Muhammad's covenant to christians

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  • #172119
    NickHassan
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    Hi BD,
    But the quran is not inspired and that is obvious to anyone born of the Spirit.

    #172121
    Proclaimer
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    We need another place to put this discussion.

    Any ideas.
    Another area in this Board where people from other religions can debate with believers?

    It doesn't belong in the Believers Place.

    #172122
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 22 2009,18:45)
    We need another place to put this discussion.

    Any ideas.
    Another area in this Board where people from other religions can debate with believers?

    It doesn't belong in the Believers Place.


    Segregation that attempts to belittle others is not my bag. However perhaps you can create something that says “Other beliefs”

    I myself will not post in anything called Unbelievers or Nonbelievers as it would be a sin to act as if I don't know God for the sake of posting.

    Perhaps you should make a section called “general theology”
    and change “believers place” into “Christian corner” or something but still it is odd that you consider yourself part of the same church as those whom nick refers to as “The Whore”

    so instead of coming out of her you want to become more intimate with her? That's what really confuses me. You even have occultists but you only get frustrated with Muslims? How confusing.

    #172123
    GeneBalthrop
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    DB……….The frustration comes when we (PUSH) a particulate organizations Faith, No matter if is is “Muslim” or “Christianity” We here work to better understand (ONE) Text Which is (OUR) Bible Text, which has been misrepresented and altered in some places , to try to gain a solid understand of (that) text, but when you introduce your Ouran text into the mix then we it appears you are here pushing you Muslim FAITH, so it distracts from our TEXT, making things more difficult and introduces arguments about FAITHS instead of concentrating on our existing text. Do you understand what i am saying. Look you have said many thing here that are good and understandable and we all appreciate it, but we need to stay on what our Bible text is saying, not what another religious text says. IMO

    peace and love to you and your…………………..gene

    #172124
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    It is not being belittled to be told you are outside of the promises of God in Christ.
    You follow a false trail and want others to come with you?

    #172125
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Gene @ Nov. 23 2009,04:07)
    DB……….The frustration comes when we (PUSH) a particulate organizations Faith, No matter if is is “Muslim” or “Christianity” We here work to better understand  (ONE) Text Which is (OUR) Bible Text, which has been misrepresented and altered in some places , to try to gain a solid understand of (that) text, but when you introduce your Ouran text into the mix then we it appears you are here pushing you Muslim FAITH, so it distracts from our TEXT, making things more difficult and introduces arguments about FAITHS instead of concentrating on our existing text. Do you understand what i am saying.  Look you have said many thing here that are good and understandable and we all appreciate it, but we need to stay on what our Bible text is saying, not what another religious text says.   IMO

    peace and love to you and your…………………..gene


    I haven't told anyone they should be a Muslim as that is the responsibility of the person to choose as far as The Quran is concerned If I am using it to comfirm my understanding of The Bible of course it would make sense to show others where I am coming from or why I understand something the way I do.

    #172126
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 23 2009,04:53)
    Hi BD,
    It is not being belittled to be told you are outside of the promises of God in Christ.
    You follow a false trail and want others to come with you?


    Yes it is Nick especially since it's not true unless you reject what Christ himself said.

    If Jesus did not come to condemn the world and says he judges no Man are you greater than are you greater than your lord to condemn and judge?

    #172127
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    The vessels chosen by God as apostles still were in need of full cleansing when Jesus was with them.

    He told John and his brother they did not know what spirit they were of when the wanted to call down fire from heaven.

    #172128
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    To be told you are following a false prophet and a false teacher is not to be judged or belittled.
    No one agrees with your claim that your ways are of God.
    Wake up.

    #172129
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    DB………Look we have 99% of Christianity that Believe in a False Teaching (TRINITY) pluse other false teachings, as you well know , you can see by reading all these Posts and know that, look if you believe in Jesus and it seems you do, then join the fight , the Quran has nothing to do with this fight it only add confusion and creates detractions, Jump on Board but work from Our same text, we know nothing about the Quran nor do I for one care to. You seem to have a lot of Knowledge about our text and have some good point you bring out so lets just work from our texts and try to clarify all the false (mystery) teachings that have developed over the past two thousand years, We are making strive Here and advancing in our understandings  all of us are, so join us in this quest. God is truly working Here and is with Us giving us more and more (true) understanding.  IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

    #172130
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Gene @ Nov. 23 2009,09:02)
    DB………Look we have 99% of Christianity that Believe in a False Teaching (TRINITY) pluse other false teachings, as you well know , you can see by reading all these Posts and know that, look if you believe in Jesus and it seems you do, then join the fight , the Quran has nothing to do with this fight it only add confusion and creates detractions, Jump on Board but work from Our same text, we know nothing about the Quran nor do I for one care to. You seem to have a lot of Knowledge about our text and have some good point you bring out so lets just work from our texts and try to clarify all the false (mystery) teachings that have developed over the past two thousand years, We are making strive Here and advancing in our understandings  all of us are, so join us in this quest. God is truly working Here and is with Us giving us more and more (true) understanding.  IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene


    Believe it or not I have had better results exposing the trinity with the Quran than the Bible and the reason is the Bible is written in layers that can justify just about any of the beliefs these christians believe in but the Quran doesn't allow for this kind of manipulation. The Quran confirms the REAL way of Christ.

    And no matter what you have learned about the false views of Mainstream Christianity every single person who is a Muslim has started in the position and understanding that you have strived to attain. Keep in mind this is at the height of Christianity and the Trinity and Worship of Christ as God and even Mary worship God sent down the Quran and dismissed these false notions 1400 years ago and everything you believe is in alignment with the Quran except the death of Jesus.

    The Virgin Birth is in The Quran
    The return of Jesus is in the Quran
    The dismissal of false doctrine is in the Quran but is not in the Bible because of when it was written but the word “trinity” is in the Quran and it is called sinful to even say that God is 3.

    After much study of the Quran there is no doubt that the author is God Himself, but most don't pay heed.

    #172131
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    We know you follow Muhummad and the quran.
    But we don't.

    #172132
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 23 2009,11:34)
    Hi BD,
    We know you follow Muhummad and the quran.
    But we don't.


    Nor am I telling you to do so my only motivation is to discuss Submission to God for without no one will have salvation no matter what they believe.

    #172133
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    So how can you claim you live in submission to God when you follow a false prophet?

    #172134
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 23 2009,11:44)
    Hi BD,
    So how can you claim you live in submission to God when you follow a false prophet?


    I Follow The LIVING GOD.

    #172135
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    But you walked away from His Son?

    #172136
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 23 2009,11:48)
    Hi BD,
    But you walked away from His Son?


    No, I walked through the door of his son and the Father embraced me.

    #172137
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Then off you went after Muhammed?

    #172138
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 23 2009,11:54)
    Hi BD,
    Then off you went after Muhammed?


    No more than others went after Paul or the revelations of John

    #172139
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,
    Christ was in the brothers but your leader stands apart.

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