Mikeboll64 vs francis

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,09:57)

HI WJ, Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. You cannot have 200% of anything, WJ; Wake-up! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed

You didn't answer the question…

Are you denying that there is more than “One Spirit” in you?

How many “Spirits” do you have living in you Ed?

WJ

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,01:57)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,01:43) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,09:35) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,01:30) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,09:24) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,01:11) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 20 2010,17:40) Quote Instead, it teaches that Jesus was both 100% God and 100% human. Hi WJ, In math you can't have 200%? (Matthew 1:18 / Matthew 1:20 / Luke 1:35) (Luke 10:30-37)                         Jesus lineage explained “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36) “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31) “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35) At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)! At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14) Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…                    Mother         Father                     Mary         HolySpirit                      50%           50%                          \              /                            \          /                              Jesus                             /        \                           /            \                                 /                \               Son of Man     Son of God              (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35) Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) ED J Thats your problem ED is you are trying to figure out God by using math. Forget the math, Jesus is fully God according to the Spirit and fully man according to the flesh. Comprende? WJ Hi WJ, Are you saying that Jesus didn't (according to WJ) have a spirit of his own? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org ED Where do you read that in my statement? The Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God, is Jesus! Rom 8:9 There is only “One Spirit” Ed! WJ Hi WJ, Are you denying Jesus had a 'spirit' of his own? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org ED When I give you the answer, why do you ask the same question?  Again… No, I am denying there is more than “One Spirit”. Are you denying that there is more than “One Spirit” in you? WJ HI WJ, Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. You cannot have 200% of anything, WJ; Wake-up! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi WJ,

This Post answered your question!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:04)

Hi WJ, This Post answered your question! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No it didn't. Unless you are saying that there is more than “One Spirit” in you.

Is there more than “One Spirit” in you ED?

Why be vague, it is a yes or no answer.

How many Spirits do you have in you?

Is it “One”, “Two”, “Three”, or a “hundred”?

You are a man of numbers please answer the questions.

WJ

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:08)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:04) Hi WJ, This Post answered your question! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No it didn't. Unless you are saying that there is more than “One Spirit” in you. Is there more than “One Spirit” in you ED? Why be vague, it is a yes or no answer. How many Spirits do you have in you? Is it “One”, “Two”, “Three”, or a “hundred”? You are a man of numbers please answer the questions. WJ

Hi WJ,

There is my spirit and God in me! (Isaiah 45:14 / 1John 4:4)

Romans 8:16 The Spirit(HolySpirit) itself beareth witness with our spirit(in my case Ed J's spirit),
that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;
if so be that we suffer with him(I indeed suffered as did he), that we may be also glorified together.

How do 'you feel' that this doesn't answer your question?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:19)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:08) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:04) Hi WJ, This Post answered your question! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No it didn't. Unless you are saying that there is more than “One Spirit” in you. Is there more than “One Spirit” in you ED? Why be vague, it is a yes or no answer. How many Spirits do you have in you? Is it “One”, “Two”, “Three”, or a “hundred”? You are a man of numbers please answer the questions. WJ Hi WJ, There is my spirit and God in me! (Isaiah 45:14 / 1John 4:4) Romans 8:16 The Spirit(HolySpirit) itself beareth witness with our spirit(in my case Ed J's spirit), that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him(I indeed suffered as did he), that we may be also glorified together. How do 'you feel' that this doesn't answer your question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

ED

Good, then you know that Jesus is God since there is only “One Spirit” in you. 2 Cor 13:5

WJ

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:47)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:19) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:08) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:04) Hi WJ, This Post answered your question! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No it didn't. Unless you are saying that there is more than “One Spirit” in you. Is there more than “One Spirit” in you ED? Why be vague, it is a yes or no answer. How many Spirits do you have in you? Is it “One”, “Two”, “Three”, or a “hundred”? You are a man of numbers please answer the questions. WJ Hi WJ, There is my spirit and God in me! (Isaiah 45:14 / 1John 4:4) Romans 8:16 The Spirit(HolySpirit) itself beareth witness with our spirit(in my case Ed J's spirit), that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him(I indeed suffered as did he), that we may be also glorified together. How do 'you feel' that this doesn't answer your question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org ED Good, then you know that Jesus is God since there is only “One Spirit” in you. 2 Cor 13:5 WJ

Hi WJ,

Are you saying the Jesus didn't have his own spirit; only we do?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:47)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:19) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:08) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:04) Hi WJ, This Post answered your question! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No it didn't. Unless you are saying that there is more than “One Spirit” in you. Is there more than “One Spirit” in you ED? Why be vague, it is a yes or no answer. How many Spirits do you have in you? Is it “One”, “Two”, “Three”, or a “hundred”? You are a man of numbers please answer the questions. WJ Hi WJ, There is my spirit and God in me! (Isaiah 45:14 / 1John 4:4) Romans 8:16 The Spirit(HolySpirit) itself beareth witness with our spirit(in my case Ed J's spirit), that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him(I indeed suffered as did he), that we may be also glorified together. How do 'you feel' that this doesn't answer your question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org ED Good, then you know that Jesus is God since there is only “One Spirit” in you. 2 Cor 13:5 WJ

Hi WJ,

Are you saying that Jesus didn't have his own spirit; only we do?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,12:59)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:47) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:19) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:08) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:04) Hi WJ, This Post answered your question! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No it didn't. Unless you are saying that there is more than “One Spirit” in you. Is there more than “One Spirit” in you ED? Why be vague, it is a yes or no answer. How many Spirits do you have in you? Is it “One”, “Two”, “Three”, or a “hundred”? You are a man of numbers please answer the questions. WJ Hi WJ, There is my spirit and God in me! (Isaiah 45:14 / 1John 4:4) Romans 8:16 The Spirit(HolySpirit) itself beareth witness with our spirit(in my case Ed J's spirit), that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him(I indeed suffered as did he), that we may be also glorified together. How do 'you feel' that this doesn't answer your question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org ED Good, then you know that Jesus is God since there is only “One Spirit” in you. 2 Cor 13:5 WJ Hi WJ, Are you saying the Jesus didn't have his own spirit; only we do? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed

Read 2 Cor 13:5 and that should answer your question.

Jesus is the Spirit that lives in us for there is only “One Spirit” and that Spirit is God is it not?

WJ

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,18:56)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,19:17) Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 21 2010,02:52) The Scriptures warns of those who would try to pursuade againt God using phylosophical arguments. Ha ha ha ha ha hah… Verse? Hi SF, Have you forgotten so quickly, this is what gets BURNED UP! Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 2Pt.3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the rudiments shall melt with fervent heat? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed J,
Do you mind? i was speaking to JA to supply the verse he was referring too.

Thank you, stick to math.

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,06:03)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,12:59) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,04:47) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:19) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2010,02:08) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,10:04) Hi WJ, This Post answered your question! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No it didn't. Unless you are saying that there is more than “One Spirit” in you. Is there more than “One Spirit” in you ED? Why be vague, it is a yes or no answer. How many Spirits do you have in you? Is it “One”, “Two”, “Three”, or a “hundred”? You are a man of numbers please answer the questions. WJ Hi WJ, There is my spirit and God in me! (Isaiah 45:14 / 1John 4:4) Romans 8:16 The Spirit(HolySpirit) itself beareth witness with our spirit(in my case Ed J's spirit), that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him(I indeed suffered as did he), that we may be also glorified together. How do 'you feel' that this doesn't answer your question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org ED Good, then you know that Jesus is God since there is only “One Spirit” in you. 2 Cor 13:5 WJ Hi WJ, Are you saying the Jesus didn't have his own spirit; only we do? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed Read 2 Cor 13:5 and that should answer your question. Jesus is the Spirit that lives in us for there is only “One Spirit” and that Spirit is God is it not? WJ

Hi WJ,

John 17:21 That they all may be one(in spirit); as thou, Father(HolySpirit), art in me(John 1:33-34),
and I in thee(1Pt.1:11), that they also may be one in us(John 14:23): that the world may believe that thou
hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may
know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

When God's spirit becomes resident in us (Eph4:4-6),
does that mean we also (according to WJ) become God (John 1:33-34)?

You still haven't answered the question…
Does Jesus have a spirit of his own?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:08)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,18:56) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,19:17) Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 21 2010,02:52) The Scriptures warns of those who would try to pursuade againt God using phylosophical arguments. Ha ha ha ha ha hah… Verse? Hi SF, Have you forgotten so quickly, this is what gets BURNED UP! Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 2Pt.3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the rudiments shall melt with fervent heat? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed J, Do you mind? i was speaking to JA to supply the verse he was referring too. Thank you, stick to math.

Hi SF,

You don't get to make up 'rules' here
any more than Kathi 'thinks' that she gets to!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[SimplyForgiven]

WJ,

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For those who find the seeming contradiction of God being Father and Son, in Heaven and on earth simultaneously, an insurmountable one, consider some of the contradictions of your own position, which demonstrate the weakness of your logical arguments against this truth. Earlier I quoted where Jesus told Philip that those who have seen Him have seen the Father. Question: If the Son is not the Father, how then can Jesus say they have seen the Father by seeing the Son? What would be the point of seeing the Father then? Or is it that none born of God will ever see their own Father? Jesus says that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. He also says,“He who believes on Me, the works that I do he shall do also, and greater works than these he shall do, because I go to My Father” (John 14:12 MKJV). Question: How can He go to His Father if, as He said, “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me”? Is He not already there?

Paul Cohen

“Jesus Christ, Almighty God” by Victor Hafichuk and Paul Cohen http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachin….god.htm

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,00:23)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:08) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 21 2010,18:56) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 21 2010,19:17) Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 21 2010,02:52) The Scriptures warns of those who would try to pursuade againt God using phylosophical arguments. Ha ha ha ha ha hah… Verse? Hi SF, Have you forgotten so quickly, this is what gets BURNED UP! Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 2Pt.3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the rudiments shall melt with fervent heat? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed J, Do you mind? i was speaking to JA to supply the verse he was referring too. Thank you, stick to math. Hi SF, You don't get to make up 'rules' here any more than Kathi 'thinks' that she gets to! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

I Sure can make up rules =)
I learned from the best (Mike)
As in your post directed towards me, is meaningless and nonsense.

I asked JA a direct question for my own intentions. (muhahahaha)

I find your post unnessary, when i had a deeper meaning to my post towards JA, if he ever chose to answer.

(and what does Kathi go to do with it, she isnt even included within this thread, thats a bit cowardly of you to speak of someone without them being included or referenced to at all within this thread.)

[Ed J]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:24)

WJ, Quote For those who find the seeming contradiction of God being Father and Son, in Heaven and on earth simultaneously, an insurmountable one, consider some of the contradictions of your own position, which demonstrate the weakness of your logical arguments against this truth. Earlier I quoted where Jesus told Philip that those who have seen Him have seen the Father. Question: If the Son is not the Father, how then can Jesus say they have seen the Father by seeing the Son? What would be the point of seeing the Father then? Or is it that none born of God will ever see their own Father? Jesus says that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. He also says,“He who believes on Me, the works that I do he shall do also, and greater works than these he shall do, because I go to My Father” (John 14:12 MKJV). Question: How can He go to His Father if, as He said, “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me”? Is He not already there? Paul Cohen “Jesus Christ, Almighty God” by Victor Hafichuk and Paul Cohen http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachin….god.htm

Hi SF,

Care to comment in this thread? (Click Here)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,02:01)

Quote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34) Hello Mike… 1) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever called God, “my God”.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that said “my God”… not His divinity. 2) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever came from God.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity. 3) Orthodox Christianity believes that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… comes from no one.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity. 4) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… was begotten.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that was begotten… not His divinity. 5) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… can ever die.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that died on the cross… not His divinity. 6) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… took sin upon Himself.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that took sin upon himself and died on the cross… not His divinity. God Bless You Respectfully, Francis Hi Everyone, Where are “the bible verses” for any of these, which Francis attributes to Orthodox Christianity? 5) Here is the verses for point number 5!   …Luke 10:30-37     This is because Jesus (in the flesh) was 1/2 God.     (see Fourth Post on previous page) Are these other points all factious? If NOT, produce “the bible verses”!!! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Hi SF, Care to comment on any of these? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Francis made a great point in distinguishing what is temporal and eternal.

He uses a logical arguement that distinguishes the Divine nature of Chirst and his Human nature.
The Body can be clearly proven to come from God because it was born from the “holy spirit” into a virgins womb.

what is there left to say? he makes a good point.

[Ed J]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:47)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,02:01) Quote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34) Hello Mike… 1) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever called God, “my God”.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that said “my God”… not His divinity. 2) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever came from God.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity. 3) Orthodox Christianity believes that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… comes from no one.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity. 4) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… was begotten.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that was begotten… not His divinity. 5) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… can ever die.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that died on the cross… not His divinity. 6) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… took sin upon Himself.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that took sin upon himself and died on the cross… not His divinity. God Bless You Respectfully, Francis Hi Everyone, Where are “the bible verses” for any of these, which Francis attributes to Orthodox Christianity? 5) Here is the verses for point number 5!   …Luke 10:30-37     This is because Jesus (in the flesh) was 1/2 God.     (see Fourth Post on previous page) Are these other points all factious? If NOT, produce “the bible verses”!!! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Quote Hi SF, Care to comment on any of these? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Francis made a great point in distinguishing what is temporal and eternal. He uses a logical arguement that distinguishes the Divine nature of Chirst and his Human nature. The Body can be clearly proven to come from God because it was born from the “holy spirit” into a virgins womb. what is there left to say? he makes a good point.

Hi SF,

The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

So you have absolutely NO Scripture then to back any of the points up; right?

Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:27)

I Sure can make up rules =)

Hi SF,

Were you the one who started this thread?

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,00:51)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:47) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,02:01) Quote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34) Hello Mike… 1) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever called God, “my God”.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that said “my God”… not His divinity. 2) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever came from God.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity. 3) Orthodox Christianity believes that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… comes from no one.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity. 4) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… was begotten.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that was begotten… not His divinity. 5) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… can ever die.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that died on the cross… not His divinity. 6) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… took sin upon Himself.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that took sin upon himself and died on the cross… not His divinity. God Bless You Respectfully, Francis Hi Everyone, Where are “the bible verses” for any of these, which Francis attributes to Orthodox Christianity? 5) Here is the verses for point number 5!   …Luke 10:30-37     This is because Jesus (in the flesh) was 1/2 God.     (see Fourth Post on previous page) Are these other points all factious? If NOT, produce “the bible verses”!!! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Quote Hi SF, Care to comment on any of these? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Francis made a great point in distinguishing what is temporal and eternal. He uses a logical arguement that distinguishes the Divine nature of Chirst and his Human nature. The Body can be clearly proven to come from God because it was born from the “holy spirit” into a virgins womb. what is there left to say? he makes a good point. Hi SF, The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. So you have absolutely NO Scripture then to back any of the points up; right? Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

These are not MY points.

Am I the Writer of this post? did you get confused within your nonesense.

He has to provide this proof, or in other words required to, which if i was the Judge of Mikes debate, i would say that he needs to provide some warrents to back up his claims.

But as a person in the sidelines i dont NEED the proof because i already agree with him.

Since you DISAGREE with him, you should ask him for warrents to back up his cliams. Either way im sure he will come up with it on his own.

and its a fallacy to say that his points are WRONG, unless you bring up warrants to say why they are wrong.

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Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:27) I Sure can make up rules =) Hi SF, Were you the one who started this thread? Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Im sure WJ has no objections to my post and my “rule making”

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,00:51) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 22 2010,06:47) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,02:01) Quote (francis @ Dec. 21 2010,02:34) Hello Mike… 1) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever called God, “my God”.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that said “my God”… not His divinity. 2) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… ever came from God.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity. 3) Orthodox Christianity believes that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… comes from no one.  This is because Jesus is God.  Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that came from God… not His divinity. 4) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… was begotten.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that was begotten… not His divinity. 5) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… can ever die.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that died on the cross… not His divinity. 6) Orthodox Christianity does not believe that Jesus… the Divine part of him… the Deity part of him… took sin upon Himself.  This is because Jesus is God.   Instead it was Jesus' fully human body and human consciousness that took sin upon himself and died on the cross… not His divinity. God Bless You Respectfully, Francis Hi Everyone, Where are “the bible verses” for any of these, which Francis attributes to Orthodox Christianity? 5) Here is the verses for point number 5!   …Luke 10:30-37     This is because Jesus (in the flesh) was 1/2 God.     (see Fourth Post on previous page) Are these other points all factious? If NOT, produce “the bible verses”!!! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Quote Hi SF, Care to comment on any of these? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Francis made a great point in distinguishing what is temporal and eternal. He uses a logical arguement that distinguishes the Divine nature of Chirst and his Human nature. The Body can be clearly proven to come from God because it was born from the “holy spirit” into a virgins womb. what is there left to say? he makes a good point. Hi SF, The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. So you have absolutely NO Scripture then to back any of the points up; right? Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org These are not MY points. Am I the Writer of this post?  did you get confused within your nonesense. He has to provide this proof, or in other words required to, which if i was the Judge of Mikes debate, i would say that he needs to provide some warrents to back up his claims. But as a person in the sidelines i dont NEED the proof because i already agree with him.   Since you DISAGREE with him, you should ask him for warrents to back up his cliams.   Either way im sure he will come up with it on his own.   and its a fallacy to say that his points are WRONG, unless you bring up warrants to say why they are wrong.

Hi SF,

1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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