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Quote (david @ Mar. 26 2012,04:59) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,06:13) i David,
Yes the JWs do promote many errors.
Yes, Nick, I agree with you that you are mostly wrong all the time. Well said. Also, I like it when you start a post to me saying “yes” as though you are agreeing with something i said.Nick, this tactic, which you have done roughly 300 times over the past 7 years is deceptive and misleading.
Yes, Nick, come out of her. Buy and then embrace the Bible. And learn how to stay on Topic. You are at least supposed to pretend to be a moderator, after all.
Hi David,(Do you know all about being deceptive and misleading?)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ Mar. 26 2012,05:17) Michael is said to be the Captain of the Angel host of God
Hi David, are you suggesting that is Michael the Archangel in this verse?…(Josh 5:13-14) “And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked,
and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him,
and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come.”God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org.
David said:Quote
JW's, who picked up some of their beliefs from Adventists, say that Jesus is Michael the archangel
Jesus CAN'T be Michael!Hebrews 1:4-5 [Jesus] Being made so much better than the angels,
as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I
begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,09:23) Hi Ed,
Mike wants him to be both an angel and a lesser god.
fantasy city
Hi Nick,He also believes Jesus preexisted, but doesn't have a position to plug him into?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,15:19) Hi MB,
Does it mean that?
If Jesus the Nazarene was a man what does partaking of flesh mean?Could it be it is about Jesus becoming the Christ?
The WORD became flesh and dwelt among us.
OR………………………….Could it be about Jesus pre-existing his flesh as a spirit being, and THEN partaking in flesh – like MANY scriptures bear out?
Quote (toby @ Mar. 25 2012,15:51) If you desire to keep your understanding of this, then you will need to explain how you say that Jesus was not Created, when all the other Angels were said to be created.
Well that's an easy fix, Toby.I've typed my fingers to the bone trying to convince others through the actual scriptures that Jesus WAS created by his God. He is the first thing God ever created, and all other things were then created through him.
In fact, I've just started a thread called “Was Jesus Created?” to address this very thing. Come join us in that discussion.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,11:21) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,15:19) Hi MB,
Does it mean that?
If Jesus the Nazarene was a man what does partaking of flesh mean?Could it be it is about Jesus becoming the Christ?
The WORD became flesh and dwelt among us.
OR………………………….Could it be about Jesus pre-existing his flesh as a spirit being, and THEN partaking in flesh – like MANY scriptures bear out?
Hi MB,
Was he a BEING?Scripture does not say so but men have drawn inferences from human 'wisdom'.
What about JUST SPIRIT
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,16:23) Hi Ed,
Mike wants him to be both an angel and a lesser god.
fantasy city
Ahhhh……………..The old put down and belittlement tactic!
That is usually the last resort of the desperate, Nick.Instead, why not try to prove me scripturally wrong when I say that Jesus is an angel and a lesser god than the God of all gods? Does it not stand to reason that if Jehovah is “God Most High”, then there are other gods who are “less high” than Him?
The whole of scripture awaits you. Find the ones that prove me wrong. I'll give you a little head start, because I'm very familiar with the ones that prove me right.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,18:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,11:21) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,15:19) Hi MB,
Does it mean that?
If Jesus the Nazarene was a man what does partaking of flesh mean?Could it be it is about Jesus becoming the Christ?
The WORD became flesh and dwelt among us.
OR………………………….Could it be about Jesus pre-existing his flesh as a spirit being, and THEN partaking in flesh – like MANY scriptures bear out?
Hi MB,
Was he a BEING?Scripture does not say so but men have drawn inferences from human 'wisdom'.
What about JUST SPIRIT
“I think, therefore I am”.Nick, did Jesus come down from heaven to do his own will? Or the will of He who sent him? Which one does scripture bear out?
In order to have one's own will, that one must be able to think, and have ambitions of his own. Those abilities define a “being”.
Now I know that this shoots holes all over your unscriptural doctrine, and so you have no choice but to pretend you don't understand this simple concept. And by the time people like you realize that the rest of us know you CAN understand the concept but just don't want to admit it, out come the “human wisdom” quips – that amount to nothing – as if God would leave us with a guidebook that our brains were incapable of understanding.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,18:31) Hi MB,
It is up to you to prove things.
Proving that Peter is not Mary is more difficult
I will gladly prove it to you scripturally IF you are willing to answer my questions. Are you willing?If so, the first one was in the 2nd post on page 4 of this thread, in bolded letters.
I'll await your answer.
And here is question #2, Nick:
Does it stand to reason that if Jehovah is “God Most High”, then there are other gods who are “less high” than Him? YES or NO?
Hi MB,
Jesus was born in Bethlehem and named after birth.
Did you mean the WORD OF LIFE?[1jn1]Definitions of beings in heaven is worse than a wild guess.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,18:31) Hi MB,
It is up to you to prove things.
Proving that Peter is not Mary is more difficult
Nwe have proved it to you with scriptures but you do not want those scriptures as they are written because they are contradicting your views
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2012,18:39) Definitions of beings in heaven is worse than a wild guess.
So you can't answer the questions from the last post on the previous page either?Nick, you are a pain – not because you don't know scripture – but because you are a master at avoiding clear questions – the answers of which will prove you wrong and give you a better understanding.
You choose to make useless quips designed to be put-downs instead of engaging in an actual discussion.
What a waste of time, IMO.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,11:39) And here is question #2, Nick: Does it stand to reason that if Jehovah is “God Most High”, then there are other gods who are “less high” than Him? YES or NO?
Hi MB,
Scripture calls angels and men gods.Hi MB,
Your idea is to force us to put answers in your greek pigeonholes so you can foist on us your ideas. But your foundations are so far shown to be rather weak and nonspiritual. You always fall back on logic rather than giving the Spirit more time.However I believe despite your bluster you are openminded to some degree and will grow in wisdom.
Blessings
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2012,18:51) Hi MB,
Your idea is to force us to put answers in your greek pigeonholes so you can foist on us your ideas. But your foundations are so far shown to be rather weak and nonspiritual. You always fall back on logic rather than giving the Spirit more time.However I believe despite your bluster you are openminded to some degree and will grow in wisdom.
Blessings
Nno answer is better than making one that prove your error right ??
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