthew 22:11   And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

     Matthew 22:12   And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

     Matthew 22:13   Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

     Matthew 22:14   For many are called, but few are chosen.

     wakeup.


    This would suggest that Islam is totally accepted since the parable explains to go get EVEYONE


    Boditharta.

    Everyone that come to the wedding will be accepted.
    Islam  did not come to the wedding,they have their own wedding.They have their own wedding garments on.

    Islam believe in Jesus;and so does the devil.

    wakeup.


    Jesus disagrees with you

    John 14:2
    In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


    Boditharta.

    There is God's mansion.
    The top angels.
    The elders and the very elect.
    And the rest.
    All will not be resurrected in the same brightness.
    Some will be brighter than others.
    No believers in Mohamad will be in any of those mansions.
    No one can come to the Father but by Me.(Jesus).
    The Word of God,which is put in print.
    The spirit of those words we must eat to have life.
    Seek and you shall find.

    The qur'an is not the word of God.
    None can come to God through some other word.
    Jesus is the way,and none else.

    wakeup.

    #362323
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 18 2013,23:33)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2013,11:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 14 2013,21:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 14 2013,16:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 12 2013,13:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 11 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,04:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2013,15:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic


    Boditharta.

    The gospels was preached after christ ascension.
    There were seven churches in asia minor;and Christ has given them all,warnings to straighten up.

    Since then on: The established churches has become corrupt
    and taken over by the Roman Church.
    But the true believers continued preaching.

    The written Word of God is preserved by God,
    up to now. True believers exist today.
    There is no need for the qur'an.
    In the last days many false prophets shall arise.


    As I said you have a bias logic. Your explanation would also make the Orthodox Jews of today completely right for rejecting Christianity.

    You believe in progressive revelation just as I do but you just stop where you are comfortable and that's okay.

    You accept the fact that Jesus was “only” sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel but then somehow you believe that he wasn't ONLY sent to them but was also sent to the gentiles so was Jesus telling the truth or not.

    He also said Matthew 10:5
    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

    but somehow you find it possible for him to simply change his mind but when it comes to the Quran you basically say “God can't do that” How can you possibly know what God decided to do.

    You eat things that God had made forbidden to others why is that possible? Did God decide it was okay for you but not for them?


    Boditharta.

    Study this parable carefully:

    This is about the:

    1.The invatation of the jews.
    2. The rejection by the jews.
    3. The invitation goes to the gentiles.
    4. The destruction at the second coming.
    5.Judgement.

     Matthew 22:1   And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

     Matthew 22:2   The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

     Matthew 22:3   And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

     Matthew 22:4   Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

     Matthew 22:5   But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

     Matthew 22:6   And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

     Matthew 22:7   But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

     Matthew 22:8   Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

     Matthew 22:9   Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

     Matthew 22:10   So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

     Matthew 22:11   And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

     Matthew 22:12   And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

     Matthew 22:13   Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

     Matthew 22:14   For many are called, but few are chosen.

     wakeup.


    This would suggest that Islam is totally accepted since the parable explains to go get EVEYONE


    Boditharta.

    Everyone that come to the wedding will be accepted.
    Islam  did not come to the wedding,they have their own wedding.They have their own wedding garments on.

    Islam believe in Jesus;and so does the devil.

    wakeup.


    Jesus disagrees with you

    John 14:2
    In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


    Boditharta.

    There is God's mansion.
    The top angels.
    The elders and the very elect.
    And the rest.
    All will not be resurrected in the same brightness.
    Some will be brighter than others.
    No believers in Mohamad will be in any of those mansions.
    No one can come to the Father but by Me.(Jesus).
    The Word of God,which is put in print.
    The spirit of those words we must eat to have life.
    Seek and you shall find.

    The qur'an is not the word of God.
    None can come to God through some other word.
    Jesus is the way,and none else.

    wakeup.


    Wow, you have the ability to tell God what is in HIS kingdom, that is amazing. However it is COMPLETELY untrue

    #362324
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 18 2013,23:33)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2013,11:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 14 2013,21:09)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 14 2013,16:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 12 2013,13:56)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 11 2013,05:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,04:23)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 03 2013,15:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 02 2013,08:17)
    Boditharta.

    Israel was lost,because they have gone corrupt
    worshipping other gods.
    This is why God sent his Son.
    They have rejected His Son also.
    So God invited the gentiles to come in.

    wakeup.


    So do you not think the Christians were had become corrupt by the time of Muhammad? By that time the trinity, worship of Mary and Jesus as God and all sorts of statue and saint worship had become normal. So then I say God sent down the Quran but you say that can't be true? You have an unfair logic


    Boditharta.

    The gospels was preached after christ ascension.
    There were seven churches in asia minor;and Christ has given them all,warnings to straighten up.

    Since then on: The established churches has become corrupt
    and taken over by the Roman Church.
    But the true believers continued preaching.

    The written Word of God is preserved by God,
    up to now. True believers exist today.
    There is no need for the qur'an.
    In the last days many false prophets shall arise.


    As I said you have a bias logic. Your explanation would also make the Orthodox Jews of today completely right for rejecting Christianity.

    You believe in progressive revelation just as I do but you just stop where you are comfortable and that's okay.

    You accept the fact that Jesus was “only” sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel but then somehow you believe that he wasn't ONLY sent to them but was also sent to the gentiles so was Jesus telling the truth or not.

    He also said Matthew 10:5
    These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

    but somehow you find it possible for him to simply change his mind but when it comes to the Quran you basically say “God can't do that” How can you possibly know what God decided to do.

    You eat things that God had made forbidden to others why is that possible? Did God decide it was okay for you but not for them?


    Boditharta.

    Study this parable carefully:

    This is about the:

    1.The invatation of the jews.
    2. The rejection by the jews.
    3. The invitation goes to the gentiles.
    4. The destruction at the second coming.
    5.Judgement.

     Matthew 22:1   And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

     Matthew 22:2   The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

     Matthew 22:3   And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

     Matthew 22:4   Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

     Matthew 22:5   But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

     Matthew 22:6   And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

     Matthew 22:7   But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

     Matthew 22:8   Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

     Matthew 22:9   Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

     Matthew 22:10   So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

     Matthew 22:11   And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

     Matthew 22:12   And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

     Matthew 22:13   Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

     Matthew 22:14   For many are called, but few are chosen.

     wakeup.


    This would suggest that Islam is totally accepted since the parable explains to go get EVEYONE


    Boditharta.

    Everyone that come to the wedding will be accepted.
    Islam  did not come to the wedding,they have their own wedding.They have their own wedding garments on.

    Islam believe in Jesus;and so does the devil.

    wakeup.


    Jesus disagrees with you

    John 14:2
    In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


    Boditharta.

    There is God's mansion.
    The top angels.
    The elders and the very elect.
    And the rest.
    All will not be resurrected in the same brightness.
    Some will be brighter than others.
    No believers in Mohamad will be in any of those mansions.
    No one can come to the Father but by Me.(Jesus).
    The Word of God,which is put in print.
    The spirit of those words we must eat to have life.
    Seek and you shall find.

    The qur'an is not the word of God.
    None can come to God through some other word.
    Jesus is the way,and none else.

    wakeup.


    By the way the GENTILES were always invited even before there were Jews. Abraham was not a Jew, Isaac was not a Jew, Noah was not a Jew and neither was JACOB(ISRAEL)…etc

    So can you see you already have it wrong?

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