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Pierre,
I will start clarifying my point by demonstrating that the main difference between the old and the new covenant is that the new covenant has the Holy Spirit as both its gift and the counselor of those who enter it. This is not true of the old since the Spirit of God was not sent in its roll of Counselor to anyone but Jesus until his death, resurrection, and ascension. This is why scripture states:
John 16:7(NIV) reads:
Quote But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
We also know that Paul wrote to the believers in Galatia the command “live by the spirit”, Galatians 5:16; a command that is not found in the Law of Moses. It is not found there because the Spirit was not given to them in its aspect of the Counselor. Instead they had to rely on their own effort to do as God instructed them.
In both cases though the righteous live by faith and that faith leads to actions of obedience to God. Under the Old covenant each year a righteous man would make a sacrifice for his sins while under the New Jesus sacrificed himself one time so that sins a person commits before they become completely mature are forgiven. Under the law one may have changed but they did not become more Christ like because the Spirit that writes God’s commands in their hearts and minds had not been given yet.
Scripture also tells us that:
Galatians 5:13-18(NIV) reads:
Quote You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
So we know that when you live by the spirit you keep the law of love your neighbor as yourself and thus the Spirit is also the spirit of God’s love that we can choose to walk according to. Those who choose to do so are not under the law because they are not lawbreakers just as it is written.
1 Timothy 1:9-10(NIV) reads:
Quote We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
We also know that those who live by their human nature, instead of the Spirit, do what is contrary to the sound doctrine of the Messiah for their deeds testify to that fact.
Galatians 5:19-21(NIV) reads:
Quote The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
I hope this made what I wrote previously more understandable.
Hi Kerwin,
Excellent Post brother!
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2010,01:14) Pierre, I will start clarifying my point by demonstrating that the main difference between the old and the new covenant is that the new covenant has the Holy Spirit as both its gift and the counselor of those who enter it. This is not true of the old since the Spirit of God was not sent in its roll of Counselor to anyone but Jesus until his death, resurrection, and ascension. This is why scripture states:
John 16:7(NIV) reads:
Quote But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
We also know that Paul wrote to the believers in Galatia the command “live by the spirit”, Galatians 5:16; a command that is not found in the Law of Moses. It is not found there because the Spirit was not given to them in its aspect of the Counselor. Instead they had to rely on their own effort to do as God instructed them.
In both cases though the righteous live by faith and that faith leads to actions of obedience to God. Under the Old covenant each year a righteous man would make a sacrifice for his sins while under the New Jesus sacrificed himself one time so that sins a person commits before they become completely mature are forgiven. Under the law one may have changed but they did not become more Christ like because the Spirit that writes God’s commands in their hearts and minds had not been given yet.
Scripture also tells us that:
Galatians 5:13-18(NIV) reads:
Quote You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
So we know that when you live by the spirit you keep the law of love your neighbor as yourself and thus the Spirit is also the spirit of God’s love that we can choose to walk according to. Those who choose to do so are not under the law because they are not lawbreakers just as it is written.
1 Timothy 1:9-10(NIV) reads:
Quote We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
We also know that those who live by their human nature, instead of the Spirit, do what is contrary to the sound doctrine of the Messiah for their deeds testify to that fact.
Galatians 5:19-21(NIV) reads:
Quote The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
I hope this made what I wrote previously more understandable.
Kerwinso the only difference between the old covenant and the new
is that the first call of sheep from the first pen was wen Jesus came,and after Christ dead with Cornelius the second pen of sheep were called ,
this would exclude all others ,right ,yes
because all others only comes back in the second resurrection,right ,? yes
so the old covenant was to bring the sheep first pen to God,trough Christ and so inherited to be sons of God ,right? yes.
and with the second call second pen of sheep right ??,yes the gentiles,
so to me ,the holy spirit was always there since the beginning of creation,but not in the abundance of what it was wen Jesus came,
as fore the holy spirit it is the same as the counselor ,
it seems to me you do not understand the reason why Jesus send the counselor,do you
to living by the spirit is a condition to able us to understand God who is spirit,are perfection is to advance in spirit that we are like Christ ,
what would be impossible if we stay carnal,don't you think,??Pierre
Pierre,
Even under the Old Testament Gentiles, called Aliens, Strangers in the Law of Moses, were considered people of God. They were also allowed to become citizen of the twelve tribes by adoption. Jonah for instance went and prophesized to the Nineveh, a Gentile city, and that city repented. Other prophets also called on Gentile nations to repent.
The children of Israel have an agreement with God that they would obey him and that he would be their God disciplining them when needed and rewarding them when appropriate. That agreement is the law and has no end date as it is eternal. The Gentiles had not such agreement though God still shows them love.
As Jesus declared he must go away for the Spirit to come in the form of a councilor it follows that no time prior to his going away can the Spirit come in that role. Instead the Spirit came in the role of prophet and calling the people to do what is right in the eyes of God. It is the same Spirit but the task God gave it was different. God also gave it other tasks to perform such as creating.
The example of the sheep pen was fulfilled when the new covenant was first preached in the lands of the Jews and then spread to the Gentiles and Gentile lands. This is according to what was prophesized about the Word of God going out from Jerusalem. Even though his students seemed reluctant at first to spread the message to Gentiles, Jesus did at times do miracles involving them. In one case he healed the servant of a Gentile military officer who had bought a synagogue for the Jews. During that miracle he commented the man for his faith, Luke 7:1-10.
Jeremiah 31:31-34 is a prophecy of why Jesus sent the Spirit of Holiness and it sums up what I have been striving to say as well.
It is only through the power of God that we can overcome our carnal nature and live by the spirit thus in time becoming completely mature in Christ and fully at peace with God. That seems to be your final point in the last post and if so I agree with you.
Hi Kerwin,
The unity of “Israel” and “Christians” represents the unity of the spirit with our flesh!
The unity of the spirit with our flesh is: “THE NEW MAN”! (Eph.2:15 / Eph.4:23 / Col.3:10)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgTo all: We know that God is spirit and God is love. Therefore we know that God exudes peace, love, joy, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance against which there is no law.Gal5:22
Love is the way of spirit truth. The new covenant is substantiated by love. Love is what you are. You don't “do” meekness your are meek, you don't “do” longsuffering you are longsuffering, you don't “do” faith in God you have faith in God. You don't “do” joy, you have joy in Christ, you don't “do” peace you have peace.
God has created a new man through the words he gave to Jesus. Any man who partakes of the new spirit words of God becomes one with that spirit. This is the new born again man, born of the spirit of God. Each individual creation of God is self-contained in a body. Each man has the wholeness of God and the perfection of God within themselves. Even if those around them do not accept. T\Each has the Kingdom within, the church within, the temple within, and they are cleansed, purified, unblemished, worthy, sinless perfection from God. One who believes this truth is ONE with God/Jesus/Spirit! To the degree one believes God has done this through Jesus is the degree of love and truth he contains within the understanding.
There are no commandments or laws or obedience unto God in the New Covenant.God does not tell you how to life, God offers a way to live with him. Love is, love does not command anything. Love offers at no cost! Love gives freely. Love has no bonds or chains or restrictions, laws, rules etc.! We have choices to make. If we choose the love of God in our hearts, through the words of Jesus, with thanksgiving for total salvation from former sin & death, how could we sin?
One that loves cannot murder! One that loves cannot hate their brother! One that loves can't hurt, hate, envy or do any heinous act against a brother. Love is the controlling factor. From love comes peace, joy, etc.! Love/God has given himself to us if we will accept! If we continue to believe we are imperfect, evil, sick, unworthy, sinners then we can have no part in God. Choose life, TK
Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 29 2010,21:13) To all: There are no commandments or laws or obedience unto God in the New Covenant.
TK
Hi Tim,What kind of 'blasphemy' are you presenting here; Tim?
1John 5:2-3 By this we know that we love the children of God,
when we love God, and keep his commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his ommandments:
and his commandments are not grievous.Rev.3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich;
and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness
do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEGJ………..”ALL THE LAW IS “FULFILLED” IN (ONE) WORD you shall love you neighbor as yourself”. If the love of God is in your Heart you are not a doer of the law by (OBEDIENCE) Through the (Works) of Law (forced compliance) but by a New CREATION of GOD, you have become the righteousness of the law , because God has written it (IN) your Hearts by the love of GOD being shed around in our hearts That was Tims point i believe.
peace and love………………………………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 29 2010,23:20) EGJ………..”ALL THE LAW IS “FULFILLED” IN (ONE) WORD you shall love you neighbor as yourself”. If the love of God is in your Heart you are not a doer of the law by (OBEDIENCE) Through the (Works) of Law (forced compliance) but by a New CREATION of GOD, you have become the righteousness of the law , because God has written it (IN) your Hearts by the love of GOD being shed around in our hearts That was Tims point i believe. peace and love………………………………………….gene
Hi Gene,If it was, then he needs to take a course in English!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgGene: You are correct, thank you for both wisdom and kindness. Herein are the children of God and the children of evil recognized!
Those who need a law or commandment to follow have not the love of God in their heart. If they had the pure love of God, dwelling within, they could produce only the byproduct of that love. One born of God has the love of God to give out to others. A branch grafted into the tree of life partakes of the life force/love contained within. So are we who are grafted into the love of God through Jesus free of any laws or rules of obedience because they are not needed.
Anyone who understands love knows that love does not rule by might and power as does the material world. Anyone who understands love would recognize the lack of need for rules, laws and obedience. When a person believes he needs to obey he must find a law or rule or commanment to follow. The poor translations make refference to God and Jesus commanding us to love. Thay would be like a father commanding his little girl to sit on his lap, hug him and love him!!! That is servitude not love and it us usually fear based.
As we see and perceive the love of God poured out on us through Jesus and all the forgiveness and purification that is given our hearts will run over with that love and it will extend outwardly to our brothers and sisters who don't know or recognize the truth as yet.
Thank you God, for your wonderful gift through Jesus for all who will accept and believe. God blesses all, (that includes homosexuals). I, like Jesus, do not condemn anyone! IMO, TK
Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 30 2010,00:02) Those who need a law or commandment to follow have not the love of God in their heart. If they had the pure love of God, dwelling within, they could produce only the byproduct of that love. One born of God has the love of God to give out to others. A branch grafted into the tree of life partakes of the life force/love contained within. So are we who are grafted into the love of God through Jesus free of any laws or rules of obedience because they are not needed. Anyone who understands love knows that love does not rule by might and power as does the material world. Anyone who understands love would recognize the lack of need for rules, laws and obedience. When a person believes he needs to obey he must find a law or rule or commanment to follow. The poor translations make refference to God and Jesus commanding us to love. Thay would be like a father commanding his little girl to sit on his lap, hug him and love him!!! That is servitude not love and it us usually fear based.
As we see and perceive the love of God poured out on us through Jesus and all the forgiveness and purification that is given our hearts will run over with that love and it will extend outwardly to our brothers and sisters who don't know or recognize the truth as yet.
Thank you God, for your wonderful gift through Jesus for all who will accept and believe. God blesses all, (that includes homosexuals). I, like Jesus, do not condemn anyone! IMO, TK
Hi Tim,Quit saying we are free of free of any laws or rules! This is a big fat LIE!
Because it is not in the heart of criminals to be law abiding, laws are needed!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 30 2010,07:02) Those who need a law or commandment to follow have not the love of God in their heart. If they had the pure love of God, dwelling within, they could produce only the byproduct of that love. One born of God has the love of God to give out to others. A branch grafted into the tree of life partakes of the life force/love contained within. So are we who are grafted into the love of God through Jesus free of any laws or rules of obedience because they are not needed. Anyone who understands love knows that love does not rule by might and power as does the material world. Anyone who understands love would recognize the lack of need for rules, laws and obedience. When a person believes he needs to obey he must find a law or rule or commanment to follow. The poor translations make refference to God and Jesus commanding us to love. Thay would be like a father commanding his little girl to sit on his lap, hug him and love him!!! That is servitude not love and it us usually fear based.
As we see and perceive the love of God poured out on us through Jesus and all the forgiveness and purification that is given our hearts will run over with that love and it will extend outwardly to our brothers and sisters who don't know or recognize the truth as yet.
Thank you God, for your wonderful gift through Jesus for all who will accept and believe. God blesses all, (that includes homosexuals). I, like Jesus, do not condemn anyone! IMO, TK
TKwhat is LOVE, i mean God love, Christ Love, what is it ??
Pierre
Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 30 2010,00:02) Those who need a law or commandment to follow have not the love of God in their heart. If they had the pure love of God, dwelling within, they could produce only the byproduct of that love. One born of God has the love of God to give out to others. A branch grafted into the tree of life partakes of the life force/love contained within. So are we who are grafted into the love of God through Jesus free of any laws or rules of obedience because they are not needed. Anyone who understands love knows that love does not rule by might and power as does the material world. Anyone who understands love would recognize the lack of need for rules, laws and obedience. When a person believes he needs to obey he must find a law or rule or commanment to follow. The poor translations make refference to God and Jesus commanding us to love. Thay would be like a father commanding his little girl to sit on his lap, hug him and love him!!! That is servitude not love and it us usually fear based.
As we see and perceive the love of God poured out on us through Jesus and all the forgiveness and purification that is given our hearts will run over with that love and it will extend outwardly to our brothers and sisters who don't know or recognize the truth as yet.
Thank you God, for your wonderful gift through Jesus for all who will accept and believe. God blesses all, (that includes homosexuals). I, like Jesus, do not condemn anyone! IMO, TK
Hi Tim,Your forgetting something else Jesus said….
John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold,
thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2010,01:12) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 30 2010,07:02) Those who need a law or commandment to follow have not the love of God in their heart. If they had the pure love of God, dwelling within, they could produce only the byproduct of that love. One born of God has the love of God to give out to others. A branch grafted into the tree of life partakes of the life force/love contained within. So are we who are grafted into the love of God through Jesus free of any laws or rules of obedience because they are not needed. Anyone who understands love knows that love does not rule by might and power as does the material world. Anyone who understands love would recognize the lack of need for rules, laws and obedience. When a person believes he needs to obey he must find a law or rule or commanment to follow. The poor translations make refference to God and Jesus commanding us to love. Thay would be like a father commanding his little girl to sit on his lap, hug him and love him!!! That is servitude not love and it us usually fear based.
As we see and perceive the love of God poured out on us through Jesus and all the forgiveness and purification that is given our hearts will run over with that love and it will extend outwardly to our brothers and sisters who don't know or recognize the truth as yet.
Thank you God, for your wonderful gift through Jesus for all who will accept and believe. God blesses all, (that includes homosexuals). I, like Jesus, do not condemn anyone! IMO, TK
TKwhat is LOVE, i mean God love, Christ Love, what is it ??
Pierre
Pierre: Excellent question! I was trying to give a description of love which is not easy to do. The Bible gives us a description of the fruit produced by one that loves at Gal.5:22
the fruit of the spirit of God or love is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance, against such there is no law. So when bearing that fruit to others there is no law against.If one is filled with love and bearing love fruit there is no law, rules, orders, commands, do's,don'ts etc.
It seems to me the people that worry the most about rules and laws and obeying orders are the ones who don't understand their own purification from God. If God says you are perfect then there is no more argument about that subject. That is what you are!! Colossians 1:21
Knowing that is the truth, creates the love inside you and a peace and a joy that fills your soul, that came from God through his gift of Jesus.
There is only one will of God today and always, love!
When one accepts that love and fullness from God he is changed from a natural man to a Godly man in Christ. This man doesn't look for ways to kill, steal, and destroy. This man looks at all his brothers and sisters and sees their perfection as well as his own and treats them as perfect brothers and sisters in Christ.
No more judging what they do or don't do. No more condemning for what you might think is wrong or right. Loving yourself as God has loved you and holding nothing against yourself(self judgment) leaves pure love to spread to all.
Let those who believe in evil, believe in sin, believe in a future happening that must come someday for their salvation live in their own judgment.
This is the light of God come forth to expose evil, burn it away and leave the seed of God in the earth.
For the believers there is love and freedom unlimited in God through Jesus our lord. This is my opinion based on the truth I see in Jesus who paid it all. God bless those who believe, TK
Hi Tim,
There's no law AGAINST “DOING RIGHT”!
The Law is written for those who don't want to follow it!
That doesn't mean believers (is this what you're saying) can sin?Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,02:42) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 30 2010,00:02) Those who need a law or commandment to follow have not the love of God in their heart. If they had the pure love of God, dwelling within, they could produce only the byproduct of that love. One born of God has the love of God to give out to others. A branch grafted into the tree of life partakes of the life force/love contained within. So are we who are grafted into the love of God through Jesus free of any laws or rules of obedience because they are not needed. Anyone who understands love knows that love does not rule by might and power as does the material world. Anyone who understands love would recognize the lack of need for rules, laws and obedience. When a person believes he needs to obey he must find a law or rule or commanment to follow. The poor translations make refference to God and Jesus commanding us to love. Thay would be like a father commanding his little girl to sit on his lap, hug him and love him!!! That is servitude not love and it us usually fear based.
As we see and perceive the love of God poured out on us through Jesus and all the forgiveness and purification that is given our hearts will run over with that love and it will extend outwardly to our brothers and sisters who don't know or recognize the truth as yet.
Thank you God, for your wonderful gift through Jesus for all who will accept and believe. God blesses all, (that includes homosexuals). I, like Jesus, do not condemn anyone! IMO, TK
Hi Tim,Your forgetting something else Jesus said….
John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold,
thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed: You are a student of the Bible. Are you aware that the conjunctions in the new testament are placed at the descression of the translator. I believe Jesus said, ….go in sin no more….! I believe in the case of the adulteress woman,Jesus either broke the law by letting her go free, or he wasn't under the law, or she wasn't in sin any more than all the patriarchs of the old testament that had thousands of wives and mistresses, Or if she had actually sinned against God and there was no judgment against it, then it wasn't wrong to do! I could care less what choice you make.
Tell me this, John 9:3…the disciples asked Jesus, WHO DID SIN…this man or his parents that he was born blind…..Jesus answered,….neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents…..! Wow! I thought everybody sinned all the time even if they didn't know it?? TK
Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 30 2010,04:53) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,02:42) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 30 2010,00:02) Those who need a law or commandment to follow have not the love of God in their heart. If they had the pure love of God, dwelling within, they could produce only the byproduct of that love. One born of God has the love of God to give out to others. A branch grafted into the tree of life partakes of the life force/love contained within. So are we who are grafted into the love of God through Jesus free of any laws or rules of obedience because they are not needed. Anyone who understands love knows that love does not rule by might and power as does the material world. Anyone who understands love would recognize the lack of need for rules, laws and obedience. When a person believes he needs to obey he must find a law or rule or commanment to follow. The poor translations make refference to God and Jesus commanding us to love. Thay would be like a father commanding his little girl to sit on his lap, hug him and love him!!! That is servitude not love and it us usually fear based.
As we see and perceive the love of God poured out on us through Jesus and all the forgiveness and purification that is given our hearts will run over with that love and it will extend outwardly to our brothers and sisters who don't know or recognize the truth as yet.
Thank you God, for your wonderful gift through Jesus for all who will accept and believe. God blesses all, (that includes homosexuals). I, like Jesus, do not condemn anyone! IMO, TK
Hi Tim,Your forgetting something else Jesus said….
John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold,
thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed: You are a student of the Bible. Are you aware that the conjunctions in the new testament are placed at the descression of the translator. I believe Jesus said, ….go in sin no more….! I believe in the case of the adulteress woman,Jesus either broke the law by letting her go free, or he wasn't under the law, or she wasn't in sin any more than all the patriarchs of the old testament that had thousands of wives and mistresses, Or if she had actually sinned against God and there was no judgment against it, then it wasn't wrong to do! I could care less what choice you make.
Tell me this, John 9:3…the disciples asked Jesus, WHO DID SIN…this man or his parents that he was born blind…..Jesus answered,….neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents…..! Wow! I thought everybody sinned all the time even if they didn't know it?? TK
Hi Tim,Where was the man that commuted adultery with her? Should she die while he goes scott free?
God is a God of justice and mercy, Jesus died for her and told her to “sin no more”!Why would you say she did not (according to Tim) sin?
God doesn't change his mind, Tim; sin is sin!Tim, you only quoted part of the verse, leaving out the punch line.
John 9:3: Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents:
but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd: You left out the punch line!… NEITHER this man SINNED nor his parents……but… that the WORKS OF GOD should be made manifest in him, I must work the works of God! The works of God today are still healing the sick and raising those dead in their trespasses and sin by casting out darkness/deception from their minds so they can see the light of Jesus. TK
The law only stoned the women in adultery, not the men! (I'm not positive sure on that) The law of Moses said Thou shalt not commit adultery. It did not say to kill or stone anyone. God never said to stone someone for anything. Man wrote most if not all of the torah and made up laws and rules for thousands of years calling them commandments from God. There were many so called Gods back then yet only one true God most high.
Did Jesus break the law of Moses in this case? TK
Tim Kraft,
Jesus did not break the law of Moses by not inflicting the punishment of death on her. Rather he upheld it for in showing mercy and commanding her to change her ways he showed love to her and thus did as God does. Do you not understand the parable of the gardener who showed mercy to the fig tree, Luke 13:6-9?
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