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- January 5, 2009 at 2:39 am#116662NickHassanParticipant
GB,
Jesus is lord of all, under GodActs 2:36
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.Acts 10:36
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)January 5, 2009 at 5:15 am#116686GeneBalthropParticipantNick true ……….He is lord of all except the FATHER. The FATHER is truly LORD OF LORD AND KING OF KINGS> All things are subject to The Father including Jesus ALSO.
peace and love to you and yours……………….gene
January 5, 2009 at 6:54 am#116692NickHassanParticipantGB,
Jesus too is Lord of Lords and King of Kings.
Hopefully you know him as your Lord and king.January 5, 2009 at 5:02 pm#116706GeneBalthropParticipantNick………correct he is, but he has ONE OVER HIM ALSO. Which one is your true GOD. Is it Jesus or the FATHER. It seems you push out the FATHER most of the time as if He has no part of anything. Something Jesus never did, in fact just the opposite Jesus alway glorified the Father, i think if we say we are truly following Jesus, we should be doing the same. Lets try harder to not leave the FATHER out of His work NICK.
peace and love…………………gene
January 5, 2009 at 6:17 pm#116718NickHassanParticipantGB,
You cannot own a relationship with the Gardener outside of the vine.January 6, 2009 at 6:01 pm#116814GeneBalthropParticipantNick……..O really, i thought the Gardner is the one who Grafts you into the vine, at least that the way i have seen my vineyards work. Not only with vines but also fruit trees also. We are GRAFTED into Vine by GOD and no one who GOD Grafts in is rejected by the vine. The vine does not sustain it self, it is the Gardner who sustains it. Priorities Nick , yours seem backwards.
love and peace to all…………………….gene
January 6, 2009 at 6:08 pm#116815NickHassanParticipantGB,
We are grafted into the olive tree of Israel and not the vine of Christ.The Gardener prunes away those branches that do not allow the lifegiving sap of the Spirit of Christ to flow through them and produce the fruit of the Spirit.
January 6, 2009 at 8:01 pm#116828NickHassanParticipantGB,
Jn15
1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.2Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
7If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
8Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
9As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
10If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
11These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
January 6, 2009 at 10:33 pm#116843NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jesus is Lord
1 John 3:23
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.February 2, 2009 at 2:12 am#119986NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jesus is Lord.
Let's not forget itFebruary 2, 2009 at 3:46 am#119989GeneBalthropParticipantNick…..I am not disagreeing with you , Jesus is Lord (to the glory of the FATHER) Lets not leave the FATHER out of this Picture brother. Thats all i am saying. WE can not worship Jesus as the FATHER or His replacement either. That is what the world Churches do they have replaced the FATHER with Jesus. We must be careful not to do the same. Or when He returns we will be rejected and recieve the same wrath they are going to recieve. IMO
love and peace t you and yours…………………….gene
February 9, 2009 at 3:12 am#120874NickHassanParticipantHi,
The Spirit would have us call Jesus our Lord1 Corinthians 12:3
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.He will receive us if he is.
Acts 7:59
And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.Then again
Luke 6:46
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?February 9, 2009 at 3:19 am#120876NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jesus calls his followers his children.
Mark 10:24
And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!John 13:33
Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.John 21:5
Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.February 9, 2009 at 3:20 am#120877GeneBalthropParticipantNick……….indeed Jesus is Lord to the GLORY of GOD, lets not forget that, and we should do what he says and if we believe he is doing God the FATHERS WILL we will. But you present Jesus as doing (HIS) will over us . And there in is your error.IMO
peace……………….gene
February 12, 2009 at 10:09 pm#121373NickHassanParticipantHi,
Let the Spirit live and teach in you such that you can say
” Jesus is Lord”July 21, 2009 at 2:59 am#138282NickHassanParticipantHi ,
WJ and TT have elegantly showed us that making Jesus your god takes away his God appointed role of Lord.Not surprising when they have ignored his teachings about this and other matters he spoke on ignoring his given authority.
July 21, 2009 at 4:16 am#138284NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
If you choose to ignore Paul and 1 Cor8 and decide that Jesus is not your lord that is surely open rebellion?July 21, 2009 at 5:32 pm#138349GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 13 2009,09:09) Hi,
Let the Spirit live and teach in you such that you can say
” Jesus is Lord”
Nick……..I total believe Jesus is Lord, TO THE GLORY OF GOD, lets not leave that part out brother.peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
July 21, 2009 at 5:40 pm#138351Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,00:16) Hi WJ,
If you choose to ignore Paul and 1 Cor8 and decide that Jesus is not your lord that is surely open rebellion?
NHThis is such a lie!
When have we ever said Jesus is not Lord?
The Father is God, but are you saying that I cannot call the Father Lord?
Seriously, you are totally lieing and should be repremanded for bearing false witness.
WJ
July 21, 2009 at 5:42 pm#138352Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2009,22:59) Hi ,
WJ and TT have elegantly showed us that making Jesus your god takes away his God appointed role of Lord.Not surprising when they have ignored his teachings about this and other matters he spoke on ignoring his given authority.
Hi NHThen the Fathers role of Lord is taken away because you claim he is your God!
Foolishness!
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