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- October 17, 2011 at 11:23 pm#260968terrariccaParticipant
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 18 2011,17:03) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2011,09:59) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 18 2011,16:56) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2011,09:53) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 18 2011,15:55) Hi PR, Could you please point out where you did actually answered it,
because I certainly did not see any CLEAR AND CONCISE answer?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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edjhere it is my answer ;edj
if you see anything in those scriptures that a man does as Christian do, then he is a Christian,
JN 8:42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me.
JN 14:15 “ If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.JN 14:24 “He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me.
JN 21:15 So when they had finished breakfast, Jesus *said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these?” He *said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He *said to him, “Tend My lambs.”
JN 21:16 He *said to him again a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” He *said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He *said to him, “ Shepherd My sheep.”
JN 21:17 He *said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus *said to him, “ Tend My sheep.Pierre
why should I replace Christ words like you do
my answer is the same that Christ gives read it
Pierre
Hi PR,Could you please "highlight" the part to which you refer is a CLEAR AND CONCISE answer to my question?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjare you blind or really do not understand ??
any or all of those scriptures' that is the answer, got it ??
Pierre
Hi Pierre,So those verses do point to Catholics being Christians then; right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjwhat type of a question is that ??
answer this this ;is the catholic church do and practice all what Christ is commanded yes or no
are you doing it ;yes or NO
Pierre
October 18, 2011 at 12:01 am#260972mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 17 2011,16:51) Honest answers don't strengthen incorrect positions.
And THAT, my friend, is the bottom line of this whole thread. And the moral of the story is: ALWAYS give HONEST and DIRECT answers.October 18, 2011 at 12:04 am#260973mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 17 2011,16:51) Hi Mike, Do you believe the "Glory" spoken of in verse 17 is Jesus' too, rather that JEHOVAH's?
Ed, it is verse 18, and YES, it speaks of Jesus' glory. It also speaks of our own glory becoming greater as we become transformed into Jesus' image. (Compare Phil 3:20-21)October 18, 2011 at 12:08 am#260974mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 17 2011,15:23) Do you believe Catholics are Christians, yes or no? Could you please point out where you did actually answered it,
because I certainly did not see any CLEAR AND CONCISE answer?
I just find it HILARIOUS that you are using a "YES or NO" question and complaining about not getting a CLEAR and CONSCISE answer on a thread that was designed to attack ME for these very same practices!October 18, 2011 at 12:18 am#260975mikeboll64BlockedBtw Ed,
What I gathered from Pierre's answer is that he who follows the teaching of Christ and does the will of their Father in heaven is a true Christian.
Do Catholics do this? Or do they worship THREE Gods that they confusingly try to combine into ONE God?
It's hard to generalize everyone in a certain religion. Take our discussion about the JWs, for example. Apparently, there are SOME JWs who have told you guys that they are the only ones to be saved. But you can't hold the JW organization responsible for members who spout what is NOT supported by the Organization at large.
With the Catholics, that scenario is reversed. It is the official stance and doctrine of the Organization at large that is in conflict with the scriptures. But we cannot judge the individual members of the Catholic Church as to whether or not they are "true Christians". God has already set in place a Judge who is way more worthy and just than any of us. Plus, he has the added benefit of being able to see what's inside a person.
mike
October 18, 2011 at 12:38 am#260979terrariccaParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2011,18:18) Btw Ed, What I gathered from Pierre's answer is that he who follows the teaching of Christ and does the will of their Father in heaven is a true Christian.
Do Catholics do this? Or do they worship THREE Gods that they confusingly try to combine into ONE God?
It's hard to generalize everyone in a certain religion. Take our discussion about the JWs, for example. Apparently, there are SOME JWs who have told you guys that they are the only ones to be saved. But you can't hold the JW organization responsible for members who spout what is NOT supported by the Organization at large.
With the Catholics, that scenario is reversed. It is the official stance and doctrine of the Organization at large that is in conflict with the scriptures. But we cannot judge the individual members of the Catholic Church as to whether or not they are "true Christians". God has already set in place a Judge who is way more worthy and just than any of us. Plus, he has the added benefit of being able to see what's inside a person.
mike
MikeI do not know why Edj can not figure that out ??
it is as you say
Pierre
October 18, 2011 at 4:18 am#260995Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2011,11:01) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 17 2011,16:51) Honest answers don't strengthen incorrect positions.
And THAT, my friend, is the bottom line of this whole thread. And the moral of the story is: ALWAYS give HONEST and DIRECT answers.
Hi Mike,Always give honest answers, yes; always give direct answers, no.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOctober 18, 2011 at 4:19 am#260996Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2011,11:08) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 17 2011,15:23) Do you believe Catholics are Christians, yes or no? Could you please point out where you did actually answered it,
because I certainly did not see any CLEAR AND CONCISE answer?
I just find it HILARIOUS that you are using a "YES or NO" question and complaining about not getting a CLEAR and CONSCISE answer on a thread that was designed to attack ME for these very same practices!
Hi Mike,I was only repeating the question that Pierre asked me to answer.
You do understand this was his question posed to me, yes or no?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOctober 18, 2011 at 4:53 am#260997terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 18 2011,22:19) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2011,11:08) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 17 2011,15:23) Do you believe Catholics are Christians, yes or no? Could you please point out where you did actually answered it,
because I certainly did not see any CLEAR AND CONCISE answer?
I just find it HILARIOUS that you are using a "YES or NO" question and complaining about not getting a CLEAR and CONSCISE answer on a thread that was designed to attack ME for these very same practices!
Hi Mike,I was only repeating the question that Pierre asked me to answer.
You do understand this was his question posed to me, yes or no?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjbut it was you that declared that all are Christian he who believes,
and that seams not to be true in scritures,this is the reason why i have ask you that question
October 21, 2011 at 12:54 am#261051Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2011,15:53) edj but it was you that declared that all are Christian he who believes,
and that seams not to be true in scritures,this is the reason why i have ask you that question
PIERRE,If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in thine heart
that God(YHVH) hath raised him(Jesus) from the dead, thou shall be saved. (Rom.10:9)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOctober 21, 2011 at 1:49 am#261053terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2011,18:54) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2011,15:53) edj but it was you that declared that all are Christian he who believes,
and that seams not to be true in scritures,this is the reason why i have ask you that question
PIERRE,If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in thine heart
that God(YHVH) hath raised him(Jesus) from the dead, thou shall be saved. (Rom.10:9)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjso any one that believe in the trinity is saved ??
any one that does not act in Christ pad is saved ??(like Muslims)
any one that speaks to us and says that he believes in God and Christ we have to believe him
is this scripture (Rom.10:9)all there is to the faith
October 21, 2011 at 1:59 am#261055Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2011,12:49) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2011,18:54) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2011,15:53) edj but it was you that declared that all are Christian he who believes,
and that seams not to be true in scritures,this is the reason why i have ask you that question
PIERRE,If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in thine heart
that God(YHVH) hath raised him(Jesus) from the dead, thou shall be saved. (Rom.10:9)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edj(1)so any one that believe in the trinity is saved ??
(2)any one that does not act in Christ pad is saved ??(like Muslims)
(3)any one that speaks to us and says that he believes in God and Christ we have to believe him
(4)is this scripture (Rom.10:9)all there is to the faith
Hi PR,1) Do you believe there is a prerequisite against it?
2) Muslims don't believe the "Gospel".
3) Not if they are lying.
4) Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. (Acts 16:31)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOctober 21, 2011 at 2:49 am#261057terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2011,19:59) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2011,12:49) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2011,18:54) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2011,15:53) edj but it was you that declared that all are Christian he who believes,
and that seams not to be true in scritures,this is the reason why i have ask you that question
PIERRE,If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in thine heart
that God(YHVH) hath raised him(Jesus) from the dead, thou shall be saved. (Rom.10:9)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edj(1)so any one that believe in the trinity is saved ??
(2)any one that does not act in Christ pad is saved ??(like Muslims)
(3)any one that speaks to us and says that he believes in God and Christ we have to believe him
(4)is this scripture (Rom.10:9)all there is to the faith
Hi PR,1) Do you believe there is a prerequisite against it?
2) Muslims don't believe the "Gospel".
3) Not if they are lying.
4) Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. (Acts 16:31)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou never answer question ,only in a slime way
if you keep this up I will show you that I am good a it as well.
(4)is this scripture (Rom.10:9)all there is to the faith ???YES or NO
4) Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. (Acts 16:31)
4) Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. (Acts 16:31)
October 21, 2011 at 3:01 am#261058Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2011,13:49) edj you never answer question ,only in a slime way
PIERRE,Do you consider giving Scriptural references 'a slime response'?
October 21, 2011 at 3:11 am#261059Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2011,13:49)
if you keep this up I will show you that I am good a it as well.
Hi Pierre,Answer in any way you so choose.
Faith(G4102): faith, belief, trust, confidence; fidelity, faithfulness.
Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?God bless
Ed J (Gal 3:2-3)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOctober 21, 2011 at 3:25 am#261060terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2011,21:01) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2011,13:49) edj you never answer question ,only in a slime way
PIERRE,Do you consider giving Scriptural references 'a slime response'?
edjyour scripture did not answer the question ,but you new that ,right
October 21, 2011 at 3:29 am#261061terrariccaParticipantedj
Quote Faith(G4102): faith, belief, trust, confidence; fidelity, faithfulness.
Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?right ,and we can add ,hope,to become holy,righteousness ,and a person as to understand the reasons for it if not then his faith is useless ,right ?
October 21, 2011 at 3:43 am#261063Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2011,12:57) To All, Questions are sometimes worded very vaguely (knowingly or unknowingly),
with the idea that once agreed upon will later be used for something specific.
If such is the case, questions must reflect the specificity of their intended use.Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2011,13:49) is this scripture (Rom.10:9)all there is to the faith ???YES or NO
Hi PR,This question is not very specific; what specifically do you want to know?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOctober 21, 2011 at 4:32 am#261067terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2011,21:43) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2011,12:57) To All, Questions are sometimes worded very vaguely (knowingly or unknowingly),
with the idea that once agreed upon will later be used for something specific.
If such is the case, questions must reflect the specificity of their intended use.Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2011,13:49) is this scripture (Rom.10:9)all there is to the faith ???YES or NO
Hi PR,This question is not very specific; what specifically do you want to know?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjlook your answer to my question was one verse in scriptures ,
now I ask to answer yes or no what is simple enough that a child can answered this ,but NO edj wants more specifics ,go figure,
do you understand yourself because I do not.
you ask me if I believe if you are a true Christian right, to tell the truth I do not know,
read my quotes to you again ,maybe you will see whats wrong with your answers,
I say this not to offend you but you make things difficult for the least.
October 21, 2011 at 4:53 am#261069Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Oct. 21 2011,15:32) you ask me if I believe if you are a true Christian right, to tell the truth I do not know,
Hi PR,Then you do not have the gift of discerning of spirits. (see 1Cor.12:10)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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