My thoughts on the godhead

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  • #197980
    RokkaMan
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    Wow maybe the reason I decided to leave the boards was solely based on nick. Instead of using this thread and many others to address and assess a topic/issue…you come in and plant seeds of confusion and start arguing and debating about things unrelated to the topic….

    This steers people away from truth and the purpose of coming to these forums…

    you know who you are starting to remind me of Nick???

    The Devil.

    #198002
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……….Brother, some times you seem to use words to positions yourself over people, rather then reason with then to express your beliefs and thoughts on subjects, anyone can say you must be born again, or do you know the lord Jesus Christ and so on, what you fail to understand i believe is that we (ALL) already Know that every bit as much as you do brother. If you disagree with some one be specific as to why you do, and address their post specifically as to why you disagree, would be a much better help to us and not turn them of. I am not saying everything you say is like that though but there does seem to be a lot of that in your posts, I do agree with you on many things, but it would help if you would show a little more patience and love for us all, seeing you are in the position of a monitor. WE are all trying to learn and grow here. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

    #198035
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Everybody,

    Col.2:9 For in him (Christ=77) dwelleth all the fulness of “the Godhead”=77 bodily.

    Rom.1:20: For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen,
    being understood by the things that are made, even (YHVH=63) his eternal
    power “and Godhead”=63; so that they are without excuse:

    Acts 17:29: Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God,
    we ought not to think that the “Godhead is like”=109 unto
    gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

    John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne “witness”=109
    of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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    #198108
    Oxy
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2010,22:52)
    Hi SF,
     Everyman claims commonsense as being his own thoughts.
    Naah dig deeper and found your beliefs on rock


    Jesus is the Rock and I hear His voice. :)

    1Co 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank of the spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.

    Joh 10:16 And I have other sheep who are not of this fold. I must also lead those, and they shall hear My voice, and there shall be one flock, one Shepherd.

    #198125
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Oxy,
    You hear the Spirit of Christ?
    Then why do you teach God is three?

    #198134
    JustAskin
    Participant

    RM,

    Did anyone ever tell you not to write things when you are tired?

    God, YHVH, is indeed the Supreme one. So how do you then state that because Jesus is greater thsn us, that that then makes him our God, our Supreme one.

    He is not supremem because he is greater while we still have, and always will have THE One who IS that Supreme one, God Almighty, YHVH.

    You forced the issue.

    What is God, yes you worked out that 'God' is a Title and that title can, in general, can be applied to any that is outstanding in their field. But you declined to declare that only ONE PERSON is ever declared to be 'The God', written 'God', never, 'a God', but 'The God' and then, simply 'God'.

    When there is only one of a kind, that one can be given a name or no name or a unique title or and emphatic title because everyone will know to whom it refers, no equivocating.

    'God' is that emphatic title. It always means 'God Almighty'. Anything added to it must be read contextually….

    'My God', 'Our God', 'Your God', 'O God', does not imply 'God Almighty', YHVH. Only that title with the definite article: 'The' God, this along with superlatives, 'The Mighty God', (Note, not just 'Mighty God' which is implicit), Lord God, Almighty God, God of Hosts and God Almighty.

    #198245
    RokkaMan
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 19 2010,11:01)
    RM,

    Did anyone ever tell you not to write things when you are tired?

    God, YHVH, is indeed the Supreme one. So how do you then state that because Jesus is greater thsn us, that that then makes him our God, our Supreme one.

    He is not supremem because he is greater while we still have, and always will have THE One who IS that Supreme one, God Almighty, YHVH.

    You forced the issue.

    What is God, yes you worked out that 'God' is a Title and that title can, in general, can be applied to any that is outstanding in their field. But you declined to declare that only ONE PERSON is ever declared to be 'The God', written 'God', never, 'a God', but 'The God' and then, simply 'God'.

    When there is only one of a kind, that one can be given a name or no name or a unique title or and emphatic title because everyone will know to whom it refers, no equivocating.

    'God' is that emphatic title. It always means 'God Almighty'. Anything added to it must be read contextually….

    'My God', 'Our God', 'Your God', 'O God', does not imply 'God Almighty', YHVH. Only that title with the definite article: 'The' God, this along with superlatives, 'The Mighty God', (Note, not just 'Mighty God' which is implicit), Lord God, Almighty God, God of Hosts and God Almighty.


    Then why does the bible say God created the world 'ALONE'

    Then in another verse attributes creation to The Son?

    Why was The Word of God manifested unto Enoch, and in the next verse called God/Lord in which he performed miracles as a witness to Enoch.

    If Jesus is The Word of God, and the bible shows us The Word of God manifested is God, how do you reconcile these kind of issues without believing Jesus so too is part of The Godhead.

    And in the bible it says,

    No greater love is found, except for that when someone lays his life down for a friend

    If God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son to die for our sins…

    To send someone else besides himself to die for us, doesn't express The Bible's statement that there is no greater love than to lay your life down for a friend.

    Are you accusing God of not having complete love for us?

    If Jesus is God in flesh, then it works…if he's not, it doesn't.

    #198247
    Is 1:18
    Participant

    Quote (RokkaMan @ June 19 2010,15:52)
    If Jesus is God in flesh, then it works…if he's not, it doesn't.


    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    :)

    #198301
    Oxy
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2010,12:35)
    Hi Oxy,
    You hear the Spirit of Christ?
    Then why do you teach God is three?


    Because that's what God showed me and confirmed in the Scriptures, but as usual Nick you would rather attempt to prove people wrong rather than look to see if there may be some truth in what people say.

    Why don't you weigh up the possibilities? There is no harm in asking God for His opinion. I always do and He seems to enjoy teaching.

    #198313
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,18:50)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2010,12:35)
    Hi Oxy,
    You hear the Spirit of Christ?
    Then why do you teach God is three?


    Because that's what God showed me and confirmed in the Scriptures, but as usual Nick you would rather attempt to prove people wrong rather than look to see if there may be some truth in what people say.

    Why don't you weigh up the possibilities?  There is no harm in asking God for His opinion.  I always do and He seems to enjoy teaching.


    Hi Oxy,

    Since you talk to God,
    ask him in my behalf what he thinks of me; OK?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #198316
    Oxy
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2010,21:08)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,18:50)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2010,12:35)
    Hi Oxy,
    You hear the Spirit of Christ?
    Then why do you teach God is three?


    Because that's what God showed me and confirmed in the Scriptures, but as usual Nick you would rather attempt to prove people wrong rather than look to see if there may be some truth in what people say.

    Why don't you weigh up the possibilities?  There is no harm in asking God for His opinion.  I always do and He seems to enjoy teaching.


    Hi Oxy,

    Since you talk to God,
    ask him in my behalf what he thinks of me; OK?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Haha, you remind me of the Pharisees who asked for a miracle. You know what Jesus thought of them!

    #198319
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,19:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2010,21:08)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,18:50)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2010,12:35)
    Hi Oxy,
    You hear the Spirit of Christ?
    Then why do you teach God is three?


    Because that's what God showed me and confirmed in the Scriptures, but as usual Nick you would rather attempt to prove people wrong rather than look to see if there may be some truth in what people say.

    Why don't you weigh up the possibilities?  There is no harm in asking God for His opinion.  I always do and He seems to enjoy teaching.


    Hi Oxy,

    Since you talk to God,
    ask him in my behalf what he thinks of me; OK?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Haha, you remind me of the Pharisees who asked for a miracle.  You know what Jesus thought of them!


    Hi Oxy,

    You say you talk to God,
    why can't you ask him for me then? (Isaiah 41:28-29)

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #198325
    Oxy
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2010,21:15)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,19:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2010,21:08)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,18:50)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2010,12:35)
    Hi Oxy,
    You hear the Spirit of Christ?
    Then why do you teach God is three?


    Because that's what God showed me and confirmed in the Scriptures, but as usual Nick you would rather attempt to prove people wrong rather than look to see if there may be some truth in what people say.

    Why don't you weigh up the possibilities?  There is no harm in asking God for His opinion.  I always do and He seems to enjoy teaching.


    Hi Oxy,

    Since you talk to God,
    ask him in my behalf what he thinks of me; OK?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Haha, you remind me of the Pharisees who asked for a miracle.  You know what Jesus thought of them!


    Hi Oxy,

    You say you talk to God,
    why can't you ask him for me then? (Isaiah 41:28-29)

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, are you telling me that He doesn't talk to you? I would be seriously worried if He staopped talking to me.

    #198326
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,19:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2010,21:15)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,19:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2010,21:08)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,18:50)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2010,12:35)
    Hi Oxy,
    You hear the Spirit of Christ?
    Then why do you teach God is three?


    Because that's what God showed me and confirmed in the Scriptures, but as usual Nick you would rather attempt to prove people wrong rather than look to see if there may be some truth in what people say.

    Why don't you weigh up the possibilities?  There is no harm in asking God for His opinion.  I always do and He seems to enjoy teaching.


    Hi Oxy,

    Since you talk to God,
    ask him in my behalf what he thinks of me; OK?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Haha, you remind me of the Pharisees who asked for a miracle.  You know what Jesus thought of them!


    Hi Oxy,

    You say you talk to God,
    why can't you ask him for me then? (Isaiah 41:28-29)

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, are you telling me that He doesn't talk to you?  I would be seriously worried if He staopped talking to me.


    Hi Oxy,

    That's not an answer, but merely a diversionary response.
    Could you ask him as I asked you to?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #198328
    Oxy
    Participant

    I could, but am reluctant to do so quite frankly. What's your point Ed, and what did you mean by the Scriptures you referred to?

    #198329
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,19:26)
    I could, but am reluctant to do so quite frankly.  What's your point Ed, and what did you mean by the Scriptures you referred to?


    Hi Oxy,

    You mean these…
    Isaiah 41:28-29 For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them,
    and there was no counseller, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.
    Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.

    Those verses indicate that you will NOT return with an answer;
    so ask him for me and we will all see what the answer is; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #198331
    Oxy
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2010,21:32)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,19:26)
    I could, but am reluctant to do so quite frankly.  What's your point Ed, and what did you mean by the Scriptures you referred to?


    Hi Oxy,

    You mean these…
    Isaiah 41:28-29 For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them,
    and there was no counseller, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.
    Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.

    Those verses indicate that you will NOT return with an answer;
    so ask him for me and we will all see what the answer is; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I will not play your silly game Ed, I'm surprised at you for asking. If you care to check out my website and look on my Experiences page, you will see plenty of instances where God has specifically spoken to me and the end result of those occasions.

    #198335
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,19:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2010,21:32)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,19:26)
    I could, but am reluctant to do so quite frankly.  What's your point Ed, and what did you mean by the Scriptures you referred to?


    Hi Oxy,

    You mean these…
    Isaiah 41:28-29 For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them,
    and there was no counseller, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.
    Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.

    Those verses indicate that you will NOT return with an answer;
    so ask him for me and we will all see what the answer is; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I will not play your silly game Ed, I'm surprised at you for asking.  If you care to check out my website and look on my Experiences page, you will see plenty of instances where God has specifically spoken to me and the end result of those occasions.


    Hi Oxy,

    Why can't you do it? (Jer.23:37)
    Are you lying when you say the LORD speaks to you?

    Jer.23:37 Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath
    the LORD answered thee?  and, What hath the LORD spoken?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #198338
    Oxy
    Participant

    I am not a liar Ed and I would appreciate an apology.

    In the Old Testament they were dependant on the prophets to hear from God, but God has given to all that ask His Holy Spirit that we might be taught of Him directly.

    #198341
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 19 2010,19:44)
    I am not a liar Ed and I would appreciate an apology.

    In the Old Testament they were dependant on the prophets to hear from God, but God has given to all that ask His Holy Spirit that we might be taught of Him directly.


    Hi Oxy,

    Ask him for me then; OK?
    I will apologize after you return with an answer from him; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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