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- November 24, 2010 at 2:37 am#226232Ed JParticipant
Hi Everyone,
Here is my opening statement…
I don't usually talk about Theomatics(numbers in Scripture) with beginner Christians,
but Atheists and those claiming to be Agnostic is different, needing the exposure!
As personal testimony of “God” means absolutely NOTHING to these people.
So let me tell you mine: I've had my understanding of God for 30 years
before numbers (such as you see in my Posts) were introduced to me.Have any of you ever seen the Jim Cary movie called: ‘Bruce Almighty’?
Well there is a scene where he is crying out to God… “God to show me a sign”!
He drives past one sign that says “Bridge Out” and then another that says “Caution”.
He is completely oblivious to the “many signs”, continuing towards an incomplete Bridge.
That is how numbers were for me, “no interest” “didn't care” and still I kept seeing the number 54,
but didn't have a clue as to why? Then I was introduced to a book called Theomatics II by Author Del Washburn.Or Are you familiar with the Prophet Amos?
Amos 7:14 …I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son;
but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the LORD took
me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.Well my story is very similar, God still uses people today and God has called me
to write a book that now documents the very “PROOF of God's existence”.
I have no buffeting spirit, like the Apostle Paul had, as I have no ego.
YHVH=63 has even wrote about me in his book: “The Bible”=63.This has only been done (as I see things) to be used as conclusive proof of GOD's existence.
Without it, I would be considered just another “crackpot”, in a long history of ‘crackpots’.
My good friend Gary Robb once said: “Nobody can know everything about everything”.
But God's kingdom is “real” and the extent of this proof is yet to be revealed to all.Sorry for the Autobiography, but it is necessary to this thread.
Numbers are corroborative evidence only; nothing more.
I have learned based on numbers: No “Theology”,
though satan might tell you all differently!God bless (Joshua 22:34 / Psalm 119:98-101)
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgCall unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not …JEHOVAH GOD
November 24, 2010 at 4:31 am#226267942767ParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 24 2010,12:37) Hi Everyone, Here is my opening statement…
I don't usually talk about Theomatics(numbers in Scripture) with beginner Christians,
but Atheists and those claiming to be Agnostic is different, needing the exposure!
As personal testimony of “God” means absolutely NOTHING to these people.
So let me tell you mine: I've had my understanding of God for 30 years
before numbers (such as you see in my Posts) were introduced to me.Have any of you ever seen the Jim Cary movie called: ‘Bruce Almighty’?
Well there is a scene where he is crying out to God… “God to show me a sign”!
He drives past one sign that says “Bridge Out” and then another that says “Caution”.
He is completely oblivious to the “many signs”, continuing towards an incomplete Bridge.
That is how numbers were for me, “no interest” “didn't care” and still I kept seeing the number 54,
but didn't have a clue as to why? Then I was introduced to a book called Theomatics II by Author Del Washburn.Or Are you familiar with the Prophet Amos?
Amos 7:14 …I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son;
but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the LORD took
me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.Well my story is very similar, God still uses people today and God has called me
to write a book that now documents the very “PROOF of God's existence”.
I have no buffeting spirit, like the Apostle Paul had, as I have no ego.
YHVH=63 has even wrote about me in his book: “The Bible”=63.This has only been done (as I see things) to be used as conclusive proof of GOD's existence.
Without it, I would be considered just another “crackpot”, in a long history of ‘crackpots’.
My good friend Gary Robb once said: “Nobody can know everything about everything”.
But God's kingdom is “real” and the extent of this proof is yet to be revealed to all.Sorry for the Autobiography, but it is necessary to this thread.
Numbers are corroborative evidence only; nothing more.
I have learned based on numbers: No “Theology”,
though satan might tell you all differently!God bless (Joshua 22:34 / Psalm 119:98-101)
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgCall unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not …JEHOVAH GOD
Hi Ed:Jesus is our example, and so, the question is, did Jesus use the number system that you use to teach about God?
I love you and want God's very best for you and your family.
Love in Christ,
MartyNovember 24, 2010 at 5:05 am#226277Ed JParticipantQuote (942767 @ Nov. 24 2010,14:31) Hi Ed: Jesus is our example, and so, the question is, did Jesus use the number system that you use to teach about God?
I love you and want God's very best for you and your family.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)Thanks for asking this question! (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.2:13 / Prob.25:2)
I know this information is in your blind spot, but you are beginning to see there is really
something to all this. I know, because I would have not gone public unless I could prove it.The Gematria I will use has a direct correlation to the AKJV Bible; cherry picked
yes, but harder to debunk, because I did NOT orchestrate its use. This pattern
has occurred over large time scales; diminishing the look of mans manipulation.Each point can be argued as merely random, but as the evidence is clearly seen as a whole,
taken together however “the facts” cannot be argued as merely random and irrelevant.Language should always supersede numbers when it comes to tying ideas together.
Numbers, however, can and should be used as a second witness though; using them
to help illustrate concepts of GOD more fully. Previously overlooked facts (for example
in a criminal case) can lead to much different conclusions.In a civil case who speaks first plays a larger role than the defense.
However in a criminal case, he who speaks first changes NO Facts pertinent to the case.
I believe this is the case with Gematria. Lies and deceptions are perpetuated when evidences
that substantiate the truth are ignored, or left un-investigated; leaving only distractions away from the truth.
Some people string combinations that match together using English Gematria, yet do not edify
(or build up) anybody; this offers little or no prove to the skeptic. Many words can be cherry picked
and strung together, the more words to choose from; the more it can be manipulated.
This type of attitude can be “a distraction”, often desensitizing people from the real proof
English Gematria offers. Single words therefore having the same total do have the most impact
and are harder to debunk.So therefore, “Jesus, “gospel”, “cross” and “messiah” all totaling 74 are all on topic.
This arrangement, in and of itself, can also be argued as cherry picked in order to debunk.Yet as more and more critical things are shown to line up, a pattern of truth
does begin to emerge that becomes harder and harder for the skeptic to debunk.Here's another sequence. “YHVH” (GOD’s Holy Name in English),
“Divine”, “Deity”, and “The Bible” are all on a topic as well, totaling 63.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNovember 24, 2010 at 1:09 pm#226315theodorejParticipantGreetings Ed…. With all due respect to yourself and the tireless effort you have employed to bring forth your findings…..I must say that the proof of Gods existance abounds….all we need to do is look at the heavens,the order of our daily existance and the wonder and the beauty of these bodies we exist in….The science of mathmatics attests to the fact that his ways are higher than ours and the proof is how he reveals things to us in his own time…If this was not the case the atomic bomb could have been invented in 1861 and used to obliterate mankind…In the final analysis the numerologic proof you present may be factual but hardly relevent…My question is…How do you know God called you to this task?…..Iam in no position nor would I want to be….to challenge your calling or demean it it any way…Iam just curious..
November 24, 2010 at 5:45 pm#226332Ed JParticipantHi Theodore J,
All should get to know the KNOWN God! (Jer.31:34)
Acts 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions,
I found ‘AN ALTAR’ with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD.
Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him(YHVH) declare I(Ed J) unto you.YHVH is GOD
they called “THE ALTAR” עֵד (Ed)
YHVH(God) has called me to bring PROOF of his existence to the world!1Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin
at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall
the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God ?God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNovember 24, 2010 at 5:45 pm#226333Ed JParticipantHi Theodore J,
YHVH is GOD=117: 117= “יהוה האלהים”(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL- ō-Hêêm!
Joshua 22:21-24 Then the children of “Reuben”(65) and the children of “Gad”(12)
and the half tribe of “Manasseh”( 80÷2=40) answered, (65+12+40=117) and said
unto the heads of the thousands of Israel, The LORD God of gods, the LORD
God of gods, he knoweth, and Israel he shall know; if it be in rebellion,
or if in transgression against the LORD, (save us not this day,) That
we have built us an altar(called Ed) to turn from following the LORD,
or if to offer thereon burnt offering or meat offering, or if to offer
peace offerings thereon, let the LORD himself require it; And
if we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying,
In time to come your children might speak unto our children,
saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel?וַיִּקְרְאוְּ בְּנֵי־רְאוְּבֵן וְּבְנֵי־גָד לַמִּזְבֵּחַ כִּי עֵד הוְּא בֵּינֹתֵינוְּ כִּי יְהוָה הָאֱלֹהִים Joshua 22:34
AKJV Bible: Joshua 22:34: And the children of Reuben, And the children of Gad
(and half of the tribe of Manasseh (Joshua 22:11)) called the altar (עד Ed);
for [Ed] shall be a witness between us that [יהוה האלהים=117] is [“GOD”].Numbers don’t convey ideas; but numbers can confirm ideas.
(Reuben=65 Gad=12 Manasseh=80÷2=40) [65+12+40=117].Joshua=74 (Jesus Name) 22:34: And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad
(and half of the tribe of Manasseh (Joshua 22:11)) called the altar “עד”=74:
for “Ed” shall be a “witness” between us that [“YHVH is GOD”=117].Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNovember 24, 2010 at 11:53 pm#226355942767ParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 24 2010,15:05) Quote (942767 @ Nov. 24 2010,14:31) Hi Ed: Jesus is our example, and so, the question is, did Jesus use the number system that you use to teach about God?
I love you and want God's very best for you and your family.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty,God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)Thanks for asking this question! (Matt.7:7 / 2Tm.2:13 / Prob.25:2)
I know this information is in your blind spot, but you are beginning to see there is really
something to all this. I know, because I would have not gone public unless I could prove it.The Gematria I will use has a direct correlation to the AKJV Bible; cherry picked
yes, but harder to debunk, because I did NOT orchestrate its use. This pattern
has occurred over large time scales; diminishing the look of mans manipulation.Each point can be argued as merely random, but as the evidence is clearly seen as a whole,
taken together however “the facts” cannot be argued as merely random and irrelevant.Language should always supersede numbers when it comes to tying ideas together.
Numbers, however, can and should be used as a second witness though; using them
to help illustrate concepts of GOD more fully. Previously overlooked facts (for example
in a criminal case) can lead to much different conclusions.In a civil case who speaks first plays a larger role than the defense.
However in a criminal case, he who speaks first changes NO Facts pertinent to the case.
I believe this is the case with Gematria. Lies and deceptions are perpetuated when evidences
that substantiate the truth are ignored, or left un-investigated; leaving only distractions away from the truth.
Some people string combinations that match together using English Gematria, yet do not edify
(or build up) anybody; this offers little or no prove to the skeptic. Many words can be cherry picked
and strung together, the more words to choose from; the more it can be manipulated.
This type of attitude can be “a distraction”, often desensitizing people from the real proof
English Gematria offers. Single words therefore having the same total do have the most impact
and are harder to debunk.So therefore, “Jesus, “gospel”, “cross” and “messiah” all totaling 74 are all on topic.
This arrangement, in and of itself, can also be argued as cherry picked in order to debunk.Yet as more and more critical things are shown to line up, a pattern of truth
does begin to emerge that becomes harder and harder for the skeptic to debunk.Here's another sequence. “YHVH” (GOD’s Holy Name in English),
“Divine”, “Deity”, and “The Bible” are all on a topic as well, totaling 63.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed:Do as God directs you, of course, but as for me, I have found that the best way to show that God is a reality to anyone is through the life that I live in obedience to His Word.
God is a Spirit of Love.
Love in Christ,
MartyDecember 5, 2010 at 2:31 am#227627mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 24 2010,15:05) The Gematria I will use has a direct correlation to the AKJV Bible;
Hi Ed,Is this the same KJV that replaces God's divine name with “LORD” almost 100% of the time?
The same KJV that renders “child” instead of “servant” in reference to Jesus in Acts 4 times because they didn't want their “God #2” to be a “servant” of their “God #1”?
Hmmmmm………but this is the translation that “works best” with your numbers? If the numbers meant anything at all, they would consistently work with any translation, right?
peace and love,
mikeDecember 5, 2010 at 4:37 am#227641Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 05 2010,12:31) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 24 2010,15:05) The Gematria I will use has a direct correlation to the AKJV Bible;
Hi Ed,Is this the same KJV that replaces God's divine name with “LORD” almost 100% of the time?
The same KJV that renders “child” instead of “servant” in reference to Jesus in Acts 4 times because they didn't want their “God #2” to be a “servant” of their “God #1”?
Hmmmmm………but this is the translation that “works best” with your numbers? If the numbers meant anything at all, they would consistently work with any translation, right?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,“YHVH”(63) = “The Bible”(63)
“The Key”(74) = “AKJV Bible”(74)No; the question is: why did YHVH use the “AKJV Bible” to encode his Signature into? (Psalm 12:6-7)
God has pointed the way to this phenomenon prior by using both the Greek and Hebrew languages.God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)…………………..(Psalm 68:4)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)…………………(Exodus 6:3)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)……………….(Isaiah 12:2)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)…………….(Isaiah 26:4)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)…………..(Psalm 83:18)There are exactly five variants for God in The Hebrew Masoretic texts…
1) Strong’s 426: אלה (ĔL-äh) elah: corresponding to 433; God:-God, god.
2) Strong’s 433: אלוה (ĔL-ō-äh) eloah: from 410; a deity or The Deity:-God, god. See 430
3) Strong’s 6697: צור (tsû-är) tsoor: a rock; a refuge(house); X(times) mighty God, sharp, X stone, X strength.
4) Strong’s 430: אלהים (ĔL-ō-Hêêm) elohiym: plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense;
but specifically used in the plural of the supreme God; angels, X exceedingly; God, X great, judges, X mighty.
5) Strong’s 410: אל (ĔL) ale: mighty; strength; The Almighty (also used of any deity):- God, X goodly, X great; power.There are EXACTLY five words for “God” the Greek…
1) θεος …is the nominative singular
2) θεον …is the accusative singular
3) θεου …is the genitive singular
4) θεε ..…is the vocative singular
5) θεω .…is the dative singularThere are exactly five times God's name (JEHOVAH / JAH) is used in singular form in the “AKJV Bible”(74)…
1) JEHOVAH is My Name “YHVH”=63 (Exodus 6:3)
2) JEHOVAH is The Most High “GOD The Father”=117 (Psalm 83:18)
3) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 is [The Savior=117] in “Jesus”=74 (Isaiah 12:2)
4) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 is Everlasting strength in “Holy Spirit”=151 (Isaiah 26:4)
5) JAH The Name of יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ”=26 and “YÄ-hä-vā: “GOD”=26 (Psalm 68:4)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
PS> God's name is also used in three phrases.December 5, 2010 at 4:43 am#227643mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 05 2010,14:37) There are exactly five variants for God in The Hebrew Masoretic texts… 1) Strong’s 426: אלה (ĔL-äh) elah: corresponding to 433; God:-God, god.
2) Strong’s 433: אלוה (ĔL-ō-äh) eloah: from 410; a deity or The Deity:-God, god. See 430
3) Strong’s 6697: צור (tsû-är) tsoor: a rock; a refuge(house); X(times) mighty God, sharp, X stone, X strength.
4) Strong’s 430: אלהים (ĔL-ō-Hêêm) elohiym: plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense;
but specifically used in the plural of the supreme God; angels, X exceedingly; God, X great, judges, X mighty.
5) Strong’s 410: אל (ĔL) ale: mighty; strength; The Almighty (also used of any deity):- God, X goodly, X great; power.
Hi Ed,You list “Rock”, but neglect to list “Refuge”, “Creator”, “Savior”, “Strong Tower” and many more titles that God is given in the OT. Why do you stop at only 5?
peace and love,
mikeDecember 5, 2010 at 5:03 am#227644Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 05 2010,14:43) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 05 2010,14:37) There are exactly five variants for God in The Hebrew Masoretic texts… 1) Strong’s 426: אלה (ĔL-äh) elah: corresponding to 433; God:-God, god.
2) Strong’s 433: אלוה (ĔL-ō-äh) eloah: from 410; a deity or The Deity:-God, god. See 430
3) Strong’s 6697: צור (tsû-är) tsoor: a rock; a refuge(house); X(times) mighty God, sharp, X stone, X strength.
4) Strong’s 430: אלהים (ĔL-ō-Hêêm) elohiym: plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense;
but specifically used in the plural of the supreme God; angels, X exceedingly; God, X great, judges, X mighty.
5) Strong’s 410: אל (ĔL) ale: mighty; strength; The Almighty (also used of any deity):- God, X goodly, X great; power.
Hi Ed,You list “Rock”, but neglect to list “Refuge”, “Creator”, “Savior”, “Strong Tower” and many more titles that God is given in the OT. Why do you stop at only 5?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,These are the words that translate to “God” in “English”(74) from
the Hebrew Masoretic texts; not the words ‘used’ to describe God?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 5, 2010 at 5:08 am#227645mikeboll64Blocked“ROCK” translates into “God” in English? Where do you find that?
mike
December 5, 2010 at 5:30 am#227646Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 05 2010,15:08) “ROCK” translates into “God” in English? Where do you find that? mike
Hi Mike,Habakkuk 1:12 Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die.
O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God,
thou hast established them for correction.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 6, 2010 at 1:48 am#227737mikeboll64BlockedHi Ed,
Just because the KJV renders the Hebrew word “rock” as “God” doesn't make that word MEAN “god”, right?
That would be like some translation rendering “refuge” as “God”. Even though the context could be implying that God is our refuge, that doesn't mean “refuge” now means “god” in Hebrew.
mike
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