MIKE, TERRA, ED

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2012,21:27)

Hi Pierre, How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother?

You make an excellent point, Ed.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 30 2012,10:50)

Quote those scriptures you are quoting do not deny that mary was the mother being a surrogate Mother still his a mother , how could the son of God created in the same nature than his father become a man that will pay the prize for our sins unless God intervine to make it happen ,Mary was the servant of God and so provided her body to bring the son of God the savior by choice by God ,why would God use sinfull flesh can sinfull flesh save is some thing pure and holy sinfull ???not to me ————– Pierre Brother Pierre, In this we are in agreement.  Mary had NO DNA in Jesus. bro. Marlin

Then how can he be the son of david?

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,11:09)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,13:21) Are you going to answer my question now? ed Hi Pierre, “How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother?” answer me this question first;  how can God be our father if he his not a human

Hi Pierre,

Because he has adopted us:  (See Romans 8:15-16)

“Ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:”

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 30 2012,08:35)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,11:09) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,13:21) Are you going to answer my question now? ed Hi Pierre, “How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother?” answer me this question first;  how can God be our father if he his not a human Hi Pierre, Because he has adopted us:  (See Romans 8:15-16) “Ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

and so that his true ,now read back the story of the birth of Christ ,paid attention to the wording of the angel and the answers of Mary

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 30 2012,08:35)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,11:09) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,13:21) Are you going to answer my question now? ed Hi Pierre, “How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother?” answer me this question first;  how can God be our father if he his not a human Hi Pierre, Because he has adopted us:  (See Romans 8:15-16) “Ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

so no DNA needed right yes

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2012,07:48)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2012,21:27) Hi Pierre, How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother? You make an excellent point, Ed.

tell me in what lineage did he come from on Joseph side

he his not his father biological that his

Mt 1:16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

[Marlin1]

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1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

Brother Mike, it is interesting how you can read the same scripture that I can read and come up with TWO Gods, where I only have ONE.

It amazes me that you don't see that as a problem (1st commandment).  Long before Jesus the man came to earth, every thing that is, is being made by (or through) your little god.

NOPE, I will continue with the ONE true GOD manifesting Himself as He sees fit.

There really isn't much difference between what you believe and what the Trinity people believe, except they have one more person that they make a god out of and they also claim it is ok, just like you do.

Everything was made by GOD, through His LOGOS, which of course is STILL HIM, He in His theophany was know as the Son of God.  In fact it was the only visible image of God then.  That is who Moses seen the back parts of.  Now this is Who became Flesh and dwelt among man.  It was God all the time, just in a different office.

Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord:
One doesn't mean 1.5 or 2 or 2.5 or 3 gods, it means one.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,14:15)

so no DNA needed right yes

No DNA is needed for what?

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,14:14)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 30 2012,08:35) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,11:09) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,13:21) Are you going to answer my question now? ed Hi Pierre, “How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother?” answer me this question first;  how can God be our father if he his not a human Hi Pierre, Because he has adopted us:  (See Romans 8:15-16) “Ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org and so that his true ,now read back the story of the birth of Christ ,paid attention to the wording of the angel and the answers of Mary

I answered your question, now answer mine, like you said you would.

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,14:16)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2012,07:48) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2012,21:27) Hi Pierre, How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother? You make an excellent point, Ed. tell me in what lineage did he come from on Joseph side he his not his father biological that his Mt 1:16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

Hi Pierre,

That is why Luke gave the correct lineage of Mary, Jesus biological Mother.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 30 2012,12:41)

Quote (terraria @ Nov. 30 2012,14:16) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2012,07:48) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2012,21:27) Hi Pierre, How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother? You make an excellent point, Ed. tell me in what lineage did he come from on Joseph side he his not his father biological that his Mt 1:16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Hi Pierre, That is why Luke gave the correct lineage of Mary, Jesus biological Mother. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

ed

his Christ not of the root of Jesse what that mean

the fact that men do not understand Gods plan according to themselves it does not make God a liar,

no one can deny that Mary was the women that gives birth to Christ right yes ,yes, yes,but that's all you or any one can swear to it to be true

now is a surrogate mother gives birth yes or no yes ,yes,yes,

in the case of Jacob and Esau the twins who was the real elder son was it not Jacobs ???the first and Esau the last

is not the first that has been conceive the last one to come out of the womb yes

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 30 2012,13:35)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,11:09) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,13:21) Are you going to answer my question now? ed Hi Pierre, “How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother?” answer me this question first;  how can God be our father if he his not a human Hi Pierre, Because he has adopted us:  (See Romans 8:15-16) “Ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Were you lying, when you said you were going to answer my question after I answered yours?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 01 2012,01:36)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 30 2012,13:35) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,11:09) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,13:21) Are you going to answer my question now? ed Hi Pierre, “How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother?” answer me this question first;  how can God be our father if he his not a human Hi Pierre, Because he has adopted us:  (See Romans 8:15-16) “Ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Were you lying, when you said you were going to answer my question after I answered yours?

ED

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“How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother?”

it does not matter that Mary his not the biolagical mother of Christ because God never intend that she would be ,that is what I try to show you ,with other events, but you stuck on biology,

God does not care about biology,but he care that his words are accomplished

to have an biological mother you need an biological father

if not you do not have an biological son ,

so where we standing now eddy

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre,

So Romans 1:3, to you, is wrong then – correct?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 01 2012,04:52)

Hi Pierre, So Romans 1:3, to you, is wrong then – correct? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDDY

RO 1:3 concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh,

what is it that scripture says it says that the son is BORN ;MEANS CAME OUT OF A WOMEN , and that that women was an descendante of KING DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH ,

I do not see anything wrong with this ,all his true

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,23:56)

Everything was made by GOD, through His LOGOS, which of course is STILL HIM, He in His theophany was know as the Son of God.

Did you read what I wrote about 1 John 1? This particular “word of life” was seen by human eyes, and touched by human hands.

Has any man ever seen God, Marlin? Has any man ever seen Jesus? There's your answer. Jesus can not have been God because many men saw him, and no man has seen God at any time.

I have one question that I hope you'll actually answer:

Is Jesus ever called a god in any scripture? YES or NO?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,17:17)

what is it that scripture says it says that the son is BORN ;MEANS CAME OUT OF A WOMEN , and that that women was an descendante of KING DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH ,

Hi Pierre,

I see your point. You are saying that scripture teaches Jesus was BORN of Mary. It does not SPECIFICALLY say he is of her genes.

But it does not say he is NOT of her genes, either, right? So what scriptures lead you to believe that Mary's genes are not a part of Jesus' makeup?

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2012,07:00)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 30 2012,17:17) what is it that scripture says it says that the son is BORN ;MEANS CAME OUT OF A WOMEN , and that that women was an descendante of KING DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH , Hi Pierre, I see your point.  You are saying that scripture teaches Jesus was BORN of Mary.  It does not SPECIFICALLY say he is of her genes. But it does not say he is NOT of her genes, either, right?  So what scriptures lead you to believe that Mary's genes are not a part of Jesus' makeup?

Mike

because there is no reasons for it ,sins Christ was a complete individual ,he ad already a soul ,and so did not need anything from men ,he was perfect in all means of the word ,blameless,without sins not even Mary sin from the flesh,
he his the son of God the perfect lamd without blamish,

if he would have the 23 chromozones from Mary he would have also taken part of her sinful nature that was transmitted though Adam and to all flesh ,she his a surrogate mother of the son of God ,

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2012,10:17)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 01 2012,04:52) Hi Pierre, So Romans 1:3, to you, is wrong then – correct? God bless Ed J EDDY RO 1:3 concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh, what is it that scripture says it says that the son is BORN ;MEANS CAME OUT OF A WOMEN , and that that women was an descendante of KING DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH , I do not see anything wrong with this ,all his true

Hi Pierre,

If Mary was only a surrogate Mother,
then he would not be of the seed of David.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 01 2012,09:20)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2012,10:17) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 01 2012,04:52) Hi Pierre, So Romans 1:3, to you, is wrong then – correct? God bless Ed J EDDY RO 1:3 concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh, what is it that scripture says it says that the son is BORN ;MEANS CAME OUT OF A WOMEN , and that that women was an descendante of KING DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH , I do not see anything wrong with this ,all his true Hi Pierre, If Mary was only a surrogate Mother, then he would not be of the seed of David. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

eddy

again read the scriptures Rom 1;3

open your eyes please

RO 1:3 concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh,

IT SAYS “WHO(Christ) WAS BORN OF (MARY) A DESCENDANT OF DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH '

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