Melchizedek: is it an office or a person

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  • #202459
    JustAskin
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    EDj,

    We have been through this – don't condemn me.

    I wrote both… also. I don't care what you say about it. To me “I AM” is a WONDERFUL name that embodies EVERYTHING in a “From Everlasting to Everlasting, and all Powerful,all knowledgeable being” – (“I AM : I have Been, I currently am, I will Always be: I AM)

    “I Will be” says … “At some point in the near future , or far future, I shall become”

    God does not change – from past Everlasting to future everlasting – What 'Will” He “be” : What will He “Become”? God does not change to “Become” anything – What Can God become that God is not already.

    But, Ok, “I will Be” could also say, “I WILL ALWAYS BE” but it then doesn't explicitly say “I have [ALWAYS] BEEN”. note, I added the “ALWAYS”.

    But… not making any claim, nor argument. Have I not previously agreed to say “I will be” …for your sake… why berate me for explaining?

    Now, Why are you quoting Mark 13;6 to me. What has that verse got to do with anything – please explain… I am at a loss here.

    #202463
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi JustAskin,

    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my (Christian)
    name, saying, I am; and shall deceive many.
    'i am' is Lucifer's title, the god of 'confusion'!

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #202466
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Edj,

    Ha Ha! I've heard you say that before… Please tell me where you got that from?

    Is there a specific Greek rendering of “I am he” different to
    And they said to him: “Are you the Christ?”
    and he replied “You rightly say, I am he”

    “many will come saying 'I am he'” – are you saying that 'Lucifer' will come announcing himself -as himself – that would be foolish of him, would it not – surely Satan is not that foolish?

    #202564
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi JustAskin,

    Did you even read the verse Mark 13:6 in my last Post?
    By what you've written here indicates you didn't read it!

    Vile means 'evil' and Lucifer is evil! Job 40:4 Behold, I am vile

    1Tm. 1:15 This is a faithful saying (John 1:12), and worthy of all acceptation,
    that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    It seems you don't accept what 1Tm.1:15 is saying do you?
    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #202565
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    One verse is proof of nothing.
    But we know you have finished learning and demand the right to teach.

    #202572
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2010,09:54)
    Hi Everybody,

    Jasher 16:11-12 And Adonizedek king of Jerusalem, the same was Shem,
    went out with his men to meet Abram and his people, with bread and wine,
    and they remained together in the valley of Melech. And Adonizedek blessed
    Abram, and Abram gave him a tenth from all that he had brought from the spoil
    of his enemies, for Adonizedek was a priest before God. (Compare Gen.14:18-20)

    Gen.14:18-20 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
    and he was the priest of the most high God. And he blessed him, and said,
    Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
    And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies
    into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. (Compare Jasher 16:11-12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Everybody,

    Guys lets try to keep this thread on topic; OK?

    The Book of Jasher suggests Melchizedek was Shem.
    And Pastor Charles Jennings suggests Melchizedek was a King/Priest office. (See first Post)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #234039
    Ed J
    Participant

    Bump for Adam

    #234044
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Thanks Ed for this new thread for me.

    #234051
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Adam,

    Did you watch the videos from the “Truth in History” guy?
    The link is on the first Post. It would seem your source,
    my source, and you and me are all on the same page.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #234100
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2010,11:45)
    Hi JustAskin,

    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my (Christian)
    name, saying, I am; and shall deceive many.
    'i am' is Lucifer's title, the god of 'confusion'!

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    We all know you are beyond help, but that is of your own choosing; you don't want to be helped.

    Georg

    #234129
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Jan. 22 2011,16:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2010,11:45)
    Hi JustAskin,

    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my (Christian)
    name, saying, I am; and shall deceive many.
    'i am' is Lucifer's title, the god of 'confusion'!

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    We all know you are beyond help, but that is of your own choosing; you don't want to be helped.

    Georg


    :D :D :D

    #291598
    Ed J
    Participant

    Bump for Journey42

    #291613
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Revelation 12 gives us several terms for the evil one

    ” the great dragon
    the serpent of old
    the devil
    Satan who deceives the whole world
    the accuser of the brethren”

    LUCIFER is not among them.
    Any witnesses?

    #291634
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick, you got your threads mixed up?

    Melchizedek: is it an “office” or a “person”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291638
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    A man [heb 7.4],
    a king [gen 14,heb7.1],
    a priest[gen 14, ps 110.4, heb5 f].

    #291649
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Melchizedek means King of Righteousness. (Heb.7:2)
    [מלך] Mĕh-lĕk means King and [צדיק] tzĕdĕk means righteous.

    “He shall pass over to his strong hold for fear, and his princes shall be afraid
    of the ensign, saith the LORD, whose fire is in Zion, and his furnace in Jerusalem. Behold,
    (Jesus) a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.” (Isa 31:9-32:1)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291650
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Many of the biblical names are symbolic in meaning.

    #291660
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,08:30)
    Hi ED,
    Many of the biblical names are symbolic in meaning.


    Hi Nick, so what do you say to the question of the thread?

       Melchizedek: is it an “office” or a “person”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291662
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    A man is a person in our lingo

    #291737
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,09:30)
    Hi Ed,
    A man is a person in our lingo


    Hi Nick,

    Yes, but I believe Melchizedek was an “office” rather than a specific individual.
    Being a “King Priest”, which started with Adam, passed down to Seth, to
    Enoch, to “Shem”, to David, and now permanently to Christ, Jesus!

    The “book of Jasher” identifies Melchizedek as “Shem” (Joshua 10:13 and 2Samuel 1:18)

                                             Jesus Pedigree

    Priest: Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    King: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    Son of God: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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