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Quote (karmarie @ May 29 2010,21:59) Its so strange, sometimes I post here, without thinking (just reading you know) then I think 'why did I do that'? I know either TT will say something snarly back or WJ will just ignore me, so whats the point? I have to learn not to do that. Seriously.
Hi Karmarie,Roo and WJ are no more children of God than you are. Why do you let them carry so much weight with you? They are constantly proven wrong by scripture, so anything Roo snarls at you, I would look up to see if he actually knows what he's talking about.
Sometimes he does.
As Nick's signature says, “Test all things.”And never let anyone make you think you are not as welcome here as anyone else. Put your two cents in. What's the worst that can happen? You find out you were wrong and learn something? That's not so bad.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (WorshippingJesus @ May 30 2010,03:40) Hi All The Bible clearly says there is “One Spirit” not two, three or four! 1 Cor 12:13 – Eph 2:18 – Eph 4:4.
Hi WJ,I'm not as up on the “spirits” as you and JA.
But what of the seven spirits in Rev? What of the spirit of man? How can you say there is only one spirit?
peace and love,
mikeQuote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 30 2010,08:01) JA, Do you honor the Son “just as” you honor the Father? Answer plainly PLEASE! Jesus said that if you don't honor Him “just as” you honor the Father then you do not honor the Father Himself.
Answer plainly.
Kangaroo Jack
Hey Roo,I'm still waiting for your answer. Is the Father your ONLY God?
peace and love,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2010,09:52) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 30 2010,03:40) Hi All The Bible clearly says there is “One Spirit” not two, three or four! 1 Cor 12:13 – Eph 2:18 – Eph 4:4.
Hi WJ,I'm not as up on the “spirits” as you and JA.
But what of the seven spirits in Rev? What of the spirit of man? How can you say there is only one spirit?
peace and love,
mike
Hi MB,
God is Spirit and God is one.
He is the Father of lights and the Father of spirits [Heb12].
All life originates in Him and His angelic spirits are before His throne.[ Heb1, Rev4,]Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2010,08:48) Btw Paul, Jesus says THE FATHER is the only true god. Scripture says He is the God of gods. Jesus call Him “my God”. Therefore, Jesus is NOT the only true God, but one of the other gods that THE FATHER is the God of.
So answer your own question. Is Jesus, although not being the only true God, still a true god? If so, then so is Satan, for he also is one of the gods mentioned in scripture that is not the only true God.
peace and love,
mike
Hello Michael.
I've answered that question in this thread:https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….79;st=0
Despite what you might think of yourself you haven't brought many (if any) new objections to the debate. Your points have already been raised (and answered) many times over in this forum.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2010,08:48) So answer your own question. Is Jesus, although not being the only true God, still a true god? If so, then so is Satan, for he also is one of the gods mentioned in scripture that is not the only true God.
…so my answer is given that YHWH is a triune God, Yeshua is the only true God. Satan, by contrast, is a false god.What is your snswer Mike?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2010,09:58) Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 30 2010,08:01) JA, Do you honor the Son “just as” you honor the Father? Answer plainly PLEASE! Jesus said that if you don't honor Him “just as” you honor the Father then you do not honor the Father Himself.
Answer plainly.
Kangaroo Jack
Hey Roo,I'm still waiting for your answer. Is the Father your ONLY God?
peace and love,
mike
If you have to equivocate over that question you need to reevaluate your theology.Quote (karmarie @ May 29 2010,21:59) Its so strange, sometimes I post here, without thinking (just reading you know) then I think 'why did I do that'? I know either TT will say something snarly back or WJ will just ignore me, so whats the point? I have to learn not to do that. Seriously.
Hi Karmarie,
The two fold answer is defending scriptural doctrines will inevitably lead to conflict and men love conflict. Look at Paul (the NT writer), his tradition was to head straight to the nearest synagogue and “reason” (read debate) with the local Jews. Yeshua's conflicts with the pharisees and saducees were highly acrimoneous. Woman are less comfortable with this approach but men are made for it.The other part of this is often there is a lot of baiting preceeding a “snarly” response. Some here are experts in this field.
Usually if you address a post specifically to someone it will not be ignored.
Blessings
Hi Is 1.18,
Jesus has a God.
He spoke of him as the one true God.
But to you is his God not yours and the one true God?Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 30 2010,12:01) Hello Michael.
I've answered that question in this thread:https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….79;st=0
Despite what you might think of yourself you haven't brought many (if any) new objections to the debate. Your points have already been raised (and answered) many times over in this forum.
Hi Paul,Really? A thread from 2007? I skimmed your first response to t8, and immediately my mind was thinking of easy responses. It's an easy question to answer, so go ahead.
Is Jesus a true God although not being “the only true God”?
What I think of myself? What does that mean? I'm here to find scriptural truth and once found, share it.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,10:20) Hi MB,
God is Spirit and God is one.
He is the Father of lights and the Father of spirits [Heb12].
All life originates in Him and His angelic spirits are before His throne.[ Heb1, Rev4,]
Hi NickThanks. So only one Spirit in existence, or many? I know that everything, spirit or not originates with God. Mankind does, but we are many, not just one. How about spirits? Are they God, or are they individuals who have their own mind and will to do as they please?
peace and love,
mikeHi MB,
God is the Father of spirits, a term applied to angels [Heb1]and to what gives life to all creatures[ecc 3,12].
But He has His own Spirit which is only given at times and to those He has chosen.[Jl2]
Christ Jesus was so blessed and now is that source for us.[Jn3, Jn7, 1Jn5]Oops, I usually just go down the line answering posts in order. I didn't see that you split my post into two. Disregard my last post.
You said:
Quote …so my answer is given that YHWH is a triune God, Yeshua is the only true God. Satan, by contrast, is a false god. And you have scriptures that you infer this from. But is there any scripture that straight out says, “YHWH is three”? Because there are a few that say, “YHWH is One”.
And tell me how Satan is a false god. Does he not exist? Is he not powerful? Does he not influence people's lives? Like I said to WJ (?), Yoda is a true warrior. Darth Vader fights for the dark side. Does that make him a false warrior?
Of course Jesus is a true god. But he is not God Almighty – he is the Almighty's Son.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,13:53) Hi MB,
God is the Father of spirits, a term applied to angels [Heb1]and to what gives life to all creatures[ecc 3,12].
But He has His own Spirit which is only given at times and to those He has chosen.[Jl2]
Christ Jesus was so blessed and now is that source for us.[Jn3, Jn7, 1Jn5]
Hi Nick,Agreed on most. But is Jesus now that Spirit? Or is he an individual being that has been given God's Spirit without measure and granted by God to dish it out to us as he wills?
peace and love,
mikeHi MB,
Jesus is only alive in the Spirit of His God.
He and his God can now be known in the communion of that Spirit.[2Cor13.14]Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 30 2010,12:27) Hey Roo, I'm still waiting for your answer. Is the Father your ONLY God?
peace and love,
mikeIs 1:18 said:
Quote If you have to equivocate over that question you need to reevaluate your theology. I'm not sure I understand the big words. But how about it, Paul? Is the Father your ONLY God?
peace and love,
mikeQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,14:08) Hi MB,
Jesus is only alive in the Spirit of His God.
He and his God can now be known in the communion of that Spirit.[2Cor13.14]
Hi Nick,I one sense, anything anywhere that is alive is only alive because of God's life giving spirit. But to say that Jesus is only alive in God's Spirit is to say that same thing about every living thing, IMO.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2010,13:40) Is Jesus a true God although not being “the only true God”?
Did I write this? Where?Mike are you going to answer questions too or just pose them?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2010,14:09) I'm not sure I understand the big words.
http://dictionary.reference.com/Quote But how about it, Paul? Is the Father your ONLY God?
My only God is YHWH.Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2010,13:57) And you have scriptures that you infer this from. But is there any scripture that straight out says, “YHWH is three”? Because there are a few that say, “YHWH is One”.
Answered.Quote And tell me how Satan is a false god. Does he not exist? Is he not powerful? Does he not influence people's lives?
No. Satan is a “false” god beause he is part of creation and not the Creator. This is the Bible's criteria for true deity, not mine.Jeremiah 10:10-12
But the LORD is the true God; He is the living God and the everlasting King At His wrath the earth quakes, And the nations cannot endure His indignation. 11Thus you shall say to them, “The gods that did not make the heavens and the earth will perish from the earth and from under the heavens.” 12It is He who made the earth by His power, Who established the world by His wisdom; And by His understanding He has stretched out the heavens.Quote Like I said to WJ (?), Yoda is a true warrior. Darth Vader fights for the dark side. Does that make him a false warrior?
False dichotomy. Use a biblical analogy.Quote Of course Jesus is a true god. But he is not God Almighty – he is the Almighty's Son.
Her is a Son. He is also Almighty God.
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