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  • #332874
    terraricca
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    david

    Posted: Feb. 17 2010,16:50

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    And EVERYWHERE where Jesus is called Lord God they added Jehovah, Where He is called Lord they add Jehovah.

    In most Bibles, God's name has been REMOVED and replaced with “Lord” or “God” about …… 7000 times!

    Check the Hebrew!
    Compare it to the English!

    Your Bible might make note of this by capitalizing GOD and LORD where they make this superstitious substitution.
    We KNOW for a fact that God's name was in the Hebrew about 7000 times, and most Bibles remove it about 7000 times. But in the “new testament” where they surely also removed it, there is no concrete proof of this because we only have copies of copies. (There is other proof, such as quotes, which surely where not changed by the original Bible writers.)

    So, we RESTORE God's name a couple HUNDRED TIMES.
    And every other Bible REMOVES God's name 7000 TIMES.

    Which Bible conveys the more accurate thought?

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    There faith IS NOT in Jesus

    More knowledgeable people know that almost everything JW's do, is because of Jesus. They go preaching because of Jesus words for example. (Mat 28:19,20)

    I AGREE IN MOST OF WHAT YOU SAYING BUT THERE PREDICTION ARE THOSE FOR AND FROM JESUS AS WELL??????

    #332875
    Anonymous
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    God wants to be known as LORD. That is clear in scripture. He tells us that! But the N.W.T. adds Jehovah, were it is speaking of Jesus! I looked up and C.t. Russell(i think that was his name) went to church when He was young and kept changing because they were all preaching and beleiving in hell and it scared Him so He got a group of men together and started teaching on His own, the way He wanted the scripts to sound. There is no college education in the ones who wrote it. (I think it said 3 men and one might of went to college 1 year) My friend who had studied with them said they told her She coudnt read the King James by its self. She has to use the one they wrote, and she cant just go to a bible book store and get a bible. I told her, churches just dont right their own bible, you can go to a bible book store and buy one! dont understand??

    katjo

    #332876
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Can you say Jesus is Lord? Is your faith in Him?

    katjo

    #332877
    terraricca
    Participant

    katjo

    it is very simple, any organization wants to control there members to follow in one single direction,not like on this site what at some times is like kos.

    so this develops in bringing up there own book ,bible ect

    this is good providing you are doing the true teachings and practising all thing accordingly,
    if not the organization starts to create confusion and indoctrination and self credit.

    #332878
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ Feb. 18 2010,01:15)
    God wants to be known as LORD. That is clear in scripture. He tells us that! But the N.W.T. adds Jehovah, were it is speaking of Jesus! I looked up and C.t. Russell(i think that was his name) went to church when He was young and kept changing because they were all preaching and beleiving in hell and it scared Him so He got a group of men together and started teaching on His own, the way He wanted the scripts to sound. There is no college education in the ones who wrote it. (I think it said 3 men and one might of went to college 1 year) My friend who had studied with them said they told her She coudnt read the King James by its self. She has to use the one they wrote, and she cant just go to a bible book store and get a bible. I told her, churches just dont right their own bible, you can go to a bible book store and buy one! dont understand??

    katjo


    Hi Katjo,

    For a teacher with a web site, your knowledge of the usage of the word “Lord” is VERY limited!

    Click Here >> Right Here << and learn!
              Read my last “Two” Posts!

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332879
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hello, Ive held onto this for a while.. so I will post it again…The Hebrew words Elohim and Adonai are applied to something other than the true and living God. There is, however, one name that is unique to the God of the Bible. This name is Yahweh—an alternative transliteration is Jehovah. Yahweh refers to “the self-existent, eternal God” the name God revealed to Moses:
    And God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM. And He said, ‘Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you' (Exodus 3:14).
    Moses later wrote.
    The Lord is a warrior; the Lord is his name (Exodus 15:3).
    The prophet Isaiah declared.
    I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols (Isaiah 42:8).
    Jeremiah wrote.
    Therefore I will teach them – this time I will teach them my power and might. Then they will know that my name is the LORD (Jeremiah 16:21).
    Jeremiah also wrote.
    This is what the LORD says, he who made the earth, the LORD who formed it and established it -the LORD is his name (Jeremiah 33:2).
    The prophet Amos wrote.
    He who made the Pleiades and Orion, who turns blackness into dawn and darkens day into night, who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out over the face of the land – the LORD is his name (Amos 5:8).
    In Amos it also says.
    The One who builds his upper chambers in the heavens and has founded his vaulted dome over the earth, he who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the face of the earth, the Lord is his name (Amos 9:6).
    Therefore the name Yahweh or Jehovah (Lord) is the name that God uses of Himself.
    All Capital Letters In English Translations
    In English translations of the Old Testament, whenever we find the word Lord spelled LORD with all capital letters, it is the translation of the name Yahweh.
    The Vowel Points Were Taken From Adon
    The name Jehovah or Yahweh is taken from the consonants of the divine name and the vowels for the Hebrew word for master “Adon.” The four letters that spell the divine name (YHWH or JHVH) are called the Tetragrammaton.
    Yahweh Is The Sacred Name
    The name Yahweh is sacred. The Jews considered as unpronounceable and incommunicable.
    Yahweh Is The Covenant Keeping Name
    Yahweh is the covenant-keeping name of God. When the creative aspect of God is recorded then the name Elohim is used (Genesis 1). However when there is a relationship involved with humanity the name Yahweh is used (Genesis 2). These differences are consistent throughout the entire Old Testament.
    Yahweh Is Used With Other Names For God
    Yahweh is used in combination with other names for God.
    Yahweh-Elohim
    This is translated “the Lord God.” This title is used of God relationship to humanity as the Creator, and Redeemer.
    This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created. When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens (Genesis 2:4).
    Later, in the same chapter, we read.
    So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place (Genesis 2:21).
    When Adam and Eve sinned, Yahweh-Elohim made them garments of skin.
    The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them (Genesis 3:21).
    This name is also used of God's relationship to Israel.
    The Lord, the God of heaven, who took me from my father's house and from the land of my birth, and who spoke to me and who swore to me, saying, ‘To your descendants I will give this land,' He will send His angel before you, and you will take a wife for my son from there (Genesis 24:7).
    Moses also wrote.
    God, furthermore, said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, `The Lord, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations” (Exodus 3:15).
    Adonai Yahweh
    The combination of Adonai Yahweh is used. Moses said.
    O Lord God, you have begun to show your servant your greatness and your strong hand; for what god is there in heaven or on earth who can do such works and mighty acts as yours? (Deuteronomy 3:24).
    Joshua wrote.
    Joshua said, “Alas, O Lord God, why did you ever bring this people over the Jordan, only to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us? If only we had been willing to dwell beyond the Jordan” (Joshua 7:7).
    Yahweh Sabaoth – The Lord Of Hosts
    He is also known as the Lord of Hosts.
    Now this man would go up from his city yearly to worship and to sacrifice to the Lord of hosts in Shiloh (1 Samuel 1:3).
    This combination occurs at times with reference to warfare. It occurs mostly when the nation Israel is in some type of crisis. For example we read.
    The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our stronghold (Psalm 46:7).
    It also speaks of God' power and glory.
    Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory (Psalm 24:10).
    The primary idea behind, “hosts” is the angels but the name also refers to the divine power that is available to meet the need of the Lord's people.
    The Word Yahweh Implies A Relationship
    He is Yahweh only to those who have a relationship with Him. The name Yahweh is used throughout the Old Testament with compound words that describe something of His character.
    He Is The Lord Who Provides
    Yahweh is the providing God.
    And Abraham called the name of the place, The-Lord-Will-Provide (Genesis 22:14).
    He Is The Lord Who Heals
    He is the Lord who heals.
    He said, “If you listen carefully to the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the LORD, who heals you (Exodus 15:26)
    He Is Our Banner
    He is called the Lord our banner.
    And Moses built an altar and called it, The LORD is my banner (Exodus 17:15)
    Yahweh Is Our Peace
    The Lord is also our peace.
    Then Gideon built an altar there to the LORD, and called it, The LORD is peace. To this day it still stands at Ophrah, which belongs to the Abiezrites (Judges 6:24).
    He Is A Shepherd
    The Lord is the Shepherd to believers.
    The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want (Psalm 23:1).
    Yahweh Is The Lord Our Righteousness
    He is also the Lord our righteousness.
    Now this is his name by which he will be called: THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS (Jeremiah 23:6).
    He Is The Lord Who Is There
    When His kingdom comes to this earth, He is the Lord who is there.
    The circumference of the city shall be eighteen thousand cubits. And the name of the city from that time on shall be, The LORD is There (Ezekiel 48:35).
    Each of these names of the Lord shows how He meets the needs of humanity.
    The Divine Qualities Are Stressed With His Name
    There are also a number of the divine qualities or attributes of the Lord that is stressed. These include the following.
    The Lord Is Mighty
    The Lord is mighty.
    The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man; he shall stir up his zeal like a man of war. He shall cry out, yes, shout aloud; he shall prevail against his enemies (Isaiah 42:13).
    The Lord Is Our Maker
    He is the Lord our Maker.
    Oh come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the Lord our Maker (Psalm 95:6)
    The Lord Most High
    He is the Lord Most High.
    I will praise the Lord according to His righteousness, and will sing praise to the name of the Lord Most High (Psalm 7:17)
    The Lord Is The Judge
    Scripture says that the Lord is the Judge.
    Therefore I have not sinned against you, but you wronged me by fighting against me. May the Lord, the Judge, render judgment this day between the children of Israel and the people of Ammon (Judges 11:27).
    Summary
    In the Old Testament the divine name is the Lord. The Hebrew word is pronounced Yahweh or Jehovah. In the English Bible it is spelled with all capital letters LORD. The name is also used in co
    mpound form with other divine names. This includes Yahweh-Elohim, Yahweh-Adonai, and Yahweh Sabaoth. The compound forms of the divine name emphasize the various ways in which the Lord relates to humanity. The name Yahweh is the covenant name between God and His people. It is not used of false gods.

    katjo

    #332880

    Are you JW's for the Jerusalem Bible or New Jerusalem Bible? They use Yahweh for the name of God.

    #332881
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ Feb. 18 2010,14:42)
    The four letters that spell the divine name (YHWH or JHVH) are called the Tetragrammaton.

    katjo


    Hi Katjo,

    Once again your knowledge is limited. Those ARE BOTH WRONG!

    God's Name [יהוה] transliterates into English as YHVH; transliterates means sounds(Phonics).

    GOD’s most sacred Holy Name [יהוה] was given to us directly from the Hebrew language.
    Correctly translating Hebrew into other languages can be difficult however.
    Some basic linguistical rules need to be considered when translating Hebrew texts.
    These include a lack of spacing between words, as a general rule has no written vowels
    and the basic direction in which Hebrew is written (opposite: from right to left).
    Hebrew word spacing is a modern advent that distinguishes one word from the next,
    aiding both translators and multi-linguists alike. Unwritten “implied” vowel sounds
    are a concern because, correct pronunciations of Hebrew words are at risk.
    GOD’s Name (יהוה) transliterates directly into English as YHVH because the Hebrew alphabet
    lacks vowels. Hebrew has No [W] sound, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.

    [י ה ו ה] GOD’s Name   [י] Yod [ה] Ha [ו] Vav [ה] Hey  …is pronounced  YÄ-hä-vā  &  [יה] YÄ

    יהוה is pronounced with its exact preciseness as “YÄ-hä-vā”; where ä sounds like that of the word “ah”
    and the other ā sounds like that of the vowel in the word “hay”. So when you see the tetragrammation YHVH,
    the proper pronunciation is YÄ-hä-vā. (Psalm 45:17) This point is made because the correct pronunciation
    was thought to be lost, which led only to translators’ interpretations.

    Theomatics offers proof of this FACT as a second witness(Matt.18:16)…
    The “Divine=63” “Deity=63” of “The Bible=63” is “YHVH=63”!

                         
                                “YHVH is GOD”=117
    PSALM 117is[The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332882
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ Feb. 18 2010,14:42)
    Hello, Ive held onto this for a while.. so I will post it again
    katjo


    Hi Katjo,

    You Posting 'flawed' material over and over don't make it somehow turn into “Truth”?
    That is the pattern that BD uses in the skeptics section, he thinks it will work as well?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332883
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 03 2010,18:42)

    Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 30 2009,04:41)

    Gene,
    It's not just “I AM.” It's “BEFORE Abraham was I AM.”

    Get it now?

    Btw, the trinitarian doctrine does not need to be “pushed.” Trinitarian truth reigns.

    thinker


    Hi thinker

    The standardized translation of ‘I am that I am’ can be proven to be wrong;
    yet the N.W.T. (JW's) version of the Bible has this phrase (אהיה אשר אהיה) translated correctly.

    Exodus 3:14 in the N.W.T.: …“I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE”…

    The AKJV linguists successfully translated the phrase אהיה into “I WILL” hundreds of times in the “Old Testament”.
    The AKJV translators also added words (which they italicized) to aid in translational differences;
    they did this practice throughout the bible so as to NOT corrupt it!

    The AKJV linguists should have translated אהיה אשר אהיה into “I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE” (“Will be”=63 and “YHVH”=63);
    this can be proven! The phrase ‘i am’ cannot be translated back into Hebrew; for it ‘i am’ is the product of man.
    ‘i am’ has now turned into the false god of religion! Let’s see what the N.W.T. says in Ezek. 28:2.

    N.W.T. Ezek. 28:2: …“For the reason that your heart has become haughty, (Psalm 18:25-27)
    AND YOU KEEP SAYING, ‘i am' a god. In the seat of god” (emphasis mine)…

    This sounds remarkably eerily like what it says in 2Thess.2:4.

    N.W.T. 2Thess.2:4 “He (‘i am’) is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone
    who is called God=63(YHVH=63) or an object of reverence,
    so that he (i am) sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god.”

    The AKJV bible was completed and in the public's hands in 1611.
    The AKJV bible is going to bring about satan's final defeat!

    AKJV John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world (i am) is judged.
    The prince of this world is 'i am'(satan; the son of perdition).

    AKJV 2Thess.2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
    except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    AKJV 2Thess.2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God=63(YHVH=63),
    or that is worshipped; so that he as (i am)God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he(satan) is God.

    AKJV 2Thess.2:8 And then shall that Wicked (i am) be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth (Rev.19:15),
    and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan (Mark 13:6)
    with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;
    because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    What lie did they believe?

    AKJV Romans1:23-25 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man,
    and to birds(the rapture), and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
    through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
    and worshipped and served the creature(Jesus) more than the Creator(YHVH), who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    'The devil's trick'; 'i am'=23! (AKJV Psalm 102:11-13)

    AKJV Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my(Christ's) name,
    saying, I am; and shall deceive many. (Romans 1:25 / John 6:15)

    God’s Name יהוה is written exactly 6823 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. See how the
    Gematria value of Ιησους Χριστоς=2368 Ē-Ā-Soos Chrĭstŏs (Jesus Christ in Greek)
    bears a striking resemblance to the number of times God’s Name is used in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.

    the wall Jesus died to abolish (Eph.2:14), is illustrate as this dichotomy: [6823] and [2368].

               “Trinitarian”?            and          “non-Trinitarian”!
                6823             and            2368

                “Trinitarian”                           “non-Trinitarian”      
     New god=68 'i am'=23?            'i am'=23 NOT JAH=68!
             (AKJV Gal.2:20)                      (AKJV Psalm 68:4-5)

    AKJV Deut.3217 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not,
    to (i am) new gods that came newly up (Rev.13:1), whom your fathers feared not.

    AKJV Rev.13:11 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea,
    having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads (i am) the name  of blasphemy.

    Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he (i am) corrupt by flatteries:
    but the people that do know their God (YHVH) shall be strong, and do exploits .  

    Ed J (AKJV Hebrews 11:34 / Daniel 11:18)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hey Ed J,

    To comment on your explanation, since we are moving this topic here instead of bods.

    I understand what your saying.

    I already knew about the I will be, that i shall be.
    Thats cool with me, its understandable,

    But here is my problem.
    its just like what Bod said. he said that there are christians, becuase of the arabic language refer to God as allah.
    in the intentions of their heart are they wrong? are they not christians?

    in other words. when in english, not hebrew, a common person uses the phrase or term “i am” within a sentense its of the devil? or is it satanic?

    for example. a person says “i am speaking” are YOU saying that this is a sin?

    much love,

    #332884
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 11 2010,21:51)
    Hey Ed J,

    To comment on your explanation, since we are moving this topic here instead of bods.

    I understand what your saying.

    I already knew about the I will be, that i shall be.
    Thats cool with me, its understandable,

    But here is my problem.
    its just like what Bod said. he said that there are christians, becuase of the arabic language refer to God as allah.
    in the intentions of their heart are they wrong?  are they not christians?

    in other words.  when in english, not hebrew, a common person uses the phrase  or term “i am” within a sentense its of the devil? or is it satanic?

    for example. a person says “i am speaking” are YOU saying that this is a sin?

    much love,


    Hi SF,

    It's not how the 'title'=66 “God” translates into Arabic as 'allah'=66(The Theomatic value in Arabic).
    'The problem'=114 is the association of that title with the 'book of fraud'=114.
    The 'quran'=71(or 'babylon'=71) has 114 suras(Chapters);
    which started right where Babylon started.

                'i am' is the devil's title!

    Pay close attention how that phrase is used by people.
    Meaning in what context. as in what are they saying?
    Are they demanding, belittling, arrogant or accusing?

    Lucifer means: ‘to boast or make a showing and selfish rage or praise’.
    The name Lucifer (who is satan) also means ‘giver of light and bright morning star’.

    2Thess. 2:4 says: {Lucifer} opposes and exalts himself above all that is “called God=63” (YHVH=63), or that
    is worshipped; so that he {Lucifer} as ‘I AM god’ sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.  

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332885
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Seems to be self serving understandings you offer.

    #332886
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 12 2010,01:15)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 11 2010,21:51)
    Hey Ed J,

    To comment on your explanation, since we are moving this topic here instead of bods.

    I understand what your saying.

    I already knew about the I will be, that i shall be.
    Thats cool with me, its understandable,

    But here is my problem.
    its just like what Bod said. he said that there are christians, becuase of the arabic language refer to God as allah.
    in the intentions of their heart are they wrong?  are they not christians?

    in other words.  when in english, not hebrew, a common person uses the phrase  or term “i am” within a sentense its of the devil? or is it satanic?

    for example. a person says “i am speaking” are YOU saying that this is a sin?

    much love,


    Hi SF,

    It's not how the 'title'=66 “God” translates into Arabic as 'allah'=66(The Theomatic value in Arabic).
    'The problem'=114 is the association of that title with the 'book of fraud'=114.
    The 'quran'=71(or 'babylon'=71) has 114 suras(Chapters);
    which started right where Babylon started.

                'i am' is the devil's title!

    Pay close attention how that phrase is used by people.
    Meaning in what context. as in what are they saying?
    Are they demanding, belittling, arrogant or accusing?

    Lucifer means: ‘to boast or make a showing and selfish rage or praise’.
    The name Lucifer (who is satan) also means ‘giver of light and bright morning star’.

    2Thess. 2:4 says: {Lucifer} opposes and exalts himself above all that is “called God=63” (YHVH=63), or that
    is worshipped; so that he {Lucifer} as ‘I AM god’ sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.  

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I disagree.

    I am a person, I am a human with arms.
    there is nothing wrong what i said.

    Can you show me in scripture where it says specifically we cant say “I am”
    Show me in the bible where it says its a sin.

    #332887
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 12 2010,08:48)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 12 2010,01:15)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 11 2010,21:51)
    Hey Ed J,

    To comment on your explanation, since we are moving this topic here instead of bods.

    I understand what your saying.

    I already knew about the I will be, that i shall be.
    Thats cool with me, its understandable,

    But here is my problem.
    its just like what Bod said. he said that there are christians, becuase of the arabic language refer to God as allah.
    in the intentions of their heart are they wrong?  are they not christians?

    in other words.  when in english, not hebrew, a common person uses the phrase  or term “i am” within a sentense its of the devil? or is it satanic?

    for example. a person says “i am speaking” are YOU saying that this is a sin?

    much love,


    Hi SF,

    It's not how the 'title'=66 “God” translates into Arabic as 'allah'=66(The Theomatic value in Arabic).
    'The problem'=114 is the association of that title with the 'book of fraud'=114.
    The 'quran'=71(or 'babylon'=71) has 114 suras(Chapters);
    which started right where Babylon started.

                'i am' is the devil's title!

    Pay close attention how that phrase is used by people.
    Meaning in what context. as in what are they saying?
    Are they demanding, belittling, arrogant or accusing?

    Lucifer means: ‘to boast or make a showing and selfish rage or praise’.
    The name Lucifer (who is satan) also means ‘giver of light and bright morning star’.

    2Thess. 2:4 says: {Lucifer} opposes and exalts himself above all that is “called God=63” (YHVH=63), or that
    is worshipped; so that he {Lucifer} as ‘I AM god’ sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.  

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I disagree.

    I am a person, I am a human with arms.
    there is nothing wrong what i said.

    Can you show me in scripture where it says specifically we cant say “I am”  
    Show me in the bible where it says its a sin.


    Hi SF,

    Rev.13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea
    (Rev.17:15), having seven heads and ten horns (compare with Rev.12:3 & Rev.17:3),
    and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads ('i am') the name of blasphemy.

    Nahum 1:14 And the LORD hath given a commandment concerning thee,
    that no more of thy (i am) name be sown: out of the house of thy gods will I cut off the
    graven image (Isaiah 45:20) and the molten image: I will make thy grave; for thou (i am) art vile.

    Gal.2:20 'i am' crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live …
    1Tm.1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom 'i am' chief.

    Deut.32:39-41 See now that I, even I(YHVH), he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive;
    I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift up my hand to heaven,
    and say, I live for ever. If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment;
    I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.

    I don't argue with people, if you won't accept the evidence I offer then we'll just have to wait.
    I planted the seed, that's all I can do; it's God's job to make it grow!

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #332888
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 05 2010,13:32)
    Gene,

    Hear the word of God:

    Revelation 19:6:

    For the Lord God omnipotent reigns.”

    Jude 4:

    “…our only Master and Lord Jesus Christ.”

    The Lord God reigns. Jesus Christ is our “only master and Lord.” Do the math dude!

    thinker


    It's not a matter of math, because the OT LORD (YHWH) is not the same word as the NT Lord (kurios).

    Translators put the word LORD in the place of YJWH. This is why you see in the OT LORD and Lord. They are different words.

    #332813
    Admin
    Keymaster

    This is about a translation of the bible and thought it more fitting to be in this forum instead of Truth and Tradition.

    #332889
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    I'm pulling up this thread to show you I have defended the translators of the N.W.T.
    How exactly does a translator betray themself? I'd like to know? ???

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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