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- December 12, 2009 at 11:46 pm#164038terrariccaParticipant
hi edJ
ok i have it ,is printed i will read it then comment it.December 13, 2009 at 1:04 am#164044GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 13 2009,06:44) Quote (Gene @ Nov. 24 2009,15:20) Ed J………Do you see all the contradiction in what you posted, On the one hand you say His the devil and on the other He is a man, Now i do agree there is no such thing as a Satan or Devil (being) and that Man is the devils and satans or (ADVERSARY) of GOD, not some Spook going around jumping in and out of People. So The King of Babylon in that perspective was in deed a DEVIL. But above all things He was a MAN, not some elusive Creature going around in disguise controlling People. Carnal Man is the ADVERSARY (Satan) . Remember Jesus told Peter He was a SATAN., and he chose His disciples and one was a DEVIL. Isaiah plainly said He was talking to the KING OF BABYLON. This King of Babylon ruled with great authority and was a cruel ruler and crushed any opposition He ruled the entire world as Daniel testified of HIM. ( The word Lucifier) means rising Star we still us that term today and the King of Babylon was that rising star untill his (PRIDE) got the best of him and GOD brought Him down to the Grave. AS God said he would through Isaiah. This whole concept of Devils and Demons is all part of the Mystery religion teaching , as it says “teaching for doctrines the Doctrines of or(about) Devils and Demons”. IMO peace and love……………..gene
Hi Gene,You refer to Judas Iscariot as 'indeed a devil'.
Would it not be correct to say that satan jumped in and out of peter?
Would it also not be correct to say also that satan jumped out of Judas after he repented, when he threw the thirty pieces of silver?The contradiction is: you say 'not some Spook going around jumping in and out of People',
then next mention Jesus calling peter satan? We both know that Peter was not satan!Can you not see the fractal truth of how the Bible points to the affect(people) to explain the cause(Lucifer / Satan).
I have shown this principal over and over, yet this point always seems to go unnoticed.Yet the more posts I make concerning this consistent biblical principal the clearer “The Truth” becomes.
I know that you do understand my point; but others here like Katjo, do not understand this concept yet. So I must continue to illustrate these truths.God bless you Gene,
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J…..The word SATAN (MEANS) ADVERSARY AND THAT IS ALL IT MEANS, Peer was acting as an ADVERSARY to Jesus, so Jesus rightly called him Satan. Anyone can be a SATAN (ADVERSARY) of GOD. And GOD can be a SATAN or (ADVERSARY) also if he choses to. You have bought into the false teachings about SATAN presented by false religions.peace and love ………………gene
December 13, 2009 at 1:45 am#164045Ed JParticipantQuote (Gene @ Dec. 13 2009,12:04) You have bought into the false teachings about SATAN presented by false religions. peace and love ………………gene
Hi Gene,I don't ask people to agree with my views.
If you want to believe differently; that's OK.Let's try not to accuse though; OK.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 13, 2009 at 2:16 am#164046NickHassanParticipantG,
Jesus spoke of the devil, the adversary, the devil, often.
But then it is against your dogmas.December 13, 2009 at 8:44 am#164069Ed JParticipantQuote (Gene @ Dec. 13 2009,12:04) Ed J…..The word SATAN (MEANS) ADVERSARY AND THAT IS ALL IT MEANS, Peer was acting as an ADVERSARY to Jesus, so Jesus rightly called him Satan. Anyone can be a SATAN (ADVERSARY) of GOD.
And GOD can be a SATAN or (ADVERSARY) also if he choses to. You have bought into the false teachings about SATAN presented by false religions.peace and love ………………gene
Hi Gene,The name Lucifer means: ‘to boast or make a showing and selfish rage or praise’.
The name Lucifer also means ‘giver of light and bright morning star’. (Rev.22:16)
Babylon means confusion.So then, the King of Babylon is the giver of confusing light, with adversarial rage
to those who stand in opposition to his confusing light.Rev.17:3,5 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a [whore] sit upon
a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns(Rev.12:3).
And upon her forehead was a name written, (‘i am’=23) MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. (2Thess.2:3)Luke 20:41-44 And he(YÄ-shü-ă hă Mäh-shē-äkh) said unto them(Sadducees), How say they that Christ is David's son?
And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, [YHVH] said unto my(David’s) Lord(YÄ-shü-ă), Sit thou on my right hand(Psalm 110:1),
Till I make thine enemies thy footstool(Psalm 110:2). David therefore calleth him(YÄ-shü-ă), Lord, how is he(Christ) then his(David's) son?Rev.21:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel(צד) to testify unto you these things in the churches.
i am(is Lucifer/Satan) the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
You can believe whatever you want; but this is what the Bible teaches concerning Lucifer/Satan!God bless
ED J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 13, 2009 at 9:16 am#164071NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
So you say.
But numbers are your bible.December 13, 2009 at 4:32 pm#164103terrariccaParticipanthi ed J
i have read your partly finish book,i must say it is to say the least confusing becauce it does not tells me anything i already know,and it comes up with more questions so i figure that your book creates more ignorance than knowledge,it would fit more in a mistery novel than in a bible study,in the book it seems you agree that you dont know what every body dont know,you try to impress the ignorant,other wise i dont see what is the meaning and relevanse for this book,maybe try to cash in dollars??
this is not something the saints would publish.December 13, 2009 at 5:59 pm#164112NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Jesus is indeed the bright morning star.[2Peter and rev22]
LIGHT GIVER does not mean BRIGHT MORNING STAR any more than it means torch or sun or moon does it?December 13, 2009 at 6:00 pm#164114NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Jesus was full of light and truth.
He became light for us because the light of God was in him.December 13, 2009 at 6:10 pm#164116NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Not all light is of God.
“make sure the light in you is not darkness for O how deep that darkness can be”December 13, 2009 at 7:42 pm#164126Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,05:10) Hi Ed,
Not all light is of God.
“make sure the light in you is not darkness for O how deep that darkness can be”
Hi Nick,Don't you think that the advice you just gave to me applies to all of us?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 13, 2009 at 7:45 pm#164128NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Advice?
You need to prove your claims about LUCIFER …….by more than numbers.December 13, 2009 at 8:21 pm#164131Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,03:32) hi ed J
i have read your partly finish book,i must say it is to say the least confusing becauce it does not tells me anything i already know,and it comes up with more questions so i figure that your book creates more ignorance than knowledge,it would fit more in a mistery novel than in a bible study,in the book it seems you agree that you dont know what every body dont know,you try to impress the ignorant,other wise i dont see what is the meaning and relevanse for this book,maybe try to cash in dollars??
this is not something the saints would publish.
Hi Terraricca,Ezekiel 13:5-6 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.
They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.“to not fully understand the enemy is to leave oneself blind”
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 13, 2009 at 8:22 pm#164132Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,05:00) Hi Ed,
Jesus was full of light and truth.
He became light for us because the light of God was in him.
Hi Nick,117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL- ō-Hêêm
YHVH Sun: (Malachi 4:2)
YHVH(63) + Sun(54)=117GOD “is the light”: (1John 1:5)
Is(27) + the(33) + light(56)=117Numbers don’t speak truth; but numbers can confirm to people what they already believe.
Numbers can be a second “witness”. “And God himself”=117“YHVH is GOD”=117
Isaiah 44:25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish; (Ezekiel 13:5-6)
(“And God himself”)That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; (Isaiah 60:14)
and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof: (Jeremiah 30:18)God bless
ED J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 13, 2009 at 8:29 pm#164133NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
I agree that numbers can support truth but as you say they can also be used to support mere beliefs.December 13, 2009 at 9:08 pm#164138GeneBalthropParticipantEd J……….is right the word (Lucifier), means (RISING STAR) or morning star. Jesus is described as the Bright and Morning Star, that is the same words which are the definition of Lucifer. People have been duped into believing it means a so-called Being so-called SATAN. Pure hog wash. Get the meaning all you people who are quoting Scriptures so you can get the understanding associated with them. The simple meaning of the word SATAN is ADVERSARY and anyone can be a ADVERSARY of GOD and JESUS, and (ARE) DEVILS and SATAN'S. AS Jesus (PLAINLY) SHOWED US> Some worship the scriptures as GOD, some worship Jesus as GOD, but few worship worship GOD the FATHER as the (ONLY) TRUE GOD. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
December 13, 2009 at 9:12 pm#164139Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,07:29) Hi ED,
I agree that numbers can support truth but as you say they can also be used to support mere beliefs.
Hi Nick,Matt.1816 But if he(Terraricca) will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.Gematria: illustrated as a parable, is much like a loaded gun…
Is a gun an instrument of evil? That depends on how it is used; doesn’t it?
In the hands of a rebellious criminal, it is indeed. Yet put that same gun
in the hands of a trained Police officer and it becomes an instrument of peace.This powerful information is relatively unknown to mainstream Christianity, yet it is
neither irrelevant nor inconsequential; and can be proven that God orchestrated it’s design!Prov.25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
Prov.18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.In the free e-book called “HolyCityBibleCode”, I expound upon these proofs in greater detail.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 13, 2009 at 9:19 pm#164140NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Better to first find truth in scripture supported and proven by repetition.
Here men are either hoist by their own petard or reliant on one verse.
Jesus proved his own mission and many other things by scripture.The rest, including numbers, is supportive at best.
December 13, 2009 at 11:17 pm#164166Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,08:19) Hi ED,
Better to first find truth in scripture supported and proven by repetition.
Here men are either hoist by their own petard or reliant on one verse.
Jesus proved his own mission and many other things by scripture.The rest, including numbers, is supportive at best.
Hi Nick,Wise advice.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 14, 2009 at 1:34 am#164200terrariccaParticipanthi edj
ezek 13;5-7 talk abode fals proptetes and verse 1-4 talks abode the true foundation in your heart based on the true word of god.
this is what i do.verse 8 is more adressed to other people who teaches and writghs books.
as for Math,18;16 it is a oxi morant to say and juge me of sin,you are placing youself above the law even the law of christ,are you christians?????you to nick it seems you approve is comments.
Eze 13:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Eze 13:2 Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear ye the word of the LORD;
Eze 13:3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!
Eze 13:4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts.
Eze 13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.
Eze 13:6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.
Eze 13:7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?
Eze 13:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
Eze 13:10 Because, even because they haveMat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.in whch way do have trespass ogainst you ????????
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